Need advice on a really tough situation at work... (complex)

Narnian_Princess

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For the past year and a half, I've worked for a very small company (we are a martial arts dojo with an afterschool program). Very small, as in we only have 5 employees including the boss. I'm changing the names of the people in this tale.

The backstory: Mr. Smith and his soon-to-be-ex wife Mrs. Smith have owned this facility for nearly 4 years. My friend Brian (16) has worked there since the beginning, I (18) came along nearly 3-1/2 years ago (only on staff for 1-1/2), and Katie (14) has worked there since this past summer. I am very good friends with Mrs. Smith and Brian, but not so much with Mr. Smith or Katie. I am friends with them, just not good friends. Well, Mr. Smith and Mrs. Smith are divorcing, and Brian (Mrs. Smith's best friend) has sided with Mrs. Smith through this whole thing. (Long, bad, complicated; you don't wanna know.) Of course, I try not to take sides, but Mr. Smith did Mrs. Smith very wrong in a lot of ways, so I am leaning toward Mrs. Smith's side behind the scenes. Mr. Smith has also had many problems with Brian's mother.

The problem: Everyone works Mon-Fri (well, I don't work Fridays). I found out today that Mrs. Smith is working only Tuesdays and Thursdays; she would have been fired except that Mr. Smith knew if he fired her that Brian and I would leave as well. So he cut her hours, as well as cutting Brian's hours to only Tuesdays and Thursdays.
As if that wasn't bad enough... he calls me for a meeting and asks me, "Do you like working here?"
I love it, so of course I say, "Yes."
"I have a proposal to make. It will increase your hours, and also increase your responsibilities greatly."
I say, "Okay."
He says, "I want to let Brian go, completely. And I want you to take his place."
My jaw just dropped. I didn't know what to say. I don't even remember much of what was said after that; I was just so shocked. And not in a good way.

Does this sound like a strictly business decision? In a way it does (Mr. Smith said, "I can't afford him.") but in a way it doesn't (all the relationship-related problems). This would be a wonderful opportunity for me, but if Brian is fired, he's most likely not coming back, then Mrs. Smith will leave, and there go my friends. Also, I can't side with Brian and Mrs. Smith, because I'm testing for my black belt in a few months and Mr. Smith has unfairly failed at least one other student on his black belt exam before for much less than this. I don't want to get on his bad side and potentially fail; this black belt means too much to me. What should I do? We have to have another meeting to discuss details, and I'm not supposed to discuss it with anyone yet.

But I knew that if anyone would know what to do, it would be you DISers. :)
 
First off: If they both own the company how could he fire his soon to be ex? (I know it has nothing to do with what you asked but i'm curios)

Second: If he has already unfairly failed a student and you are worried he will do the same to you, you need to find a new instructor and report him.

I would also be looking for a new job. When spouses difforce and they own a company it can get really ugly, I left my job I had in High school for this reason.
 
As soon as the lawyers get a hold of this, Mrs Smith will be 1/2 owner, and have 1/2 of the say.....or they will be forced to sell and split the money, honestly run for your life ! It will get uglier and uglier!
 
Bottom line....Find a new job. You will be next. :scared: Mr. Smith will want everyone gone who is associated with his wife.
Also how can he fire the wife if she is an owner? :confused3 Something not right there.
Get out while you can!:eek:

Or take the hours, feel like crap, then take your test and look for another job.:thumbsup2

Either way it is probably in the cards for you to look for another job.
 

I'd bail while the bailing was good. Sounds like a complicated mess, and people that I wouldn't want to work for.
 
Yes, it will get uglier. My sister's dojo closed shop because of marital problems between the owners.

Find another job. :thumbsup2
 
I'm wondering just how old Mr. and Mrs. Smith are? You said that your friend Brian is Mrs. Smith's best friend, and that he is only 16. It seems strange to me that an adult old enough to be married and own a business would be "best friends" with a teenager. Or was your comment just in the context of the dojo, where he is her best friend there?
 
Hokay, here goes. Mrs. put up the money for the facility, but since it was Mr.'s dream of owning a martial arts school, it's in his name. (They never expected to split up.)

They are generally very nice people. Mrs. is so sweet; I love her to pieces. She's like my big sister and I confide in her the things that moms don't need to know. (Before you go crazy on me, I tell my mom virtually everything. ;))

Mr. is very arrogant and self-important, but not in a smash-in-your-face way. You only see it if you know him well. And he has failed a student on black belt exam (well, it was a pre-test when only he had any say) unfairly once, but out of a dozen, that's not all that bad... plus if we get past the pretests we are judged by a board and majority wins on the decision. It's the pretests I'm worried about. :rolleyes:

I would just quit, but I've been working for over 3 years to get to this belt level. If I go to another school, I'd have to start all over again, and that just isn't an option for me right now.

Or take the hours, feel like crap, then take your test and look for another job.:thumbsup2

I've seriously considered this, actually.
 
I'm wondering just how old Mr. and Mrs. Smith are? You said that your friend Brian is Mrs. Smith's best friend, and that he is only 16. It seems strange to me that an adult old enough to be married and own a business would be "best friends" with a teenager. Or was your comment just in the context of the dojo, where he is her best friend there?

Mr. is 37 (I think), and Mrs. is 25. Brian is maybe Mrs. Smith's second- or third-best friend in the entire world. I'm right under him. She's really sweet. :) She loves all the kids in the dojo and they all love her.
 
Find another job, and another martial arts instructor.
This is not an upstanding man you are dealing with here.

You will be MUCH better off somewhere else. You are young, there will be MANY more job opportunities out there. Not everyone runs their businesses like this person.
 
Mr. is 37, and Mrs. is 24. Brian is maybe Mrs. Smith's second- or third-best friend in the entire world. I'm right under him. She's really sweet. :) She loves all the kids in the dojo and they all love her.

I hope all of this works out for you all! :grouphug:

Please don't think I was being critical of Mrs. S - just trying to get my head around your situation!

I would probably take the advice given above...it looks like you need to find a new dojo and a new job. I don't know how many karate studios are near you, but I would think that they could "credit" you with the belts you have earned (DS takes karate but I don't completely understand all of the ins and outs of belt promotions and how the various karate programs relate to one another). If you want to wait it out and get your BB at your current dojo, maybe you could tell Mr. S that you have several committments right now and just couldn't take on the responsibility of Brian's position.
 
Mrs. put up the money for the facility, but since it was Mr.'s dream of owning a martial arts school, it's in his name. (They never expected to split up.)

Anything acquired during a marriage (except for inheritances, I believe) are marital property, regardless of who paid and whose name it's in. Debt, on the other hand, belongs to the person whose name it's in - although, I do believe there are a few states where debt is shared equally regardless of the name on it.

Kimya
 
Florida is not a Community Property state -

but in general if they have both been working at the place of business on a consistent basis --- they will be considered joint owners.

It doesn't matter however. NEVER get involved in the personal divorce problems of you boss. NEVER. As much as you might think you know about these people and who is nice and who did what, you don't know. You don't know what has gone on in private, you don't know their financial affairs, or any of their personal business. It is not your business to know any of this and it is not your place as an employee to take sides.

I agree, go find another job.
 
I didn't know there were states that are still not community property! I still think any decent lawyer is going to push for sale and split of the profits.
I still think you should run, but if you stay resign the day after you test, and absolutely refuse to pick a side.
 


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