I've never started a political thread before, but WOW

[punkin]

NEWSFLASH! Just because one does use a PC or Email, does not make themselves any better or smarter than the average Bear.

I spent 30 years as a IT expert (my words ), by Obamas own account ...I SHOULD BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

didn't we already nominate you on another thread?

So I guess Obama just lost all votes from people who dont use PC's! He certainly lost the Senior Citizen vote. But hey who needs them, he got the College kids voting for him.

First women, now old people, who's next?

 

[duckfan78]

Yessssssssssssssssssss HE DID! Not too Elitist is it?



NEWSFLASH! Just because one does use a PC or Email, does not make themselves any better or smarter than the average Bear.

I spent 30 years as a IT expert (my words ), by Obamas own account ...I SHOULD BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!!







From what I know abouts Obamas experience, thats all He believes one needs to know.



Or telephones, or faxes....Heck I Know very Successful CEO's who cant use this stuff.

So I guess Obama just lost all votes from people who dont use PC's! He certainly lost the Senior Citizen vote. But hey who needs them, he got the College kids voting for him.



Biden already did that 2 days ago! WHOOPS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI

I never did think about that, that add really will be turning off alot of people. there are many older americans, who are really not that old, say really middle aged...in their 40-50s who don't know how to use computers or email. smart commercial BO

 

[loco4dis]

From a commenter at instapundit.com, but I wish I'd said it myself:

"I think they spent months trying to figure out how they can position Obama as better qualified than McCain, and basically came up with the fact that Obama can type."

 

[amyhughes]

I think from a voter block perspective the older generation is one you don't want to piss off. You may endear yourself to a younger crowd, but the college age group is one that notoriously is sketchy about showing up come election day. Older people show up, it's true look at any voter polls.

 

[#1hockeymom]

From a commenter at instapundit.com, but I wish I'd said it myself:

"I think they spent months trying to figure out how they can position Obama as better qualified than McCain, and basically came up with the fact that Obama can type."

Good thing we know the president has lots of secretaries to do his typing!

Read My Lipstick!

 

[Michelle67]

I think from a voter block perspective the older generation is one you don't want to piss off. You may endear yourself to a younger crowd, but the college age group is one that notoriously is sketchy about showing up come election day. Older people show up, it's true look at any voter polls.

Yeah, that was my thought process too. He's making really stupid mistakes. It's great to try to energize and attract a youth vote (and hope they actually show up and don't just pontificate in poli-sci class) but you don't alienate the other voters in the process!

 

[IDoDis]

Shouldn't you tell him to just ignore the intense pain that these fine motor skills cause too???

Have you ever heard of the term "universal design?" Look it up. We have students at our university majoring in computer science with severe multiple disabilities.

McCain certainly has no problem pushing buttons on a telephone since that is his motus operandi. If he can do that, certainly he could use a Blackberry for email since it uses the same fine motor skills as using a cell phone.

And don't blah blah about his disability getting in the way. Throughout my career in Special Education I've come across many kids and young adults who use assistive technology devices to help with computer and communication skills -- People with cerebral palsy who have absolutely no use of their arms and can't speak, but can communicate with computers and technology.

There are companies like ability hub http://abilityhub.com/ who design mouse and keyboard alternatives. Or companies like abilitynet http://www.abilitynet.org.uk/ who
help people with disabilities utilize computers and other forms of technology. There's also speech recognition programs that one can use and doesn't even have to touch a keyboard. However, many people with disabilities don't have the financial resources that McCain has to connect with the technology. Many programs to help people with disabilities are cut out of the budget by conservatives, but now you are trying to use this as an excuse?

He's just like your typical grandpa who doesn't need/want a computer. But McCain wants to be the leader of our country without any technology skills. Now that's scary!!!

 

[DISUNC]

didn't we already nominate you on another thread?

I remeber Evil Genius was running for Pres....UNTIL THE SCANDAL!!!

(i just made the Scandal thing up for Fun)

 

[#1hockeymom]

Have you ever heard of the term "universal design?" Look it up. We have students at our university majoring in computer science with severe multiple disabilities.

McCain certainly has no problem pushing buttons on a telephone since that is his motus operandi. If he can do that, certainly he could use a Blackberry for email since it uses the same fine motor skills as using a cell phone.

And don't blah blah about his disability getting in the way. Throughout my career in Special Education I've come across many kids and young adults who use assistive technology devices to help with computer and communication skills -- People with cerebral palsy who have absolutely no use of their arms and can't speak, but can communicate with computers and technology.

There are companies like ability hub http://abilityhub.com/ who design mouse and keyboard alternatives. Or companies like abilitynet http://www.abilitynet.org.uk/ who
help people with disabilities utilize computers and other forms of technology. There's also speech recognition programs that one can use and doesn't even have to touch a keyboard. However, many people with disabilities don't have the financial resources that McCain has to connect with the technology. Many programs to help people with disabilities are cut out of the budget by conservatives, but now you are trying to use this as an excuse?

He's just like your typical grandpa who doesn't need/want a computer. But McCain wants to be the leader of our country with any technology skills. Now that's scary!!!

Give me one good reason why he needs this skill to be the POTUS? He doesn't!

 

[TLSnell1981]

Obama is slinging all the mud he can....hoping something sticks.... He even has the democrats....that are running for re-election.... distancing themselves from him. The generic numbers are a statistical dead heat.

Methinks the internals are looking worse than what we are privy to.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

From a commenter at instapundit.com, but I wish I'd said it myself:

"I think they spent months trying to figure out how they can position Obama as better qualified than McCain, and basically came up with the fact that Obama can type."

Best post of the day!

 

[LaraK]

Well now, this article makes the discussion even more interesting. I guess if committee assignments make Obama an expert on foreign relations, McCain is an expert in technology.

In certain ways, McCain was a natural Web candidate. Chairman of the Senate Telecommunications Subcommittee and regarded as the U.S. Senate's savviest technologist, McCain is an inveterate devotee of email. His nightly ritual is to read his email together with his wife, Cindy. The injuries he incurred as a Vietnam POW make it painful for McCain to type. Instead, he dictates responses that his wife types on a laptop. "She's a whiz on the keyboard, and I'm so laborious," McCain admits.

Source (and yes, I admit that this one is from 2000 too)
http://www.forbes.com/asap/2000/0529/053_print.html

 

[smartestnumber5]

I think from a voter block perspective the older generation is one you don't want to piss off. You may endear yourself to a younger crowd, but the college age group is one that notoriously is sketchy about showing up come election day. Older people show up, it's true look at any voter polls.

I guess I just don't think older people are going to be offended by this.

It was an ongoing joke for us that my grandfather had trouble using a computer (especially the porn pop-ups). My 82 year old grandmother doesn't know how to use a computer at all--and I don't think she would be at all offended by the implication that someone who is running for president should know how to use one. My aunt is in her early 60s and is only semi-computer literate. Again, we make jokes about this which she herself joins in on.

My aunt and grandmother are retirees so they don't find any particular need to be computer literate. If McCain were a retiree, they probably wouldn't think that he had any need to be either. But since he's not a retiree, my guess is that it is not at all comforting for them to think "gee, he probably can't manage to make the VCR work either...and he's going to be 'the leader of the free world.'"

 

[amyhughes]

I guess I just don't think older people are going to be offended by this.

It was an ongoing joke for us that my grandfather had trouble using a computer (especially the porn pop-ups). My 82 year old grandmother doesn't know how to use a computer at all--and I don't think she would be at all offended by the implication that someone who is running for president should know how to use one. My aunt is in her early 60s and is only semi-computer literate. Again, we make jokes about this which she herself joins in on.

My aunt and grandmother are retirees so they don't find any particular need to be computer literate. If McCain were a retiree, they probably wouldn't think that he had any need to be either. But since he's not a retiree, my guess is that it is not at all comforting for them to think "gee, he probably can't manage to make the VCR work either...and he's going to be 'the leader of the free world.'"

I think by insinuating that if you aren't fully computer literate then you are "out of touch" might be a bit insulting to a few of the older generation I know.

 

[smartestnumber5]

Well now, this article makes the discussion even more interesting. I guess if committee assignments make Obama an expert on foreign relations, McCain is an expert in technology.



Source (and yes, I admit that this one is from 2000 too)
http://www.forbes.com/asap/2000/0529/053_print.html

How odd. So in 2000 he was a devotee to email and in 2008 he acted as if he has no use for it and doesn't even understand computers.

I don't get it.

 

[loco4dis]

I gotta say, a whole bunch of folks here tonight are trying real hard to put, ummm, some lipstick on this pig…

 

[IDoDis]

Give me one good reason why he needs this skill to be the POTUS? He doesn't!

If you didn't know how to use a computer you would be so disconnected from the world. You are using a computer righ now. Imagine that! Well, I guess people who can't think for themselves wouldn't need to bother, now would they -- even the POTUS.

 

[WonderfulDreamer2]

I guess I just don't think older people are going to be offended by this.
It was an ongoing joke for us that my grandfather had trouble using a computer (especially the porn pop-ups). My 82 year old grandmother doesn't know how to use a computer at all--and I don't think she would be at all offended by the implication that someone who is running for president should know how to use one. My aunt is in her early 60s and is only semi-computer literate. Again, we make jokes about this which she herself joins in on.

My aunt and grandmother are retirees so they don't find any particular need to be computer literate. If McCain were a retiree, they probably wouldn't think that he had any need to be either. But since he's not a retiree, my guess is that it is not at all comforting for them to think "gee, he probably can't manage to make the VCR work either...and he's going to be 'the leader of the free world.'"

Hope that "guess" works out for ya.

 

[LaraK]

How odd. So in 2000 he was a devotee to email and in 2008 he acted as if he has no use for it and doesn't even understand computers.

I don't get it.

The article indicated that he read the e-mail, but that his wife sent e-mail out. The primary focus (for anyone who doesn't want to follow the link) was the impact of grass roots web-based fundraising in politics...aparently the McCain camp was pretty good at it in 2000...since Google was only launched in 1998, technology was a big topic from what I could see.

 

[WonderfulDreamer2]

If you didn't know how to use a computer you would be so disconnected from the world. You are using a computer righ now. Imagine that! Well, I guess people who can't think for themselves wouldn't need to bother, now would they -- even the POTUS.

Yeah....I'm pretty sure he will be pretty darn well connected to the world. It's not as if he's alone in the Oval office trying to Google what Russia's up to. I'm thinking he'll fair just fine. Now if Obama can just figure out what this "google" thing is.