Jay-Z, Lady Gaga, and Subliminal Messages in Music

[Fatphil32]

Why does nobody worry when it's the Christians who are including subliminal messaging in their music?

Probably because it's the most commonly accepted religion in the United States and most people are familiar with the Bible, so subliminal messages are more obvious, which makes people not put much thought into them. Not necessarily right, but it is what it is.

 

[Fatphil32]

because christians are good and right and everything else is evil and wrong.
its called ethnocentrism. the group you are included in is good and the groups you're not in are wrong and bad. and this thread is a perfect example of it, in action.

Are you suggesting that I said anything other than Christian was wrong? The only post where I even suggested that was when I said I was offended that they use subliminal messages to get their point across rather than just coming out and speaking the truth, for fear their sales will plummet. And I could of called out Axel when she said she worshiped Satan, but I just asked her to express to me via PM why she chose her path.

 

[Sparx]

Are you suggesting that I said anything other than Christian was wrong? The only post where I even suggested that was when I said I was offended that they use subliminal messages to get their point across rather than just coming out and speaking the truth, for fear their sales will plummet. And I could of called out Axel when she said she worshiped Satan, but I just asked her to express to me via PM why she chose her path.

if you didn't think it was shocking and wrong, you wouldn't have made this thread at all. you wouldn't be trying to inform everyone about those particular beliefs, if you didn't strongly agree or disagree with them. and you're not agreeing. you have a tone of disapproval and of "us versus them" throughout all of your posts. and i'm definitely not the only one seeing it.

but i've noticed that you are very conspiracy oriented, from recent things you've said. so i'm taking this whole thread with a grain of salt.

 

[Fatphil32]

if you didn't think it was shocking and wrong, you wouldn't have made this thread at all. you wouldn't be trying to inform everyone about those particular beliefs, if you didn't strongly agree or disagree with them. and you're not agreeing. you have a tone of disapproval and of "us versus them" throughout all of your posts. and i'm definitely not the only one seeing it.

but i've noticed that you are very conspiracy oriented, from recent things you've said. so i'm taking this whole thread with a grain of salt.

lol I just wanted other opinions to see if I had a legitimate view. From the people here, it appears no. But I've talked to other people that see it as something that should be seen and expressed instead of these artists trying to blindly hide their messages. And I have no reason to dislike Freemasons which is the main focus. I just do not agree with what a lot of them believed in in the past, but I go towards educating myself on another religion with an open-mind. I'm sure Axel can vouch for me on that.

And what has made me come across as conspiracy-oriented?

 

[Sparx]

lol I just wanted other opinions to see if I had a legitimate view. From the people here, it appears no. But I've talked to other people that see it as something that should be seen and expressed instead of these artists trying to blindly hide their messages. And I have no reason to dislike Freemasons which is the main focus. I just do not agree with what a lot of them believed in in the past, but I go towards educating myself on another religion with an open-mind. I'm sure Axel can vouch for me on that.

And what has made me come across as conspiracy-oriented?

well since this is already a religious thread, i'm not going to make it political by repeating your feelings on swine flu that were all over facebook earlier today.

 

[Fatphil32]

well since this is already a religious thread, i'm not going to make it political by repeating your feelings on swine flu that were all over facebook earlier today.

lmao that was an inside joke. I was making fun of a friend that is conspiracy oriented. The reasons I posted on FB were the reasons the friend gave me for the so-called scam, even though he had no legitimate reasons other than some of his personal beliefs. I'm not a conspirator in any way, shape, or form. The Danny Lightner guy who was commenting on it was aware of the joke too.

 

[Sparx]

lmao that was an inside joke. I was making fun of a friend that is conspiracy oriented. The reasons I posted on FB were the reasons the friend gave me for the so-called scam, even though he had no legitimate reasons other than some of his personal beliefs. I'm not a conspirator in any way, shape, or form. The Danny Lightner guy who was commenting on it was aware of the joke too.

i'm sorry, then. it seemed like you were being serious about it, especially after this thread, my apologies. lol

 

[Fatphil32]

i'm sorry, then. it seemed like you were being serious about it, especially after this thread, my apologies. lol

lol It's all good. Internet sarcasm is very hard to detect, especially with a serious topic.

 

[nerdylightbulb]

another question I've got is this:

Why does nobody worry when it's the Christians who are including subliminal messaging in their music?

I'm fine with it if it says it's Christian music or something. Otherwise, religion shouldn't be involved

 

[WDWtraveler27]

I always knew Lady Gaga was evil *shifty eyes*




But seriously, I think the whole thing is silly.

She's pretty god damn creapy I think we can all agree on that.

yup

 

[DramaQueen]

I'm fine with it if it says it's Christian music. Otherwise, religion shouldn't be involved

wait...what??

am i understanding this correctly?
you're fine with subliminal messages in music if it's christian music/messages, but if it's any other religion you have a problem with it?

 

[nerdylightbulb]

wait...what??

am i understanding this correctly?
you're fine with subliminal messages in music if it's christian music/messages, but if it's any other religion you have a problem with it?

No. What I meant was that if any religion is being involved in music, it should be classified as music related to that religion. I used Christian music cause it's the only one I could think of :3

 

[WDWtraveler27]

"shut it down" - Liz Lemon

 

[DramaQueen]

No. What I meant was that if any religion is being involved in music, it should be classified as music related to that religion. I used Christian music cause it's the only one I could think of :3

ooooh! gotcha!


also LOL LE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WDWtraveler27]

you watch 30 rock?

 

[DramaQueen]

you watch 30 rock?

most certainly!!!
one of the few lol.

 

[WDWtraveler27]

most certainly!!!
one of the few lol.

Sorry that it took me so long to reply. I was just thinking about how weird it is that we eat birds. its my favorite show! I love it

 

[Fatphil32]

Dead topic.. But I found something in the One Be Lo song "Sleepwalking."

Barcodes, that's the sign of the beast
Now the latest pagan faces be the flyest M.C.s
Hands shakin like a mason with the highest degrees