Jodi Arias Trial Part 3, STILL in redirect of Jodi, Mar 5

[Oreo Cookie]

You are right, in a class in High School (Human Development) the teacher was talking about the harmful effects of pot one day and I told her that pot was no worse then alcohol. Which since I have never tried pot in my life and I have never been drunk to be honest either, (both by choice) might seem like an odd stance for me, but I had seen the harmful effects of Alcohol my whole life as my parents are both alcoholics.

She said if I could find a few people to join my side in the class we could have a debate and so I did convince a couple (which was tough cause I was not very popular).

Long story short the kids there were so brain washed into thinking pot was bad and Alcohol was ok (When IMO it is one of the biggest problems in America today, just look at that High School Football Rape case) that I lost in spectacular fashion (the fact that one of the most popular guys in class debated against me did not help either). However I made sure to let everybody in that class know that because of me taking the unpopular stand they got watch a debate instead of do bookwork that day, because without me there would of been no debate, to which the teacher (who did not even like me much) even agreed.

Point is somebody has to stand against popular opinion, because sometimes popular opinion is wrong and it is not until someone forces you to look at it for what it really is that people can see that sometimes.

That said I believe most of the time the police arrest the right people and the prosecution is right to try and get the best conviction they can, but even if that is true, there are times where it is not and the defense becomes the hero then because they save an innocent person.

In this case clearly Jodi is not only guilty, but guilty of murder 1 and premeditated murder (I think enough has been shown to prove that to me and most clearly), still it was right for her to be defended because everybody has the right to a fair trial and that is how it should be. Like you said I would rather a criminal's lies unravel so there is no doubt then have a person convicted on public opinion alone.

Great post and I totally agree. I understand it's hard watching the defense put on their case, especially when we (in general) become so invested in the outcome and it seems so obvious that JA is guilty of a brutal murder. Many times we ignore any opposing information because it doesn't fit with our view of what happened. I personally don't thin JA has a case at all, her best option would have been to cut a deal to murder 1 with life without the possiblity of parole, but alas she wanted a trial which she is entitled to.

 

[7165red]

Hi, everyone, yesterday was a great day for JM. Can't wait for this afternoon to see JM in action. I heard on Dr. Drew, that everyone in the court room is quietly cheering JM on.

 

[Oreo Cookie]

By the way, yesterday was the 50th anniversary of Gideon v Wainwright.

50 years, I did not know that. Thanks for posting!

 

[Oreo Cookie]

I don't *hate* the attorneys either, and I do believe it's great that there are people out there who can defend those who are innocent and need to be proven so. What I dislike is how somebody like Jose Baez goes out and eats up his 15 minutes and acts like Casey Anthony is such an amazing person and did no wrong. Somebody like Nurmi seems to be doing his job but isn't all about the recognition, if anything it's going to mar his name a bit because Jodi is a terrible client, not because he didn't try.

Somebody posted something from Samuel's site how he'll get you off no matter what. Some people are just sleazy and will defend anybody with little regard for anything other than money. It's like dragging Travis' name through the mud with no concrete proof, it's a disgusting thing. Gah, I feel like I can't translate my thoughts into words. Basically it's all these commercials you see "Were you pulled over and arrested for DUI? Call our office and we'll fight your conviction and win you millions in pain and suffering", some of these attorneys are so unethical.

Totally understand where you are coming from. I dislike Baez's 15 minutes of fame. Somehow he was able to get CA found not guilty, even though everyone thought it was a slam dunk. I'll be honest, I didn't follow the CA trial very closely so I cannot comment on actual evidence, but I was surprised by the verdict too.

The good thing about trials is that is exposes the people like Samuels. His testimony isn't helping JA and now everyone knows about him.

 

[7165red]

Yes, I saw that. It was Wendy Murphy, she was so fired up she let it go, lol. They didn't bleep her. I had to laugh at Jane because she was a little shocked and said we can't say that word.

 

[lorimay]

Yes, I saw that. It was Wendy Murphy, she was so fired up she let it go, lol. They didn't bleep her. I had to laugh at Jane because she was a little shocked and said we can't say that word.

That was funny, she just couldn't hold her tongue.
But she hit the nail on the head.

 

[sunshinehighway]

I totally understand. I have a moral issue with the defense tactics, but at the same time the defendant has control. So if CA or JA makes these accusations, they are going to come out at trial as part of their defense. I don't like the accusations and I don't believe the accusations. JM has done a great job of proving that JA is a liar and that there is no evidence to support her claims against Travis.

With the Casey Anthony case, Baez threw the accusations out there. He didn't even try to present evidence that any of it was true and nobody testified to it being true. It was so slimey

Besides the molestation accusations, look what happened yesterday. Her lawyers put this guy on the stand to testify she had ptsd when then knew she lied on the test. How is that ethical? She completely changed her story from the one the this guy used as the basis for his diagnosis but they just went with it anyways.

 

[crz4mm2]

He had to take lots of Continuing Legal Education classes to know exactly when it was appropriate to use that argument!

 

[WPack911]

Great post and I totally agree. I understand it's hard watching the defense put on their case, especially when we (in general) become so invested in the outcome and it seems so obvious that JA is guilty of a brutal murder. Many times we ignore any opposing information because it doesn't fit with our view of what happened. I personally don't thin JA has a case at all, her best option would have been to cut a deal to murder 1 with life without the possiblity of parole, but alas she wanted a trial which she is entitled to.

Thanks, I hate remembering that story since it really sucked for me at the time, but it was relevant in a way I thought. I agree with you also, JA has no case IMO, she has been grasping at straws for years now and this Self Defense claim is the last one, soon that will be broken and she will be convicted, if she gets death she has nobody to blame but herself for not trying to cut a deal, just like you said.

 

[PebblesMK]

Darn...would have loved to have seen JM on Snapped, but I don't watch that show. LOL I'll have to keep checking for a repeat.I have it recorded because I have the series set to record. I would have to FF through Baez, if I watch it. I tend to keep these things around for a while and then delete them without watching. Kind of like keeping leftovers in the fridge until they go bad.

Just seeing the promos for the show tho, where they showed the setup of the rooms, those shelves looked too close together. Also, without truly making an exact reproduction (with clothes hanging and all), I think it would be tough to get the whole "feel" of the rooms.

I don't "hate" defense lawyers because they're defense lawyers. Every defendant deserves a fair trial. I do think that there are often defense lawyers I don't like, because IMHO (not Uncle Remus') in particular cases, they spin a smarmy story at the expense of someone else's reputation, ie what Bozo did to George Anthony and Nurmi is doing to Travis Alexander with no proof (except to Uncle Remus). There have been trials I've seen where I've felt that there wasn't enough evidence and agree with the "not guilty" verdict, or that I believe there wasn't enough evidence and I'm shocked that someone IS convicted.

I cannot stand Nurmi. Besides the fact (IMHO) that he's attempting to destroy someone based on the lies of the defendant without corroborating evidence (since the only "evidence" is a line in a recording, and they know that they need a whole helluva lot more than that to make Travis into a pedophile), he's obnoxious as hell to listen to, droning on like that.I think that if I were actually a juror on this or any other case, I would feel LESS strongly about opinions like that, because I'd make a conscious effort to focus on "just the facts, ma'am", and that listening to him was just part of the process.

I watched another trial...Adam Kaufman...accused of murdering his wife. This was the "spray tan defense" trial. He was found "not guilty." For various reasons, I think he did murder her. But I agree with the verdict. I thought one defense lawyer was a total ******* (beyond disrespectful to the female judge), but I thought the prosecutors and their case as presented were lousy.

The episode is on YouTube. I thought HLNs setup wasn't even close to being realistic. Their "jury" also was sold on the defenses theory as 10 voted not guilty. Glad our jury gets every aspect.

I'm not gonna ask, but that was funny!

It was like verbal diarrhea, I just add things that don't matter sometimes. But really, he's never been in my kid's life, so it was even more pointless!!

Totally understand where you are coming from. I dislike Baez's 15 minutes of fame. Somehow he was able to get CA found not guilty, even though everyone thought it was a slam dunk. I'll be honest, I didn't follow the CA trial very closely so I cannot comment on actual evidence, but I was surprised by the verdict too.

The good thing about trials is that is exposes the people like Samuels. His testimony isn't helping JA and now everyone knows about him.

I didn't watch much of the CA trial, I just found out she didn't testify, never knew that! Probably better, I can only process so much dysfunction.

 

[WPack911]

So it is starting in a min right?

 

[usnuzuloose]

Thanks, I hate remembering that story since it really sucked for me at the time, but it was relevant in a way I thought. I agree with you also, JA has no case IMO, she has been grasping at straws for years now and this Self Defense claim is the last one, soon that will be broken and she will be convicted, if she gets death she has nobody to blame but herself for not trying to cut a deal, just like you said.

JA has no case, I have no idea why her first attorney wanted out. And if Nurmi wanted out, well that speaks volumes in it's self. They know something we don't no. She clearly can not follow any directions that is for sure.

 

[BearcatsFan]

Anyone else have the DJ on the ABC15 feed instead of the seal?

 

[usnuzuloose]

So it is starting in a min right?

Yeah, ok.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Anyone else have the DJ on the ABC15 feed instead of the seal?

I have the seal, but I am using the KPHO ? link from the first page.

 

[WPack911]

JA has no case, I have no idea why her first attorney wanted out. And if Nurmi wanted out, well that speaks volumes in it's self. They know something we don't no. She clearly can not follow any directions that is for sure.

Oh I totally agree.

 

[BearcatsFan]

I have the seal, but I am using the KPHO ? link from the first page.

Thank you - I switched over to that one.

 

[WPack911]

Yeah, ok.

I will take that as a no? lol! I thought the Judge said 10AM which is 1PM EST, come on people we are ready get in there!

 

[lorimay]

Anyone else have the DJ on the ABC15 feed instead of the seal?

There is a place above the screen to click to get to the trial.
It says for Arias trial coverage click here.

 

[BearcatsFan]

There is a place above the screen to click to get to the trial.
It says for Arias trial coverage click here.

I tried the other feed. One is news and one is the DJI ticker. The KPHO one is working for me though. Now if they'd just get started!

Your grandkids are so cute, BTW!