Keeping severly disabled kids small????

However, this is not a case of eugenics ... the child in question was given a hysterectomy to prevent the release of natural growth hormones by the body. She was not given a hysterectomy to prevent her from reproducing. And therefore .. I'll say it one more time for good measure ... its not eugenics!!!!!!! Sigh ...

I thought this needed repeating in bold. I fail to see how anyone could see this as a case of eugenics.
Is there anyone out there that thinks this child will ever be capable of consenting to sexual relations, much less being able to make the decision to become a parent? If that was the case, and the parents were making this decision to stop her from reproducing, then it would be eugenics.
 
Hedy said:
Sorry, the more I'm reading about this case, the more I'm convined that the parents are selfish and practicing eugenics on their daughter.
This is a blantant human rights violation, and should be dealt with accordingly.


You're right- they are selfish. Selfish for wanting to be able to keep their daughter at home, where they can care for her. Selfish for wanting to ensure that she is fed, bathed, positioned to prevent bedsores, and loved. Selfishly putting their needs ahead of their daughter's :rolleyes:

How can you think for one minute the care a severely mentally disabled person gets in a care facility is better or even equal to the care of a loving family? In a facility this child would lay for hours in one position, in filthy diapers, with little or no interaction with anyone. She would be slung around and treated like a breathing piece of meat.
 
I am 100% behind these parents. That had to have been a hard decision to make, but it would have been even harder to put her in an adult home. She is better off with family.
 
imagine trying to explain the changes of growing up to a disable child, we will have to do it soon, dont even know where to satrt
 

Mickey'snewestfan said:
As for the "productivity" issue I would argue that this little girl is already a contributing member of society -- when she smiles at her mom and warms her heart, when she gives and receives love she is contributing. If this is the only way she is able to contribute it's enough. If she ends up being separated by her family because they don't have the resources to care for her as she grows she's losing the opportunity to use the few gifts she has been given.

Good point, sometimes we overlook this. My nephew has a great laugh. When he's in a good mood his giggle can be quite contagious. He makes an excellent contribution. :)
 
I'm having a really tough time with this. The article states the hope a healthy debate will come out of this situation and I hope it does. I have worked with people with developmental disabilities for seventeen years. When I think about it, it's been the only field I've worked in since college.

Over the years, I have been a direct support professional, middle management and now Director. I have had the privilege to work with people who probably fit many of the profiles already stated. I am very troubled because many of my clients are productive, healthy members of society but whose records contain much of the language I read here today: 'will never be able to live alone, will never be able to hold a job, will never develop more than being an infant.' These records were written by physicians, social workers and other professionals. These same people today are living in apartments with minimal assistance, married with children, or happily residing in group homes spending their days with friends in adult day care settings.

When I hire direct support professionals, I tell them we are looking for people who believe all people are here for a reason - a reason other than employing us. It is our jobs to help them a journey to discover their gifts and share them with the world. I do not fault the parents, because obviously they had people who assisted them make this decision, but I do worry about a society who may be removing the potential of individuals for the sake of convenience.
 
I've lived with a child like this- my brother. Trust me when I tell you there is no possibility of advancement, improvement, development or whatever you want to call it. Children with severe brain damage are not even infant-like- they do not have the potential for achievement that an infant has.

My brother was severely brain-damaged due to hypoxia before birth. My parents lived in hope for many many months, hoping that their son would regain function, that he would be able to do more than eat, eliminate and sleep. It never happened, it could never happen- the damage was too severe.

As time went on he LOST function, not through lack of care or trying. By the age of two he had even lost the ability to suckle and spent the last two years of his life being tube-fed. He never cooed, never smiled, never recognized his mother's face (or any family member for that matter).

Here's a blog post I made about my brother and his short life. If you lived what I have lived you would understand why these parents did what they did for their daughter. It's a terrible thing, to have a child like that.

I always get a little frisson of guilt when I tell people I’m an only child, because I’m not, really.
I was not quite 2 when Georgie was born, so I really don’t remember anything from around that time. All I know is the little my mom has told me, in bits and pieces through the years. I hoard these little bits of information like a miser, storing them in a Georgie-shaped hole in my heart. I never know when the next one is coming.

I know my mom had a difficult pregnancy, a lot of spotting and bleeding and cramping the whole time. She also had terrible ‘morning’ sickness that lasted all day, and also the whole pregnancy; she left the hospital after his birth weighing less than she did before she got pregnant- I seem to remember her saying she only gained about 6 pounds.

I know there were complications during labor and delivery- that Georgie was in fetal distress, that there was meconium in the amniotic fluid. I know that the doctors estimated later that he was without oxygen for between 3 and 4 minutes during delivery. I don’t know what caused it- my mom has never said, and it’s not something that I could ask. The doctors knew, but they didn’t say anything to my parents, hoping I guess that Georgie would be fine. My parents thought they had a healthy baby boy, named George Junior. Until.

Until my dad had gone home, and my mom was alone in her hospital room with Georgie, just hours after his birth. She was holding him on her shoulder, burping him after a bottle. His body went stiff, and then began to shake. She had no idea what was wrong. She was afraid to move, afraid to put him down, afraid. So she rang for a nurse. It was fifteen minutes before a nurse came. I cannot even begin to imagine what those fifteen minutes must have been like for my mom. The terror, the fear that her son would die in her arms and that she couldn’t help him. Even today, 34 years later, she cannot bear to watch anyone hold an infant that way.

The nurse finally came and grabbed Georgie out of my mom’s arms and rushed him away. Someone else, a nurse or a doctor, called my dad and told him to come back right away. My mom was told nothing before my dad got there- where her child was, what was wrong with him, even if he was alive. When my dad finally got there he and my mom were told the basics- fetal distress, meconium, oxygen deprivation. Seizures, serious brain damage, intensive care. Touch and go, prepare for the worst, emergency baptism. Probably won’t live for more than 6 months.

I don’t remember when Georgie finally came home. I do know that my parents looked long and hard for an answer, a solution. They hoped that the doctors and experts were wrong, that Georgie would devlop normally, that some miracle would happen and he would wake up one morning and smile.

So Georgie came home, and my parents did the best they could, at a time when there were not many social services available, and those that were, were only available to those below the poverty level or for those families that chose to permanently hospitalize their children. Every agency that they applied to turned them down- I remember my mom telling me once that my dad made $100 a year too much for Georgie to be eligible for assistance from Easter Seals- she won’t donate to them, even to this day. The Masonic Home for Children recommended that they put Georgie on their wait-list, just in case something happened to one of my parents and the other could not carry on alone. So there was no special stroller or wheelchair, no physical therapy, no respite care, no special education starting at 6 months old. About the only thing they got help with was the electric bill in the summertime- they got a reduction because the room air-conditioner was deemed ‘medically necessary’.

When Georgie was six months old, my parents’ apartment lease wasn’t renewed, and they had less than a month to find a place for the four of us to live. Their landlady didn’t renew their lease because her daughter was pregnant, and she thought what Georgie had was ‘catching’, that her daughter shouldn’t be exposed to a retarded baby while she was pregnant. To avoid that sort of discrimination my parents bought a house, a modest row house that they could barely afford. It had three bedrooms though, so Georgie could have his own room. Except that Georgie didn’t like his room- he would moan all night, so loud that no one could sleep- I barely remember this, it wasn’t the cry of an unhappy baby but an unearthly moan, like a trapped animal. He didn’t like my room or my parents’ room either. The only place where they could put Georgie’s crib where he wouldn’t moan was the dining room. Since we had no dining room furniture, the dining room became Georgie’s bedroom. But Georgie needed someone with him at night, to feed him and to suction his airways. So my parents bought a sleeper sofa and my dad would sleep in the living room to be close to Georgie- he took the night shift since my mom was with him all day.

We rarely went anywhere- Georgie quickly grew too large for carriages and couldn’t sit up unassisted in a stroller, so my mom or dad had to carry him. There were no vacations- no money for them, and who would care for Georgie? The world was not ADA-accessible in the early seventies. Once Georgie outgrew an infant car seat transporting him was difficult- there were no car seats for older kids, he had to lay on the back seat with someone next to him to keep him from rolling. Or for short trips he could ‘sit’ on someone’s lap. Once he was over a year old I don’t remember Georgie going many places, except to the doctor’s or the hospital. I don’t remember the stares, but I’m sure they were there. My mother’s parents were over quite a bit to help out, to give my parents a break (and in retrospect to give me a bit of attention). Once in a while they would take me and my mom on a day trip to the shore, or to a local amusement park. I have no memories of my father on any of these trips- someone had to stay home with Georgie.

For a couple of years, Georgie was bottle-fed. He continued to have seizures though, and eventually he lost the suckling reflex and had to be tube-fed. I still remember the cans of powder for Georgie’s tube feedings stacked under the kitchen sink. The stuff was called Meritene, and it came in cans with yellow plastic lids and dark blue labels. It had to be mixed with water to a thick slurry, and it was my job to watch, once my mom had inserted the tube in Georgie’s nose, down his throat and into his stomach, to make sure there were no lumps stuck. I took my job very seriously; I would drag the kitchen step-stool into the dining room and next to his crib so I could sit on the stool and see the whole length of the tube, from the bag down to Georgie’s nose.

Georgie was in and out of the hospital quite a bit with pneumonia. I remember going to pick him up from one stay, all happy and excited that my brother was coming home. Looking back, it was his last hospital stay- the doctors must have told my parents there was no hope, to take him home and make him comfortable.

It was early on a Sunday morning, bright and cold. Santa would be coming soon- we had just had a visit from him in my first grade classroom, and I had brought home my candy cane to put in Georgie’s stocking- I knew he couldn’t eat it but it made me feel good to give it to him anyway. I always used to go to Georgie’s crib first thing after coming downstairs, to say good morning, then my mom would hook up the bag and the tube and I would help feed my brother. But this morning his crib was empty. I thought he had gone back to the hospital. But my parents took me into their bed, both of them together, with me between them, and told me that Georgie had gone to heaven the night before. That he had been sick, but the doctors couldn’t make him better, so God decided to take him to heaven so he wouldn’t be sick anymore. And God would fix him so he could walk and talk and play and run and be a normal little boy forever in heaven. I remember crying a little, sad for me but happy for Georgie up in heaven. I was more surprised by the fact that it was Sunday and we weren’t going to mass than I was that my brother had died.

I remember his funeral, me and my mom walking right behind his little casket being carried by my dad and my uncles. I remember seeing my whole first grade class in the church. I remember sitting in the front pew, squished between my mom and dad- they held my hands so tight. I remember the priest who said his mass- he was one of my favorites, an Indian priest who often came into the first grade classrooms to talk about God. I remember walking out of the church behind the casket, saying to my mom, “That’s not really Georgie in there, he’s up in heaven with God, right?” I remember Christmas, the last Christmas I believed in Santa. Santa never brought Georgie that much, a few Matchbox cars in his stocking, some new clothes under the tree, a stuffed toy for his crib. I always ended up playing with the few toys he got. My parents must have done the Christmas shopping early that year and not known what to do with Georgie’s presents, so they put them out anyway. I remember sitting by the tree in the dining room, the tree that was in the same spot where Georgie’s crib had been just a few days earlier, and telling my parents, “Santa must not know Georgie’s dead!”

I hate that I have so few memories of my brother. Most of my memories of him are of his death and funeral. To me his life was normal, unremarkable, and therefore unremembered. Only his death and funeral were different and unique and made an impression on my mind. I have a few scattered memories- Georgie in his crib, lying there with blank eyes. Georgie lying in his crib, a tube in his nose, while I watched the tube for clumps and listened to the noises in the kitchen- my mom doing the dishes after dinner, she and my dad talking, the sounds of home. Me, sitting in the back seat of the car, in front of the hospital, waiting for my mom to come out with Georgie. The Fisher-Price radio that hung on his crib rail and played Twinkle Twinkle Little Star- I kept that for the longest time, hidden in my room. Every now and then I would take it out and wind it up. Once in a while when I had trouble sleeping I would wind it up and stick it under my pillow. My mom found it in my room when I was about 11 or 12 and took it away from me. She still has it. The sleepy bunny that my grandparents gave him his first Easter-there is a picture of all the grandchildren, Georgie included, on the sofa in my grandparents’ house, holding the stuffed toys that we got as Easter presents that year. That was when Georgie could still go places, when my parents still had hope that the doctors were wrong, that their son would be fine. I had the bunny for a while too, until my mom took it away- I don’t know if she still has it. I can recreate some scenes from pictures in my family’s photo albums, but they are not true memories.

I miss my brother. I don’t think a day has passed in my life where I haven’t thought of him at least once. There is a hole in my heart and in my life since the day he died and I started lying about being an only child. Telling the truth just raises too many questions that even as an adult I cannot handle. So I lie, say things like, "Yes, I was spoiled," or "No, I never had to share, I got everything I wanted, except that pony."

I want my brother back, you son of a *****.
 
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:grouphug: phillybeth what a tribute to your brother and how much he was loved.

I think the hardest part for my brother's family has been excepting that my nephew will never get better. I remember when he was little my SIL would buy all kinds of neat toys just hoping that one would catch his interest. That something would trigger a response :( Nothing ever did.

I don't think it's a very big percentage of disabled people that don't have the capability to learn but they are there. The families do eventually have to accept it and love them for who they are. The pain of hoping for more doesn't make it happen when the damage is just too much.
 
janette said:
:grouphug: phillybeth what a tribute to your brother and how much he was loved.

Thanks, he was loved, and still is. He's always my brother, no matter where he is :love:


janette said:
I don't think it's a very big percentage of disabled people that don't have the capability to learn but they are there. The families do eventually have to accept it and love them for who they are. The pain of hoping for more doesn't make it happen when the damage is just too much.

You're right, there are not many who are that severely disabled- the unfortunate few :guilty: Really just a few seconds more and my brother would have been stillborn; a few seconds less and he probably would have been 'normal'.
 
I believe the parents have her best interest in mind. They want to keep her out of an institution and be able to care for her.

Who are we to judge?
 
phillybeth said:
You're right, there are not many who are that severely disabled- the unfortunate few :guilty: Really just a few seconds more and my brother would have been stillborn; a few seconds less and he probably would have been 'normal'.

My nephew's official diagnosis' are Microcephaly & Cerebral Palsy. They really aren't sure of a cause and it happened as he developed. At least they've never had as much as "what if" that I'm sure your parents did.
 
Thank you for sharing that, phillybeth.
I knoe how hard it is to write something like that.
 
Phillybeth, that was a beautiful story about your brother. It brought tears to my eyes.

I wonder whether when many people think "developmetally disabled" they don't think of people like your brother... they think of the functionally disabled living and working in their communities. When they hear of radical medical practices performed on the developmentally disabled, they are therefore understandably shocked.

But in the case of people like your brother, janette's nephew, etc, their awareness of themselves and their environment is extremely limited, almost nonexistant. It is never going to be something other than extremely limited. Therefore, something that would be unethical if done to most dd people, like growth hormone treatment, really (in my opinion) cannot by definition be unethical if done to children like the one in the original post. If such a child cannot be aware of the treatment and cannot suffer from it, then it is not unethical if it creates positive gains in his/her life (like a stable and loving home situation) and/or the life of the family.

Another poster pointed out earlier that there are some severely dd people who will make gains and who will someday become functional, even in a limited fashion. This is true, but I think medically, we are capable of distinguishing between those who can potentially make gains and those who can't. For example, when doctors tested your brother, they probably found he had only reflex behavior and little or no brain activity.

Its not like life is going to be like a soap opera for these people -- one day they're lying on a bed in diapers unable to move or interact with their environment, and the next day they get up and start walking and get a job shredding documents or get married or whatever. It is really sad, but we need to accept that there are some people who are disabled in a way that no amount of therapy or love or positive thinking can alter.
 
Cindy B said:
Working with mentally/disabled students of all shapes and sizes, I have a few things to say about this . . . I've taught in that classroom, and while physically straining, it was rewarding . . . There are adult sized items that can be used.
I think you're wrong. Yes, it is possible to get adult-sized diapers, adult-sized wheelchairs, etc., BUT what about the parents' physical condition? As they grows to adult-size, the parents will be growing older too. Eventually they'll be in their 50s, 60s, 70s -- you admit that it's a physically demanding job. How will they handle an adult-sized child? How will they get her into bed? How will they bathe her? They can care for her longer if she remains small.

You mentioned that these kids can end up working in simple jobs in the community -- that's true for many kids, and I always smile when I see them cleaning churches, etc. They look so happy to be doing their simple jobs. But THIS child is described as having the abilities of an infant. Judging from this short article, she appears NOT to have the ability to do even a simple job.

Her small size will be an asset, not a liability. If I were in her parents shoes, I'm pretty sure I'd choose to do exactly what they've done.
 
It must have been a very difficult decision for the parents to make, but I think they made the right decision for their daughter - now she'll be able to stay with people who love her and can give her plenty of care, rather than having to go into some kind of facility where the care is much more spread out (and the carers don't necessarily care all that much about each individual).
 
Philly Beth, your post made me cry. Your family was touched and changed in a way most of us can never imagine. Obviously it gave you the gift of grace.

To the original question, I have no issues with what the parents did. I wish I could meet them and let them know how I admire their foresight and lack of selfishness.
 
Several people have replied that work with disabled people and I applaude them. The teacher in Megan's classroom is wonderful. With that said several of you couldn't believe that the parents would do that to their child. When you work with these children you go home at the end of the day. Parents are with these children 24 hours a day 7 days a week. There is no break for most of these people. I am lucky in that my parents can help me right now but as they age and Megan ages that will change I know it will break their hearts. Megan is 13 years old with the capabilities of a 3 month old. That isn't going to change the older she gets. She does vocalize to us and that is her form of talking. She does smile at us and she does pitch her fits and is beginning to roll her eyes at us like a typical teenager. But no she will not be working at Publix with other disabled young adults. I often worry about the day when we can't keep her at home because of the physical demands her size will place on us. Don't get me wrong every day with her is a blessing as the doctors told us when they finally figured at what was wrong with her that she wouldn't live to be a year old. I would love to talk to those parents to lend my support because I'm sure there will be plenty of people telling them how wrong they are. this is a case of you really need to walk in their shoes before your critize them.
 
PhillyBeth, what a beautiful story. I literally had tears running down my face and DH was all worried about me.

I also don't have a problem with what these parents are doing. I can't possibly imagine what they grow through everyday. If this helps them keep their daughter at home rather than an institution then I don't see how anyone can claim they are being selfish and self-serving.
 
Thanks everyone for your kind words. I wrote that on what would have been my brother's 35th birthday.

You are right, most people don't think of children as severely disabled as my brother- but to me it is apparent from that article that this poor girl is much the same. In a case like this it truly is a blessing to be able to keep the child at home. Her parents have had to face what mine never did, since my brother passed away while he was still of a manageable size. He would have been a big guy if he had lived though- tall like both his grandfathers, who were both over 6'. Imagine trying to care for a 6 foot tall 200 pound infant- it's inconcievable.
 













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