I said I would post a picture of my new lift in the van and here it is. I am sitting on the Whill EV that I borrowed for a day. I currently have a budget ($600) ECV that I have used for almost 2 years. It's been great at Disney, but as my disability has progressed I wanted something that I could use other than just on smooth sidewalks. My Drive ECV has no suspension and small tires but it only weights 95 pounds. My DH was lifting in and out of our older van (12 years old). I hated asking him to do that so sometimes did not use the scooter even when I really needed it. After a year of looking we bought a new Honda Odyssey and had the Bruno Joey lift installed. I did not want to install a lift in a van that old - plus we got a $1000 rebate from Honda since we bought a new vehicle. My DH went on a vacation to West Texas with his brother and was gone for two weeks. I was able to go out on my own because I had the lift. I made multiple trips to the grocery store, lunch with friends, etc. I'll admit that it is much easier when I have my DH to deliver the ECV to me as I exit the van - but I have learned how to safely do it on my own (with the help of a small fold-able walker to get to the back of the van). My DH and I split time between New Orleans and Central Arkansas. New Orleans sidewalks are horrid. My scooter cannot handle them. I have not been in my backyard in Arkansas for two years as my current scooter will not travel on the grass. So I have been looking to upgrade. I found the Whill Ci EV (electric vehicle) that has been out for a few months. It looks more like a wheelchair, but is not rated as a wheelchair by the FDA. They do make a wheelchair the Whill Model M. The name Whill comes from "wheel" and the "will" do be mobile and active. I am in love with the Whill Ci. I borrowed one for a day. It was SO easy to drive. I'd heard that power wheelchairs with a joystick were hard to master. This has a button that is more like a rolling mouseball. It was so easy to navigate. It literally took me about two minutes to master it. I took it on a tour of the French Quarter in New Orleans which has been unavailable to me for two years. I could go over anything the sidewalks thru at me. It weights about 115 pounds - a little more than my current scooter at 95 pounds. It comes apart in 3 pieces which means that if I do travel by air with it we could rent a regular van - I would not have to rent a van with a lift and pay a fortune per day.