Just a thought.....

Daydreamin

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For the past 2 years, I have visited the DIS boards to learn more about Disney/DVC/DCL from folks that have more insight than myself. Since last summer when our family bought into DVC, I became a more frequent visitor to the DVC board (I know the players, their styles and some of their life events). The goal for me from the boards has always been to learn more so that my family's vacations will be as memorable as those that I had with my parents as a child. I don't post often but I read almost every night since I'm such a poor sleeper. I find my time on the message boards as a form of relaxation.

Anyway...the reason for my post is to try and bring some perspective to the tone of a number of recent strings I've read over the past few nights.

Just 3 short weeks ago my 65 year young, heathly father passed away suddenly while on vacation (ironically in Florida, but not at WDW because he did not agree with some of their corporate decisions). My mother & family celebrated his life, yes I said celebrated his life! My father was a very strong Christian that set a fabulous example for his children and anyone that knew him. He taught each of us that vacations were for family and for memories. I can still remember a Disneyland vacation in the late 60's as if it was yesterday. He was an extremely organized vacation planner...almost a commando type person. Without his planning, I know that we would have missed lots of extra special spots/stops though we didn't always appreciate them as kids.

I can honestly say my father was not the easiest person to live with due to his need to always give you his opinion. Sometimes it wasn't what I wanted to hear, but if I listened carefully I could hear his love and see the other perspective or view he wanted me to hear. He didn't always chose the right words and could set me off by just a couple of mispoken or mistyped words in an e-mail. In most cases, I misunderstood what he was trying to say and we'd have to spend numerous e-mails/phone calls getting it straightened out. He always spoke from his heart and his tone was NEVER disrepectful of another's thoughts/views. He would at times provide an alternate view to create controversy to get people to think about what they were doing/saying. He also knew though when to back off when the other side didn't understand the point he was trying to make or the issue he was trying to raise.

We need to remember that these boards are a way for us to plan and have vacations that will create the magical family memories you and your family will treasure in days to come. We all need to make sure that everyone is entitled to their opinion, that we are not typing a response in anger, that its important to back off rather than incite at times and that if you don't like the tone of a particular poster...then don't read their posts, skip over them (I do this from time to time).

Sorry I didn't mean to preach, I just needed to vent. Life is too short and there are too many memories I want my family to enjoy!

Dream it and you're there!

Off Site - '80,'82,'84,'87
Caribbean Beach - '92,'95,'00
DVC Purchase - 6/00
Vero Beach - '01

[This message was edited by Daydreamin on 02-15-01 at 06:54 AM.]
 
You may not post often but when you do it's a good one. Thank you for putting things in perspective. Much sympathy in the loss of your wonderful father.
 
My thoughts are with you and your family with your loss---but THANKYOU for sharing your life celebration with us here. We all need reminders like that!
 

You seem to have put all my thoughts nicely into that paragraph. It frustrates me that people on these threads start becoming nasty with each other. If you want to get involved in things like that...stay home and watch daytime talk shows all day long. These are supposed to be there to help people out and other people seem to be using them as ways to "get even" or "lash out" with other people. That bothers me. Eventually I might become so bothered by this that I'll even stop visiting DIS. Which is sad. :(

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'81 - Cont.
'88 - Disneyland
'89 - Maingate East
'91 - CBR
'94 - CBR
'95 - CBR
'98 - BC
'00 - WL
'01 - OKW
 
ps...

1 more thought,

Maybe the moderators need to step in and take more action in these times. There are certain people that are just down right nasty nasty people. I just hope when I'm in Disney...they are far away from Florida. ;)

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'81 - Cont.
'88 - Disneyland
'89 - Maingate East
'91 - CBR
'94 - CBR
'95 - CBR
'98 - BC
'00 - WL
'01 - OKW
 
our sympathy for your loss as well. you did hit the nail on the head regarding some posters. generally, people like that are dissatisfied with their own lives and feel the need to lash out. some posts could also be from people having a really bad day. i vote we get some pixie dust to sprinkle on all the posters and love to read the positive posts.
 
I don't see nastyness in any of the threads here recently. I do see some fervent DVC lovers that are quite candid about their opinions of things that DVC does right and wrong, but "nastyness" to me, implies personal attacks or disrespect...I don't see any of that here and that wouldn't be tolerated for a moment by anyone on this board.

I guess I see myself in your description of your father. Always giving my opinion whenever I see an opening. I think that anyone listening to me can see that I believe DVC to be the best thing in the world....I don't know if you meant to convey anything like that or not, but that is what I saw reading about your father.

I am sorry for your loss.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx, pretty sick, huh?
 
Amen! Very eloquently written and the sentiment is one that we all may tend to forget from one time or another. Our sympathies on the loss of your father.
 
Richyam....you have obviously missed out on some boards.

figaro1.jpg

'81 - Cont.
'88 - Disneyland
'89 - Maingate East
'91 - CBR
'94 - CBR
'95 - CBR
'98 - BC
'00 - WL
'01 - OKW
 
I guess I stay here and the debate board....I did see some nastyness towards Eva's wise and moral move....and I did see a post deleted on a thread that had the most inocuous question about where someone could dance with their partner...I guess I figure that is the outside world(them) and really doesn't effect the good guys(us) in here.

I also thought that they were possibly refering to this board and some of the threads where DVC sales have been exposed.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx, pretty sick, huh?
 
So sorry to hear about the loss of your dad. He sounded like a great man and one deserving of a celebration of his life.

Life is short and we don't know from moment to moment what may happen. That's why we too treasure our vacations and DVC has certainly provided us a wonderful opportunity to plan vacations that allow us to spend quality time together.

I do enjoy the spirited debeats on these boards. I have learned so much about DVC and how to maximize our investment for our family. When I see posts that start to get repetitive I just tune out and move onto the next post that may be of interest to me. I agree that we should always respect others opinion..that's how we all learn so much about WDW and DVC!

Have a wonderful day!
 
Sorry to hear of the loss of your father. I'm sure he will be missed very much.
 
I truly appreciate your kind words & expressions. Please let me clarify that I was talking about the tone only of threads/posts on the DVC Board. Understand also that I absolutely appreciate and feel that the DVC board moderators do a great job of keeping people in check. No question in my mind. [Doc, CarolAnnK & TnRobin - You're all awesome!]

Richyams was ONLY ONE of the MANY posters/folks I was referring to in my paragraph about my father. Please understand that I wrote about how much I valued my father's views, knew that he always spoke from his heart (or love for DVC, in Richyams case) and listened between the lines to the "valuable" opinions that he expressed.

In the first months of reading these boards, I learned a ton about DVC from everyone. This board allowed my husband & I to ask the right questions when we got to WDW and decided to take the DVC plunge finally.

Richyams - Please know that I do not feel that you have ever been disrepectful of another poster. At times, you are a bit more extreme than what I think is necessary to make your point, but never disrespectful. Of course, this is my opinion.

One of my points was to try and get folks to focus on what is important and what is not. We need to all take a few moment to be concious of how other people might react to the post we write. Also, remember that on a message board... if you don't like what someone writes, it is always your choice to read it or not.

Dream it and you're there!

Off Site - '80,'82,'84,'87
Caribbean Beach - '92,'95,'00
DVC Purchase - 6/00
Vero Beach - '01

[This message was edited by Daydreamin on 02-16-01 at 07:12 AM.]
 
HERE HERE!!! The tone of some other boards is exactly how/why I found these boards. I got tired of some bickering on another board and went in search of something a bit kinder and more intellectual. I don't post too often, but I'm always lurking. Thank you all for the good posts.
Jim
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Our deepest sympathy on the loss of your Dad. From personal experience I know what a difficult time this is for your entire family.

When I found DIS, the only places I went were the DVC and the Collector's Boards. I spent so much time reading those two boards , it wasn't until recently that I read some of the other places--resorts, theme parks, debate, community etc. WOW--some of the stuff posted on these would curl your hair. Those comments re" Eva were ridiculous. So, now I'm back here most of the time where, usually, everyone tries to polite or at least civil. Let's hope we always keep it that way.

Phil and Mary Jo
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