Live Kittens as Bait?!?

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This Europe: Anglers in northern Italy find new bait to catch river Po's giant catfish: live kittens

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This Europe: Anglers in northern Italy find new bait to catch river Po's giant catfish: live kittens
By Peter Popham in Rome
07 July 2003


Anglers from northern Europe are using live kittens for bait while fishing in the Po river for the gigantic sheat-fish, according to police.

Giuseppe Lagana, a police officer in Mantua in the Po valley, said that the first case was detected in May. But Mr Lagana, who doubles as a commander with Ampana, Italy's voluntary nature protection force, said the incident was not isolated.

"We've received a lot of indications that there are other such cases," he said. "During one of our last nocturnal patrols, one boat managed to evade our checks. It ignored warnings and cleared off with its lights extinguished. We suspect that this was also one of these fishermen without a conscience. Using live kittens to catch sheat-fish is an unheard-of cruelty."

The sheat-fish is a freshwater catfish that can grow to a length of two metres or more. It can weigh up to 660lb (300kg). It has decimated the traditional fish of the Po, Italy's longest river, since its introduction some years ago, and has colonised all the waterways around Mantua. The fish, which has a jutting lower jaw and the long curling whiskers of the catfish, is omnivorous, and when it has exhausted local supplies of carp and eel is happy to snap up ducks and rats. The largest specimens think nothing of charging anglers' boats. They also eat each other.

Traditionally, Italians have been sniffy about sheat-fish, holding that its meat is not worth eating.

Sometimes the fish is passed off to credulous restaurateurs as sturgeon. But the big-game challenges of catching the brute have proved irresistible.

Anglers descend on the Po, pile into rented houseboats and set out to do battle, with or without a secret stash of kittens.

Mr Lagana said that another cruel method of catching the fish was to spear an eel with a harpoon and dangle it in the water, where its agonised thrashings were intolerably tempting for the big beast of the deeps.

Ugly though these practices are, Mr Lagana holds out little hope of stopping them.

"Last year, the voluntary guards in the region covered 15,000 kilometres [9,300 miles]," he said. "But to catch these squalid people in the act is very difficult, even using co-ordinated land and water night patrols."
 
I can't even describe how sick this makes me. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

:mad: :mad: i hope they all get their eyes scratched out
:mad: :mad:
 
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

And since there's an 8-smily limit... multiply the above by 100.
 
:mad: I would like to use them with some chum as bait for shark fishing!!:mad: let the see how it feels to be terrified and dangled in the water and have a big ol fish take a bite out of them!! :mad: people like that think that animals dont have feelings so who cares they wont know the diference!How wrong they are!!:mad: they also will eventually get what is coming to them just wish it could be sooner than later!:mad:
 
I agree with Banshee although I would love to have my turn at them first!!!
 
Originally posted by RoutemanDan
Yeah,that's the same.:rolleyes:
explain how its different? Because the kitten is cute and furry and the worm is cold and slimmy? I life is a life. Its okay to kill the worm so you can kill and eat a fish but its not okay to kill a cat so you can kill and eat the fish. Why is it okay to kill one type of animal for our needs but not okay to kill another?
 
The difference is a worm has no prominent sense organs.They really don't even have what we would consider a brain.A kitten on the other hand does and experiences pain.
 
playing devil's advocate here:

calves feel pain and we eat them as veal
cattle feel pain and we eat them as hamburgers
chickens feel pain and we eat them as chicken pot pie
turkeys feel pain and we eat them as turkey dinners
pigs feel pain and we eat them as pork loin

what is the difference?
 
We don't torture them by placing them on a hook as live bait for something to eat them.They are put to death fairly quick.
Does the difference between a kitten and worm being used for bait really need to be explained?
 
i wasn't sure if they were being put on the hook live or just killed at the last second -- the article didn't specify.

and those of you who are ready to call the spca on me or something, please note i did say i was playing devil's advocate. :)

one could argue that the way some calves are treated before they are killed to be made into veal is torture.
 
I think the animals you list Caity are (hopefully) humanely put to death and not dangled into water above snapping jaws. If even the eel has agonized thrashing in the water-- think of the kitten who doesn't naturally live in the water like the eel does.
 
so if the kittens were humanely killed and then used as bait, people wouldn't have a problem with it?
 
Originally posted by caitycaity
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one could argue that the way some calves are treated before they are killed to be made into veal is torture.


I agree about the calves caity,horrible what is done to them.
 
I see your point caity, but there's just something about the thought of a live kitten dangling at the end of a hook, thrashing in the water until it drowns...

calves feel pain and we eat them as veal
cattle feel pain and we eat them as hamburgers
chickens feel pain and we eat them as chicken pot pie
turkeys feel pain and we eat them as turkey dinners
pigs feel pain and we eat them as pork loin

And we now know that sausages feel pain, but we still grill them...;)
 


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