Mom, Dad, scooters and AKL

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My parents have graciously offered to take us to WDW for a long weekend. This is their first trip since they have become less mobile and they will require scooters. My Dad wants to stay at AKL. I assume he will have to book a handicapped accessible room in order to fit the two scooters. However, we are new to the scooter lifestyle at Disney. From whom do we order scooters? I know there are private vendors for rentals. Does WDW have a scooter rental concession of its own? Since AKL is far from several theme parks, how is bus transportation with a scooter? If you can offer us any hints on how to make this vacation as smooth and magical for them as possible, I would be very grateful.
Thanks.
 
1. A standard room will actually have more space for two ECVs than an accessible room. This is due to the bathroom in an accessible room being larger than in a standard room, which means space is taken from the rest of the room.

2. If you click on where it says "disABILTIES" at the top of this page it will take you to the Index. One of the top items is the "disABILTIES FAQ" which will gives lots of useful information, including in Post #2 where people rent ECVs.

Or, if you want an easier route to the FAQs, click on the link in my signature.
 
Thank you very much. That answered a lot of my questions. However, I am still unclear on one thing. If Mom and Dad both have ECVs, can they board the same bus? I know AKL is far away from some of the parks; is it going to be too difficult to take the bus everywhere with ECVs? Would it be easier to stay on the monorail? Should we rent a car and drive to MK with the ECVs? The list of rental cars that could accommodate an ECV was very useful; is there a vehicle that can accommodate two ECVs? For people like my parents who are arthritic and can't walk long distances, are ECVs the ideal or would electric wheelchairs be easier to maneuver? Once again, many thanks.
 
DH and I both used ECV's on our most recent trip to WDW. There was always room for both scooters on the same bus. If there isn't enough room, just wait for the next bus. Yes, the monorail is much easier to deal with -- no parallel parking -- but the buses are do-able. Have fun!
 

Thank you very much. That answered a lot of my questions. However, I am still unclear on one thing. If Mom and Dad both have ECVs, can they board the same bus? I know AKL is far away from some of the parks; is it going to be too difficult to take the bus everywhere with ECVs?

Too is something that is very personal. Some people will have a rant whenever they don't get on a bus within 5 minutes, other are happy enough to wait longer. With 2 ECV's you are complicating it a bit as in needing 2 available tie down spots on the bus. Most busses still only have 2 spots (allthough more busses with 3 or even 4 spots are popping up), so you can see the next thing coming; risk of there only being one spot available. It's a realistic risk, made higher if travelling at high peak times of the day, factored in with time of year etc. etc. Also at AKL you are the 2nd stop as the bus loads at AKV Kidani first and then pulls upto AKL. So; some risk of somebody being already on the bus.

Easiest in those cases; one takes the spot available and the other waits for another bus. This is a better odd than not taking the one spot and continue waiting for 2 available spots. Meet up again before entering the park. Either use phones to keep in contact or agree up front about meeting spots when needing to split up.

In 2009 -sjeez, time goes by fast!- I did a 8-nighter at AKL with a friend of mine. She's a manual chair user, I'm a powerchair user. My next door neighbour happened to be an older man using an ECV. We somehow happened to have the same timing during that week. He was the biggest reason if we had to split up, basically. ;) Having said that, we travelled during low attendance (late sept) and not at peak travel moments. Think we had about an 80% rate that we could get on the same bus and back then no 3spot-bus to be spotted yet. Maybe once where splitting up would result in the 2nd traveller not getting onto the next bus to that destination because of all it's spots being used already. Meeting up was easily enough, no biggie.

Just something you keep in mind when travelling with 2 mobility aids, IMHO.

Another option to consider; renting one ECV ofsite and one in the parks. Downside; needing to be in the park before all ECV's are rented out, which can be a pain in peaktimes. Perk; only one ECV and thus only one tie down spot needed. Parents can alternate between using the ECV for the distance to the rental. If having a room close to the lobby, the busstop is really close at AKL.

Would it be easier to stay on the monorail? Should we rent a car and drive to MK with the ECVs?

To each their own taste and opinion, but IMHO it is not a must to fork over a lot more $$ just for the monorail. Even more so now that the operating hours are so poorly. Sure, it's easier to get onto and can transportate more mobility aids, but only to 2 parks. It will still leave you with busses for the rest. And unless staying at Poly and walking to the TTC, going to Epcot requires a transfer which reduces the ease.

Location of resorts that make much more impact IMHO is staying at one of the resorts that are within walking distance from Epcot and DHS, like the YC, BC, BW etc. Walking/riding over to both parks would eliminate bus to those two. Not worth the $$ when not spending a lot of time in those parks though, IMHO.

Rent a car? Again, to each their taste but IMHO not a must to spent all the $$ just because of needing a mobility aid. If you want a guaranteed being back at the room within 20 minutes after leaving a park no matter what; sure. But if not being too unreasonable with expectations the busses aren't that bad.

For people like my parents who are arthritic and can't walk long distances, are ECVs the ideal or would electric wheelchairs be easier to maneuver? Once again, many thanks.

I would doubt you being able to find a renter that would be OK with renting out a powerchair to either of your parents if they are not regular powerchair users at home. Operating a powerchair is straining and a lot more difficult than operating an ECV. ECV's can be nerve wrecking enough for the elderly, using a powerchair in a situation like WDW with the crowds and narrow areas when not used to using such an aid would be hellish for most probably, let alone when being elderly. This results in one last thing; if not already done, have them try out using an ECV at home. This way either they get familiar with the basics of operating one (each will have their own caracter, but still) and get some usage under the belt before having to go out into big crowds and operating narrow spaces. This will leave room in case one isn't safe or doesn't feel safe/confident enough to operate one to get to a plan B (which would most likely be wheelchair or rollator usage).

Same goes for you if there is any risk of you having to be the one to navigate the ECV's onto the bus. With 2 of them, at least one will have to be tied down in a lesser easily navigated spot. At best the spot in front of the spot right across the back door, in the worst situation; the spot right in front of the back door on the side of the back door. This can take quite some navigating. A breeze when used to it, but can become a sweat-devil if not used and having gotten into a wrotten space -read; more difficult to get out, now being nervous and wanting to hurry resulting more quickly in flustered moving-. Many elderly need some assistance from their loved ones getting the ECV onto the bus. So; you'ld better also practice using it and if need be; parallel parking. ;)
 
As a pp said every singer bus disney owns can take two ecv/wheelchairs their are ones that can take three and few that can take four. Disney and their drivers try very hard to get guest to their destinations safely and quickly but sometime you may have to wait. If the bus can't take your parents or both the driver will call dispatch and they wil send you another bus so you don't have to wait longer something most other public bus companys won't do. Disney has well over 300 buses which make them the third largest bus fleet in Florida behind Miami and jacksonville saw it on tweeter so not sure how true but it does sound like it could be. Plus they have over 1300 drivers working 7 days a week and 365 days a year 24/7. Most of te drivErs are very nice and friendly but their are a very few bad apples just like in any company or department. Akl is a very nice resort I think the Veiw or the animals will make it worth it for the buses but that me. Ifyou want another great resort which is my favorite is boardwalk inn because their you could walk to Epcot and Dhs and the bus to mk that bad. The only problem is they share and bus to dtd and ak with the rest of the Epcot resorts. The mk bus only share with Swan and dolphin. Plus you could take the monorail from Epcot to mk then take the bus back because the board walk is the first stop. Okay sorry don't want to make it sound like akl is not nice it is very nice and easy to get to because they only share with their sister resort the villa part.



Their also testing which will be ending soon a new bigger bus so they are trying to improve their system with getting bigger buses that can handle alot more guest. But not sure if it will be put in service I think their would have to be to many changes made to bus stops and other areas to see the benefits of the more expensive buses.
 
Thanks so much, everyone. I am second-guessing AKL because of the bus situation. However, since Mom and Dad don't have a lot of energy, they were thinking that they might like to stay at the resort one day and just watch the animals from the balcony. I expect that we would spend most of our time at MK which makes me wonder if we shouldn't go for the Poly or the Contemporary. Could my folks scooter directly into MK from the Contemporary? Our plan was to schedule this for a few days before Memorial Day weekend which is also their wedding anniversary.
 
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Thanks so much, everyone. I am second-guessing AKL because of the bus situation. However, since Mom and Dad don't have a lot of energy, they were thinking that they might like to stay at the resort one day and just watch the animals from the balcony. I expect that we would spend most of our time at MK which makes me wonder if we shouldn't go for the Poly or the Contemporary. Could my folks scooter directly into MK from the Contemporary? Our plan was to schedule this for a few days before Memorial Day weekend which is also their wedding anniversary.

Yes their a nice walking path from contempory to mk which most of e time gets you their fast then the monorail and back to cr faster. The funny thing is their a walking path from the ttc to poly and grand Floridian but non to mk and contempory from those resorts all they née to do is make a path and all the those resorts can be accessed on foot.
 
Thanks so much, everyone. I am second-guessing AKL because of the bus situation. However, since Mom and Dad don't have a lot of energy, they were thinking that they might like to stay at the resort one day and just watch the animals from the balcony. I expect that we would spend most of our time at MK which makes me wonder if we shouldn't go for the Poly or the Contemporary. Could my folks scooter directly into MK from the Contemporary? Our plan was to schedule this for a few days before Memorial Day weekend which is also their wedding anniversary.


Honestly; I'ld have them pick the resort and stick with that. In this case AKL. Because of the reasons you already stated (spending relatively much time at the resort) and it being their first trip. The bus doesn't outweigh the pros of staying at a resort you love.

I spent loads of time at the resort -well, ok, mostly room ;) - when at WDW, easily 20 hours or more a day and totally depend upon disney transportation to get around onsite. Done all kinds of resort, from moderate to DVC, from AKL to YC and anything in between. And honestly; staying at a resort you feel comfortable at and love spending down time at is at least as important as transport. To be honest? Last year I found I kinda ehm..... am not the YC type of gal. Only had 5 days there and that was more than enough. Loved the closeness to Epcot and DHS and used it to an optimum but the not quite feeling at ease wasn't outweight by that. The 11 days after, had no problem at all bussing from SSR where I did feel at home very much so.

Also keep in mind that boards like the DIS paint a weird picture sometimes. Fusses can be made about the littlest things and reading 6 posts about "how far away" a resort is, can easily intimidate. In practice you might very well find it not to be that bad. I actually had not problem what so ever with transportation from AKL. Didn't feel 'long' at all. Obviously AK is crazily close but the rest of the parks weren't like "out there". Huge benefit of AKL I found is that you go directly from AKL to whatever park, instead of at most other resorts where you have multiple stops at the resort or resorts sharing busses which tags on time. On average, I can't say we spent that much more time in transport than on other stays (CBR, SSR, YC).
 
Since your parents are paying and have chosen the resort they want, I'd stick with AKL. It's a beautiful relaxing resort and even has activities right there if you never wanted to visit a park. Also it's a lot less costly than the Poly or Contemporary ( the garden wings are less ) and the savings could be used to have a special meal or experience while you're there. I think their idea to enjoy the resort is a good one, especially since it's their anniversary trip and this would be some private, relaxing time together. Just my opinion though, but AKL is not an inconvenient location and the busses do seem to come quickly.
 
Honestly, my folks chose AKL based on my recommendation. It is one of my favorites and I waxed poetic about how much fun it is to watch the animals. However, whenever I've been there, I've had a rental car. I want to be very sure that they don't wind up some place where they feel isolated or like the bus situation is so daunting that they don't want to leave the resort. They have used scooters twice on cruise ships so far, so they are not entirely newbies, but they are not old pros at it either. I know my dad has always wanted to stay at the Poly. My sister is coming and she has always wanted to stay at the Contemporary. My mom and son really haven't expressed a preference. I'm willing to do whatever everyone else wants.
 
You asked about rental cars holding 2 ecv's.
I can say a toyota hylander can hold 2 ecvs, with them being taken apart.

You have to learn how to take the ecv's apart. Be able to lift the components, and re-assemble. If for some reason the first time you go out with them and take them apart is in the evening, practice in your hotel room first, so you don't add poor lighting into the situation. Around somewhere are basic instructions on taking them apart. They could be in the sticky.
Or just practice in the room, so when your out things go more smoothly.

We rented because we went over to sea world one day, and like to have a car to do grocery store runs, and dtd we like a car.

Buses, just be patient. If there is only 1 space, load 1 person, then have the other get on the next bus in the event that the next bus only has one spot open.

I would stay at AKL, its a great resort. definitely rent the ecv offsite so you can use the scooter at akl. The resort has long hallways, so the ecv will be helpful, if just getting from your room, to the food court or the pool. Its a great resort because of the animals. Taking it easy, if park time can be to taxing, just chilling on the balcony looking at the animals, or watching them from the observation areas.

Have your parents practice parallel parking before they get on the bus. Have them practice driving around the resort. Practice putting your scooter in reverse, etc. Make sure to note that the scooter has adjustable speed knob. It has a rabbit and turtle on the dial. Of course rabbit for fast, turtle for slow. Basically, if your in crowded areas, going thru queus for rides, in stores, turn your speed down. If your in an open area, no one is around, turn your speed up if you want.
 
Thanks. I spoke to my parents yesterday and the whole trip has changed. They no longer want to go to WDW for their anniversary. They are switching to an autumn trip, so it won't be so hot. Dad has decided that the Poly is the way to go because of the access to two monorails. I think maybe we will just have dinner at AKL one night so they can at least see the resort.
 

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