New Owner (!) with a few questions!

julefish3

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Just became a member :) and am thinking of taking a trip on the RCI network in 2013. My husband and I were thinking Cabo (or someplace beachy with a 2 year old and possibly a newbown!). Any suggestions?

Also, we have a feb UY, and I would need to bank my points by this september. My question is ... if i bank them I can use them for RCI right away, right? I know I could use them for Disney if we go, but just wasn't sure if they can be used for RCI (in other words ... from bank to RCI as opposed to bank --> deposit in RCI --> RCI travel).

I just dont want to deposit htem into the RCI network in case we decide not to go RCI next year. B/c i know once deposit them in the RCI you cant take them back out, right?

Thanks
 
I suggest the following course of actions for selecting a Cabo destination:

a) Review DVC's list of approved RCI destinations.
Link: http://rci.com/dvc

b) Join the Timeshare User's Group (TUG) for $15/year to gain access to their resort review database.
Link: http://www.tug2.net/reviews.shtml

c) Spend plenty of time cross-referencing the RCI for DVC list of destinations against the TUG reviews.

Of those on the DVC/RCI list, I've only been to one, WorldMark Coral Baja (RCI #3872). I would consider the Worldmark property reasonably family-friendly and accommodating for your little one(s). It is a long way out of town but there is a bus stop w/in a short walk from the resort. The beach at this property is not considered swimmable -- but the pool is very nice. // UPDATED: The TUG reviews indicate there is a MegaStore within walking distance. Cool!

My question is ... if i bank them I can use them for RCI right away, right? I know I could use them for Disney if we go, but just wasn't sure if they can be used for RCI (in other words ... from bank to RCI as opposed to bank --> deposit in RCI --> RCI travel).
Sounds like you are on the right track. Bank them internally (from DVC Feb 2012 UY into DVC Feb 2013 UY) but do not bank them into RCI. Use DVC's "request first" process to explore RCI inventory through DVC Member Services over the phone. If you accept an exchange into an RCI destination the DVC points should all come from the same UY (be they native, banked or borrowed into that UY) as the intended travel.

Good luck!
 
OR .. for an entirely different approach, you might consider simply renting your Cabo vacation on cash. A few sites offering timeshare condo rentals:
Each of these are a 'business' on their own. You would be dealing with a trusted business -- not the individual timeshare owner. Easy, breezy, safe.

Example of rental currently offered on the SFX site:

Raintree's Club Regina Los Cabos
Location: Mexico / Cabo San Lucas
Check-In: 8/4/2012
Check-Out: 8/11/2012
Size: 1 BR
Occupancy: 4
$500/week (as "worst case" pricing; it is offered for even less if you have a paid membership to SFX)


If you have access to RCI directly (through a family member or friend, perhaps) you might want to flip through RCI's rental inventory as well. There is a sale running right now: $199/week for July/Aug/Sept inventory. There are 107 matching weeks in Cabo and another 18 in San Jose Del Cabo. Granted, this is a time-limited sale event but similar sales are fairly common for MX inventory.
 
I have never had good success trying to trade out DVC for RCI and get anything close to the value of my DVC points.

I would agree that need to join TUG. research and find which one you like best.

Then I would look to try and trade directly with someone who can get you what you want. Several ways of doing that:

if they are DVC members as well can transfer the agreed upon points to them.

If not then you can book their reservation at DVC for them using your points and they book your vacation using their time share.

Trust me it is much more likely that you are going to get a resort that you want to go to, that has similar value to Disney this way vs trying to go through Disney with RCI using the limited resorts they offer us.
 

Ok, so if i join TUG I will have access to the reviews of most of the places on the RCI network?

I am also considering Costa Rica. Any advice?
 
Ok, so if i join TUG I will have access to the reviews of most of the places on the RCI network?
Correct. It also contains reviews of properties participating in II, SFX and other exchange avenues.
I am also considering Costa Rica. Any advice?
We visited only briefly (cruise ship port) ... but had a lovely time watching wildlife from a rafting trip on the Corobici River. Folks who visited the Cloud Forest had warm reviews of their day as did those running zip lines.

FWIW, TUG reviews include 15 properties in Costa Rica. The three gaining highest ranking are listed below. Of the 15, five properties fell extremely low on guest scorecards.

#1 Hotel and Club de Playa el Parador (II code: HTL)
Costa Rica,Puntarenas
Score: 8.50 (1 input)

#2 Villas Sol Hotel and Beach Resort (RCI Code: 5398)
Costa Rica,Guanacaste,Playa Hermosa
Score: 8.25 (4 inputs)

#3 Condovac la Costa (RCI Code: 0131)
Costa Rica,Guanacaste
Score: 7.40 (5 inputs)
 
Looks like the #2 TUG ranked option in Costa Rica is on the DVC list. The resort seems to offer either Hotel units (no kitchen) or 2BR units (full kitchen, but also FULL cost DVC points!).

You might do well to rent the week through either friends or family with RCI rather than booking an exchange as the weekly rates are pretty reasonable compared to the dues on your DVC points plus exchange fee. Quick sample of current inventory pasted below.

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VILLAS SOL HOTEL AND BEACH RESORT (#5398)

Hotel	 4 (2)	 No Kitchen	 Sat 06-Oct-2012	 Sat 13-Oct-2012	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 314.99
Hotel	 4 (2)	 No Kitchen	 Sat 13-Oct-2012	 Sat 20-Oct-2012	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 314.99
Hotel	 4 (2)	 No Kitchen	 Sat 20-Oct-2012	 Sat 27-Oct-2012	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 314.99
Hotel	 4 (2)	 No Kitchen	 Sat 27-Oct-2012	 Sat 03-Nov-2012	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 314.99
Hotel	 4 (2)	 No Kitchen	 Sat 03-Nov-2012	 Sat 10-Nov-2012	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 314.99
Hotel	 4 (2)	 No Kitchen	 Sat 10-Nov-2012	 Sat 17-Nov-2012	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 314.99
Hotel	 4 (2)	 No Kitchen	 Sat 24-Nov-2012	 Sat 01-Dec-2012	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 314.99
Hotel	 4 (2)	 No Kitchen	 Sat 15-Dec-2012	 Sat 22-Dec-2012	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 422.99
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 18-May-2013	 Sat 25-May-2013	Exchange Fee
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 22-Jun-2013	 Sat 29-Jun-2013	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 485.99
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 03-Aug-2013	 Sat 10-Aug-2013	Exchange Fee
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 10-Aug-2013	 Sat 17-Aug-2013	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 638.99
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 17-Aug-2013	 Sat 24-Aug-2013	Exchange Fee
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 24-Aug-2013	 Sat 31-Aug-2013	Exchange Fee
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 31-Aug-2013	 Sat 07-Sep-2013	Exchange Fee
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 14-Sep-2013	 Sat 21-Sep-2013	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 485.99
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 21-Sep-2013	 Sat 28-Sep-2013	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 485.99
2 Bedrooms	 6 (4)	 Full	 Sat 28-Sep-2013	 Sat 05-Oct-2013	Exchange Fee -OR- USD 485.99
 
Just became a member :) and am thinking of taking a trip on the RCI network in 2013. My husband and I were thinking Cabo (or someplace beachy with a 2 year old and possibly a newbown!). Any suggestions?

Also, we have a feb UY, and I would need to bank my points by this september. My question is ... if i bank them I can use them for RCI right away, right? I know I could use them for Disney if we go, but just wasn't sure if they can be used for RCI (in other words ... from bank to RCI as opposed to bank --> deposit in RCI --> RCI travel).

I just dont want to deposit htem into the RCI network in case we decide not to go RCI next year. B/c i know once deposit them in the RCI you cant take them back out, right?

Thanks
If you have points that will expire, bank them. Otherwise, put in request first that way you only tie up your points if you match. All of the resorts on the DVC RCI list have promise. Just don't do the signature collection at 600-900 points for a week. There are some great and "cheap" options on RCI right now. If you know someone who owns RCI, you'd be a lot better off getting them to reserve for you rather than using DVC points.
 
Is there a site that focuses on trading between timeshare companies (i.e. RCI and DVC)?

Or do you have to know an RCI owner to trade with to maximize the value of your points?
 
Is there a site that focuses on trading between timeshare companies (i.e. RCI and DVC)?

Or do you have to know an RCI owner to trade with to maximize the value of your points?
Several including TUG.net (timeshare users group) and Timeshare Forums.
 
Several including TUG.net (timeshare users group) and Timeshare Forums.

Thanks.
I did a quick read through those sites. They don't really mention DVC. Would I have to transfer my DVC points into something else (i.e. RCI) before using the exchange system? Or does DVC points assimilate easily into the exchange process? I also tried looking up the SFX exchange site that was recommended by many, but they do not mention DVC either.
 
Thanks.
I did a quick read through those sites. They don't really mention DVC. Would I have to transfer my DVC points into something else (i.e. RCI) before using the exchange system? Or does DVC points assimilate easily into the exchange process? I also tried looking up the SFX exchange site that was recommended by many, but they do not mention DVC either.
It'll take far longer to discern such info than a quick read because there really isn't that much activity on trading out of DVC. When I get more time I'll try to give you an overview of the system or you an just email me directly.
 
Thank you so much for this information. Unfortunately, I don't have any family members on the RCI system. Are you saying that I would buy (using cash) a week from someone who is already a member of RCI. And then I wouldn;t be using my points? I understand that it might be cheaper, but if I have to use my points - or else lose them - shouldn't I just use the DVC points that I have?
 
Thanks.
I did a quick read through those sites. They don't really mention DVC. Would I have to transfer my DVC points into something else (i.e. RCI) before using the exchange system? Or does DVC points assimilate easily into the exchange process? I also tried looking up the SFX exchange site that was recommended by many, but they do not mention DVC either.
TUG has an entire forum dedicated to DVC discussions: http://tugbbs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=54

Granted, there isn't much conversation specific to DVC/RCI exchanges so you might want to break the topic into multiple understandings and research each separately.
  • The relationship between your timeshare product and its designated exchange company. In this case, Disboards is likely a great space for discussing the mechanics and strategies of DVC/RCI .
  • Destination Reviews. I thinking TUG's database of resort reviews is essential.
  • Strategies of timeshare ownership. Use TUG or similar boards to gain tips and tricks of general timeshare ownership. While DVC may not offer as many strategies as most other timeshare products -- "request first" is a powerful and somewhat unique tool. (Not many timeshare products offer "request first" to their owners.)
As for SFX, have you tried visiting their site? You can apply online for membership (free 90-day trial membership at Platinum level, later downgraded to free Gold level). If approved, the membership would be handy for booking discounted rental weeks. (It may work for exchange as well, but I'd personally be uncomfortable with the possible liability issues.)
 
Thank you so much for this information. Unfortunately, I don't have any family members on the RCI system. Are you saying that I would buy (using cash) a week from someone who is already a member of RCI. And then I wouldn;t be using my points?
Right, that it what both Dean and I were suggesting. Outside of RCI, you could also book rental weeks through SFX and the other sites mentioned above.

I understand that it might be cheaper, but if I have to use my points - or else lose them - shouldn't I just use the DVC points that I have?
Of course you don't want to lose your DVC points. But don't be quick to throw them at the first vacation that comes along. Take time to plan out the next two years of intended travels and the best ways to fund each of those trips.

There are many strategies for any given trip: booking directly, booking via exchange company, booking via direct exchange, booking via exchange company rental program, booking via priceline, booking via travel company, etc. Booking the trip can consume nearly as many hours as the trip itself! :lmao:

Personally, I'm pretty quickly convinced that I'd be better off booking MX on cash rather than using any of my pricey timeshares via exchange. Similarly, I'm certain to find situations where using my DVC points makes more sense than other booking methods. With a little practice, it all balances out.
 
Thanks.
I did a quick read through those sites. They don't really mention DVC. Would I have to transfer my DVC points into something else (i.e. RCI) before using the exchange system? Or does DVC points assimilate easily into the exchange process? I also tried looking up the SFX exchange site that was recommended by many, but they do not mention DVC either.
I'll try to give you a fairly brief summary of the way DVC works with RCI and similar entities.

DVC members have 2 options when exchanging with RCI. One is request 1st and the other is deposit 1st. In general you want to do request 1st whenever possible because this does not commit your points. However, if one wants to extend the life of certain points, deposit first can be a good option. As a rule, it takes 160 points for aone-bedroom and 270 for a two-bedroom. At current value, that is somewhere in the $1750-$3000 range. If one only use maintenance fees and a prorated purchase cost, the price is still in the $1000 range to $1500 range or more.

One has to then look at how they could secure the same or similar options by other means. Cash and other timeshare options are very workable possibilities. In general, for routine trading, owning DVC for those trips and another timeshare for other trips is often the best choice. Obviously there are many variables that one needs to consider. If one already owns DVC and has plenty of points, the scenarios of appropriateness changes significantly. Even then, renting out the extra points is often the better choice. One needs to investigate the options when you start to look at non-DVC options. You need to look at potential cost as well as availability and quality. To a degree, you need to do that even if you're considering an exchange through RCI. Don't forget to think about risks and negatives.

The basic nuts and bolts of trading DVC for RCI goes like this in my opinion. One needs to look at the potential exchange options make a judgment as to acceptability including unit size. Personally, I would also look at other methods of securing the same reservation. Once you've made a decision to proceed with an exchange using DVC, you contact DVC and put in ongoing request or if applicable, do a deposit 1st. You would then pay the exchange fee which is “nonrefundable” however, they will refund the fee is you cancel without a match or you never match. Once they have a match, you have very little change or cancellation options.

In addition to RCI, there are some other exchange options. These include the Buena Vista trading company, concierge collection, Disney collection and adventures by Disney. The latter 3 are cash type options where they take your points and convert to cash. From a dollar standpoint they are basically never going to be an appropriate value. The former is a direct timeshare exchange option and it can be workable if they have what you want.

A lot of information I know I certainly could go on and on, I'll stop here and let you ask any additional questions that may be helpful to you.
 
Thank you so much for this information. Unfortunately, I don't have any family members on the RCI system. Are you saying that I would buy (using cash) a week from someone who is already a member of RCI. And then I wouldn;t be using my points? I understand that it might be cheaper, but if I have to use my points - or else lose them - shouldn't I just use the DVC points that I have?
I think there are lots of options. One is to do a rental from an owner but you also read from a website that rents weeks both timeshare and otherwise. What I would not do it actually rent an exchange from a stranger. one can also do an exchange to an independent company such as San Francisco exchange, trading places international, trading places Maui, Hawaii timeshare exchange, dial an exchange or platinum interchange. one would have to investigate how these worked with DVC.
 
This is SO helpful! Thank you for explaining everything is such great detail. I think the first thing I should do is join TUG. Then I can look at the places and see the reviews. Once I determine that I want to go on RCI then I will investigate the best/ most cost effective way to get there using your techinque.

Thank you !!!
 
This is SO helpful! Thank you for explaining everything is such great detail. I think the first thing I should do is join TUG. Then I can look at the places and see the reviews. Once I determine that I want to go on RCI then I will investigate the best/ most cost effective way to get there using your techinque.

Thank you !!!
You're welcome. Anytime I decide I want to go somewhere I decide what my options are and what I'm willing to commit. Then I employ all workable options which might include a direct booking with DVC, Marriott or Bluegreen, RCI, II, several of the independent's, rental and direct exchange. I'm always planning at least 1-2 years out, already have next summer booked for HH with six 2 BR units on the beach.
 





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