Medicaid or state sponsored health insurance?

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I made up a new name because the last thread I read about this was NASTY!

Here is our situation. We recently became pregnant and my health insurance does not kick in for 90 days. My cobra from my previous job is more than half of my current monthly paycheck so that is out. We did not plan on becoming pregnant at all. In all honesty we tried and tried and tried to no avail for more than 2 years. We temped and charted and used ovulation monitors. I had test upon test at the doctors to ultimately find out they had no idea why it wasn't working. We made all of our decisions around "when we have kids." Now that we have stopped that it finally happened.

Our state has a pre-application that you can fill out and it shows you what you may qualify for. We "may" qualify for "low or no cost health insurance." We're hoping just for some coverage for me until my health insurance kicks in.

Has anyone ever used this assistance? Any advice you can offer. I applied and now we're waiting to see if we qualify. What is the application process like? They say I might have to be interviewed, which is fine except for taking time off work.

And please, if your suggestion is to suck it up and just pay the doctor and hospital bills until insurance kicks in, please do not respond. Financially, that is not an option. I'm not looking for advice on whether I should use the assistance if I qualify, just advice about state health insurance.
 
How far along are you? I don't want to say "suck it up" but it might be financially better TO pay for a visit or two vs insurance if you don't qualify for the low cost or free coverage. Early on in a pregnancy there really isn't that much for medical care so the cost is usually pretty reasonable.

If you want to look into some temp coverage and don't get the state plan, most major insurance carriers will have gap plans but they generally only cover NEW things so it wouldn't cover your pregnancy but if you had to go to the urgent care for a sinus infection or something like that it would be covered.

The biggest issue you will find is if the state plan has a preexisting condition clause or has a clause for covering pregnancy-often there is an 18 month wait with some plans.

Have you already rejected your COBRA? When was your last day of coverage with your previous job? COBRA is set up to cover gaps like this and you really have almost 90 days before you have to PAY for COBRA so you could elect the coverage to have it in place IN CASE something major happens and if you don't need it cancel and not pay anything-it is designed to do this so it isn't illegal or cheating the system.
 
I work for social services in my state. The way I look at it is, if you qualify for the services then you are entitled to receive them. Medicaid and Food Stamps are entitlement programs. If you meet the criteria, then its yours. In our state an interview is not required for Medicaid. You just submit yout application with your proof of income and citizenship/alien status and you will hear from us within 45 days. Medicaid starts on the 1st of the month that you apply and you can request retroactive coverage if you incurred medical bills in the 3 months previous to your application. I understand that public assistance is a last resort to many people. It can kill you pride or make you feel your worst. I tell my clients to think about all the taxes you have paid in the past and consider this your refund. The services are there for the people that meet the criteria and request the assistance so USE IT!

Side note--- I got pregnant at 18 and I was not eligilble for Medicaid bc of my parents income, but my son was and he had it up until he was about 2.
 
Anyone can fall upon hard times, there is no shame for asking for help if you qualify for the assistant take it. It is far better to apply and use medicaid than put off going to see a Dr until you can afford it or your insurance kicks in , why put your health and the health of that beautiful baby at risk if you do not need to.

I would make an appointment and pay OOP while you await the decision on the medicaid also as pp said they will go back and pay past monies if you are approved but not sure if any Dr nowadays will wait and bill you or not, most want their money upfront it seems.

Best of luck to you
 

I made up a new name because the last thread I read about this was NASTY!

Here is our situation. We recently became pregnant and my health insurance does not kick in for 90 days. My cobra from my previous job is more than half of my current monthly paycheck so that is out. We did not plan on becoming pregnant at all. In all honesty we tried and tried and tried to no avail for more than 2 years. We temped and charted and used ovulation monitors. I had test upon test at the doctors to ultimately find out they had no idea why it wasn't working. We made all of our decisions around "when we have kids." Now that we have stopped that it finally happened.

Our state has a pre-application that you can fill out and it shows you what you may qualify for. We "may" qualify for "low or no cost health insurance." We're hoping just for some coverage for me until my health insurance kicks in.

Has anyone ever used this assistance? Any advice you can offer. I applied and now we're waiting to see if we qualify. What is the application process like? They say I might have to be interviewed, which is fine except for taking time off work.

And please, if your suggestion is to suck it up and just pay the doctor and hospital bills until insurance kicks in, please do not respond. Financially, that is not an option. I'm not looking for advice on whether I should use the assistance if I qualify, just advice about state health insurance.

My first concerns would be finding an obstetrician that accepts Medicaid, many do not. Secondly, if you are not accepted into Medicaid, then you have gone without insurance and given up your COBRA and that may leave you without future coverage for the rest of the pregnancy or for the baby. I would research that. COBRA costs a lot but it may be the best alternative in the long run.
 
This happened to us with our second child. I was just as concerned about seeing the doctor right away due to a previous miscarriage, and a complicated pregnancy.
How many days do you have left of your 90 days?
I would suggest you call you regualr GYN/OB. They might be able to work something out with you. That would be my first step. You might be suprised. Congrats on your pregnancy!
 
Dh switched jobs and DD has a medical condition so we did lots of research. If the waiting period is 90 days you may only have to pay one month of COBRA plus a few appts. This would be beneficial if the doctor you choose doesn't accept medicaid.

COBRA has to back date if you have an emergency but you can have a lapse in coverage and just pay OOP if nothing major comes up. (Talk to your OB about your situation and they should have a financial counselor you can talk to.)
 
Pregnant moms are covered in our state (TN) plan - you may have a premium based on your income - if you qualify - take it - that's what it's there for.

There was also a hospital-based clinic where we lived before (Jacksonville, Florida) - you paid based on a sliding scale, and it covered your pregnancy through delivery. Maybe there is something like that where you live.
 
I was on pregnancy Medicaid with my son, and he was on it until her was 3. I became pregnant the first year of nursing school- 4 year program- and my husband was laid off.

I didn't have any negative experiences. Several OB-GYNs in my area accepted it, as well as several peds. I don't feel I ever had any negative outcome because of being on Medicaid. Once there was an issue with my son when he was 18 months that was an ordeal, but it was because of incompetence...not insurance.

Some of the blood tests that are ran in the beginning of pregnancy can be expensive. If it weren't for those, or any potential complications, OOP costs for a dr visit once a month wouldn't be too bad. However, you never know what will happen, so if you're eligible, might as well. The paperwork was also pretty easy.
 
OP here. Thanks for all of the advice so far!

How far along are you? I don't want to say "suck it up" but it might be financially better TO pay for a visit or two vs insurance if you don't qualify for the low cost or free coverage. Early on in a pregnancy there really isn't that much for medical care so the cost is usually pretty reasonable.

If you want to look into some temp coverage and don't get the state plan, most major insurance carriers will have gap plans but they generally only cover NEW things so it wouldn't cover your pregnancy but if you had to go to the urgent care for a sinus infection or something like that it would be covered.

The biggest issue you will find is if the state plan has a preexisting condition clause or has a clause for covering pregnancy-often there is an 18 month wait with some plans.

Have you already rejected your COBRA? When was your last day of coverage with your previous job? COBRA is set up to cover gaps like this and you really have almost 90 days before you have to PAY for COBRA so you could elect the coverage to have it in place IN CASE something major happens and if you don't need it cancel and not pay anything-it is designed to do this so it isn't illegal or cheating the system.

I haven't rejected or elected my cobra yet. My insurance ended 8/31 so I have 60 days from 9/1 to elect coverage. Part of my problem is I will be 18 weeks by the time my insurance kicks in Dec. 1. There is at least one ultrasound by then and I know for sure I will have to have a glucose test in there as well. That stuff can really add up! One thing in my favor at least is that if I do not qualify for any state help and I can't find anything else I "should" know about it before the end of my 60 days.

I work for social services in my state. The way I look at it is, if you qualify for the services then you are entitled to receive them. Medicaid and Food Stamps are entitlement programs. If you meet the criteria, then its yours. In our state an interview is not required for Medicaid. You just submit yout application with your proof of income and citizenship/alien status and you will hear from us within 45 days. Medicaid starts on the 1st of the month that you apply and you can request retroactive coverage if you incurred medical bills in the 3 months previous to your application. I understand that public assistance is a last resort to many people. It can kill you pride or make you feel your worst. I tell my clients to think about all the taxes you have paid in the past and consider this your refund. The services are there for the people that meet the criteria and request the assistance so USE IT!

Side note--- I got pregnant at 18 and I was not eligilble for Medicaid bc of my parents income, but my son was and he had it up until he was about 2.

Thank you! Sometimes I feel like assistance is a dirty word.

My first concerns would be finding an obstetrician that accepts Medicaid, many do not. Secondly, if you are not accepted into Medicaid, then you have gone without insurance and given up your COBRA and that may leave you without future coverage for the rest of the pregnancy or for the baby. I would research that. COBRA costs a lot but it may be the best alternative in the long run.

Thankfully I "should" know if I am approved for any state insurance before the end of my cobra election period. According to HIPPA pregnancy cannot be subject to a pre-existing condition exclusion even if the woman had no prior coverage.

I agree, re examine COBRA.

The problem with cobra is that it leaves little money to live on. It comes to half of my monthly pay with the other half going to bills it doesn't leave us anything for gas, food etc. I refuse to totally deplete our accounts if there is assistance we can qualify for.

This happened to us with our second child. I was just as concerned about seeing the doctor right away due to a previous miscarriage, and a complicated pregnancy.
How many days do you have left of your 90 days?
I would suggest you call you regualr GYN/OB. They might be able to work something out with you. That would be my first step. You might be suprised. Congrats on your pregnancy!
Dec. 1 starts my new health plan. I've had previous miscarriages so that is a concern to me as well. Part of our problem is that when we decided to stop trying we also decided to move. We've been here for 3 months, but I don't even have an ob/gyn here.

Dh switched jobs and DD has a medical condition so we did lots of research. If the waiting period is 90 days you may only have to pay one month of COBRA plus a few appts. This would be beneficial if the doctor you choose doesn't accept medicaid.

COBRA has to back date if you have an emergency but you can have a lapse in coverage and just pay OOP if nothing major comes up. (Talk to your OB about your situation and they should have a financial counselor you can talk to.)

I'm curious what you mean by we might only have to pay for one month? For us, as I understand it, we have to elect coverage from Sept. 1 (our insurance ended 8/31). The reality is I could wait until Oct. to go to the doctor, but I still have to pay for Sept and Oct.

Pregnant moms are covered in our state (TN) plan - you may have a premium based on your income - if you qualify - take it - that's what it's there for.

There was also a hospital-based clinic where we lived before (Jacksonville, Florida) - you paid based on a sliding scale, and it covered your pregnancy through delivery. Maybe there is something like that where you live.

That's actually the only reason I could potentially qualify, because I am pregnant. Otherwise, I make too much money. I am going to look into places that use a sliding scale. Thanks! I didn't think of that.

I was on pregnancy Medicaid with my son, and he was on it until her was 3. I became pregnant the first year of nursing school- 4 year program- and my husband was laid off.

I didn't have any negative experiences. Several OB-GYNs in my area accepted it, as well as several peds. I don't feel I ever had any negative outcome because of being on Medicaid. Once there was an issue with my son when he was 18 months that was an ordeal, but it was because of incompetence...not insurance.

Some of the blood tests that are ran in the beginning of pregnancy can be expensive. If it weren't for those, or any potential complications, OOP costs for a dr visit once a month wouldn't be too bad. However, you never know what will happen, so if you're eligible, might as well. The paperwork was also pretty easy.

That's my worry. I've had miscarriages before and I don't want to pay OOP for a d&c that is for sure! I also know I'd need at least an ultrasound and a glucose test before my insurance kicks in.
 
Ok, you have until 11/1 to elect coverage and another 45 days after that to actually pay so if you don't USE the coverage between now and Dec 1st, you don't pay anything, if you HAVE to use the coverage, send in your payment THAT day. You don't have to take the dental coverage or anything else if that helps keep your costs down.

I would then find an OB/GYN ASAP, explain your situation and see if they would be willing to work with you on the payments for any treatment between now and Dec 1st. Be ready to show them your paperwork that you WILL have insurance then. If you live near any teaching hospitals you might have better luck with this if you are willing to have med students examine you as well as the MD.

If you have to USE the COBRA, you will need to do what you have to do to pay the bills-take money out of savings or whatever but if you don't need it, don't pay for it.

This is all assuming you DON'T get the state plan-if you get the state plan, GREAT and ignore the above :lmao:
 
My fear is if you don't continue the Cobra, the new policy won't pick the pregnancy up deeming pre-existing condition. Would the state insurance cover you thru delivery if that was the case?

Residents have access to all the newest medical equipment and are 'real' doctors. If there is a hospital with an OBGYN training program, what about utilizing their clinic.

I don't know anything about the assistance programs, but I do worry the pregnancy might not be covered with the new policy unless you cobra-ed.

And CONGRATULATIONS. What a wonderful surprise and blessing! If everyone waited until it was "the right" time to get pregnant, no one would ever have babies.
 
I *think* the way it was explained to me was that I could wait 60 days to elect COBRA. If there was anything that happened during those 60 days I could pay retroactivly to the last day of work. I thought they said if I didn't need to do that I could pay from that point on. Now that I am typing it out, *maybe* at that point you have to pay completely retroactive? I'm not 100% sure which it is. (I was looking at a 30 day waiting period so maybe my memory is fuzzy.)

There are lots of websites about COBRA and HIPAA that are helpful.
 
Oh, I meant to add, you should ask this on the disABILITY part of the board, I got lots of good advice there at the time.
 
My fear is if you don't continue the Cobra, the new policy won't pick the pregnancy up deeming pre-existing condition. Would the state insurance cover you thru delivery if that was the case?

Residents have access to all the newest medical equipment and are 'real' doctors. If there is a hospital with an OBGYN training program, what about utilizing their clinic.

I don't know anything about the assistance programs, but I do worry the pregnancy might not be covered with the new policy unless you cobra-ed.

And CONGRATULATIONS. What a wonderful surprise and blessing! If everyone waited until it was "the right" time to get pregnant, no one would ever have babies.


That is my fear as well. From what I have found doing a little research, according to HIPPA, pregnancy can never be considered a pre-existing condition even if the woman did not have coverage before the plan became effective.
 
My fear is if you don't continue the Cobra, the new policy won't pick the pregnancy up deeming pre-existing condition. Would the state insurance cover you thru delivery if that was the case?

Residents have access to all the newest medical equipment and are 'real' doctors. If there is a hospital with an OBGYN training program, what about utilizing their clinic.

I don't know anything about the assistance programs, but I do worry the pregnancy might not be covered with the new policy unless you cobra-ed.

And CONGRATULATIONS. What a wonderful surprise and blessing! If everyone waited until it was "the right" time to get pregnant, no one would ever have babies.


As long as she has SOME kind of plan in place before 11/3 she won't have a "gap" in coverage-if that is the state plan, electing COBRA or going with a Gap plan until Dec if she hasn't used COBRA. You have 63 days before you are considered to have had a gap in coverage. As long as there is no gap in coverage they can't excluded preexisting conditions. After Jan 1, preexisting conditions can no longer be excluded under the new heath care reform.
 
medicaid has many many programs. Here in MA, we have Healthy Start (for pregnancy related issues only), true Medicaid, Medicaid Managed Care, Carve out managed care programs paid partially or fully by Medicaid, Health Safety Net (total and partial, a type of free care) and then the many Commonwealth Care programs.

If I were you, I would go to your nearest hospital. Ask for the Financial counseling dept. They will walk you through the application process, help you fill in any paper work and show you every option that you qualify for. In MA, the one application is good for all of the programs. This is their area of expertise, they would be your best resource.
 
I made up a new name because the last thread I read about this was NASTY!

Here is our situation. We recently became pregnant and my health insurance does not kick in for 90 days. My cobra from my previous job is more than half of my current monthly paycheck so that is out. We did not plan on becoming pregnant at all. In all honesty we tried and tried and tried to no avail for more than 2 years. We temped and charted and used ovulation monitors. I had test upon test at the doctors to ultimately find out they had no idea why it wasn't working. We made all of our decisions around "when we have kids." Now that we have stopped that it finally happened.

Our state has a pre-application that you can fill out and it shows you what you may qualify for. We "may" qualify for "low or no cost health insurance." We're hoping just for some coverage for me until my health insurance kicks in.

Has anyone ever used this assistance? Any advice you can offer. I applied and now we're waiting to see if we qualify. What is the application process like? They say I might have to be interviewed, which is fine except for taking time off work.

And please, if your suggestion is to suck it up and just pay the doctor and hospital bills until insurance kicks in, please do not respond. Financially, that is not an option. I'm not looking for advice on whether I should use the assistance if I qualify, just advice about state health insurance.
and yet soooo many responses have been about paying out of pocket or getting cobra. why? op has already said this is not financially possible. she will most likely qualify for medicaid. :confused3 this is what it is for. if you qualify, use it.
op, start checking with ob's in your area to find out who accepts medicaid. talk to the office manager to see if there is any way to be seen before your coverage with medicaid starts. medicaid will pay past bills (can't remember how far back they will go). be sure to explain your fears of waiting due to past pregnancy problems.
if you can go to a local office to apply, do it! you will get better results if you see someone face to face. if you have to apply on line do it, then start calling to check on the status. they tell you to wait a certain amount of time, but you can still try!! when you get someone on the phone, tell them your concerns about waiting too long for prenatal care. hopefully you can get approved and your coverage will start the first of the next month.
GOOD LUCK AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BABY!!!!!!
 
I made up a new name because the last thread I read about this was NASTY!

Here is our situation. We recently became pregnant and my health insurance does not kick in for 90 days. My cobra from my previous job is more than half of my current monthly paycheck so that is out. We did not plan on becoming pregnant at all. In all honesty we tried and tried and tried to no avail for more than 2 years. We temped and charted and used ovulation monitors. I had test upon test at the doctors to ultimately find out they had no idea why it wasn't working. We made all of our decisions around "when we have kids." Now that we have stopped that it finally happened.

Our state has a pre-application that you can fill out and it shows you what you may qualify for. We "may" qualify for "low or no cost health insurance." We're hoping just for some coverage for me until my health insurance kicks in.

Has anyone ever used this assistance? Any advice you can offer. I applied and now we're waiting to see if we qualify. What is the application process like? They say I might have to be interviewed, which is fine except for taking time off work.

And please, if your suggestion is to suck it up and just pay the doctor and hospital bills until insurance kicks in, please do not respond. Financially, that is not an option. I'm not looking for advice on whether I should use the assistance if I qualify, just advice about state health insurance.


op-call the county or state office that handles this for where you live to get accurate answers. medicaid (or whatever your individual state calls their version) varies GREATLY in coverage and the application process even within individual states let alone state to state.

generaly speaking, the application process involves you providing the necessary information that the eligibility worker (or intake worker or benefit worker or whatever it's called where you live) needs to evaluate your eligibility to a myriad of programs. in some places this is now an entirely automated process, where once you provide the necessary information either on-line, with a paper application or through an oral interview (phone or face to face) it's input into a computer which runs the data (nuts and bolts are household composition, income, assetts or resources, ages of people in the household and a BIGGIE-if a pregnant person is in the household) to see if you are eligible to any available coverage. in some places it's still a staff member whose looking to every program to determine your eligibility. in either case you should get a notice soon after apply to aknowledge your application and advise you of any verifications your need to provide.


when i supervised a medicaid unit the law allowed 45 days to approve or deny an application. sometimes it took that long, but usualy it was a shorter time span (getting any verification in as soon as it's requested makes the process smoother b/c there are some that a case has to have a hard copy of in the file or it can't be granted even if eligible-if you don't have a specific verification ask the staff member requesting it if there is some kind of release or form you can sign that permits them to get it directly). sometimes despite the best efforts of staff it takes the full 45 days-esp. if the number of applicatnts is large, and the number of staff is limited (which with hiring freezes and mandatory furloghs may be the case these days). it's fine to call a worker and ask what the status of your case is, but just be aware that if you repeatedly call it just takes time away from their case processing time (and applications are done in the order they are submitted, going into an office may not result in any better result-in fact it can be a tremendous time waste. call ahead b/c you may find that the 2 hours you've taken off work to go to the office and waited in line was just to be told that your area only does on-line or mail in applications).



something you might want to consider doing-find out from your current h/r about what insurance will be available to you in 90 days. if it's an hmo where you will have to pick a provider group, and your obgyn will have to be a member, you might want to figure out now which group you want to associate with. call their office and explain the situation. you may find that a doctor whose office would normaly say they have no current medicaid slots available WILL accept you because they know that you will be transitioning into a traditional employer sponsored plan within a few months.
 

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