beth, you and another fellow dis'er enlightened me on that one; that is both the best news and a little the worst.. i had a girlfriend that was going to give one of my g's her last day on her child pass, now i will have to tell her so she can use it herself.. oh, and they don't keep them, do they?? jade wants it for her scrap book... i was sure they didn't but just in case.. thanks for the great info... makes those 7 day tickets more intelligent.. k2