Is there a 'general rule' on how the DDP works..

[Pluto777]

-in places like trattoria-al-forno? Or a sushi place? What I mean is, not all menus have 1 app, 1 entre & 1 desert, so how can a person know ahead of time how the DDP works in a particular place? Maybe it should be on the WDW official website and not just say '1 credit', but they could write the specific rules for that particular restaurant and how the credit is to be applied in THAT particular place - or is this already being done and I just haven't seen the link?

 

[Pumbaa_]

Ddp does not have appetizer option

What is the real question here? Most menus are grouped according to app, entree, dessert.

 

[Pluto777]

Ddp does not have appetizer option

What is the real question here? Most menus are grouped according to app, entree, dessert.

Oops, I meant Disney DELUXE Dining plan. And yes, I know what the deluxe includes when menus are grouped in that way, my question is how does the delux plan work when they are NOT (like at many EPCOT places). Thanks.

 

[Minnie17]

The deluxe dining plan does include an appetizer. Many places have sushi in a separate category than appetizers. Some also have soup and salad in a separate category. The OP has a good question.

 

[DISbot]

I'm not sure I totally understand the original question. Trattoria-Al-Forno for breakfast is fixed, and you choose one entree. For Dinner, it has apps (Antipasti), Entrees (Pizza and Secondi Piatti), and Desserts (Dolci). Enhancements are not covered by the dining plans.

There is some gray area when it comes to appetizers (you should be able to get a salad or soup most places instead of an appetizer), there is the occasional entree that is an upcharge (wagu steaks etc - anything way off the price charts compared to other things), and sometimes "desserts" can double as a drink (in the case of a milkshake, it can often count as a drink and you can get a dessert, or it can count as dessert and you can also get a drink).

Beyond that it's pretty clear cut. Sides, Enhancements, and extras don't count for the plan, and generally any "app" replacements beyond soup and salad are up to the restaurant/server.

 

[sharonabe]

-in places like trattoria-al-forno? Or a sushi place? What I mean is, not all menus have 1 app, 1 entre & 1 desert, so how can a person know ahead of time how the DDP works in a particular place? Maybe it should be on the WDW official website and not just say '1 credit', but they could write the specific rules for that particular restaurant and how the credit is to be applied in THAT particular place - or is this already being done and I just haven't seen the link?

There is no such list that I know of, but if there is some place in particular you're wondering about, just ask about that place. There's plenty of experience here that should give you an answer.

 

[Pluto777]

The deluxe dining plan does include an appetizer. Many places have sushi in a separate category than appetizers. Some also have soup and salad in a separate category. The OP has a good question.

You better believe it; anyone ever seen the menu for dinner at Yak N Yeti? How can anyone on the DXDP possibly figure out what is, and is not allowed? There are SEVEN menu categories by my count - plus "sides". I have N IDEA what we are and are not permitted to order on the DXDP

 

[DISbot]

You better believe it; anyone ever seen the menu for dinner at Yak N Yeti? How can anyone on the DXDP possibly figure out what is, and is not allowed? There are SEVEN menu categories by my count - plus "sides". I have N IDEA what we are and are not permitted to order on the DXDP

Not sure what makes it confusing still.

Small plates are apps for 1, sharables are apps for 2 (so would require two meal credits), as stated before soups and salads should also count for the app.

Noodles & bowls, specialities, wok, and grilled are all in the $17-$30 range and looking at them are main dishes, so they count as entrees.

Sides never count on the dining plan.

Desserts are desserts, and any drink can count as a beverage.

 

[Pluto777]

Not sure what makes it confusing still.

Small plates are apps for 1, sharables are apps for 2 (so would require two meal credits), as stated before soups and salads should also count for the app.

Noodles & bowls, specialities, wok, and grilled are all in the $17-$30 range and looking at them are main dishes, so they count as entrees.

Sides never count on the dining plan.

Desserts are desserts, and any drink can count as a beverage.

I do appreciate the help, but I still disagree that this is 100% clear:
We see 7 categories:
'small plates'
'shareables meant for 2'
'soups n salads'
'noodles & bowls'
'specialties'
'wok'
'grilled'
plus sides, drinks deserts.
Drinks, deserts & kids entrees are obvious, however how can you be sure that just because the price point of $17-30 is there that is necessarily an entree? There are also 'soups and salads' at $16.99 and $17.99 like
"Kale Caesar Salad with Cilantro-Lime Seared Shrimp" so are you certain that is considered just an appetizer?

This is just one restaurant. There are others in World Showcase that are unclear as well. My solution is a simple one, why not require all restaurants on the DP to state clearly what qualifies as what (or have some website link that does) so you know what is and isn't on the list beforehand?

 

[DISbot]

I do appreciate the help, but I still disagree that this is 100% clear:
We see 7 categories:
'small plates'
'shareables meant for 2'
'soups n salads'
'noodles & bowls'
'specialties'
'wok'
'grilled'
plus sides, drinks deserts.
Drinks, deserts & kids entrees are obvious, however how can you be sure that just because the price point of $17-30 is there that is necessarily an entree? There are also 'soups and salads' at $16.99 and $17.99 like
"Kale Caesar Salad with Cilantro-Lime Seared Shrimp" so are you certain that is considered just an appetizer?

This is just one restaurant. There are others in World Showcase that are unclear as well. My solution is a simple one, why not require all restaurants on the DP to state clearly what qualifies as what (or have some website link that does) so you know what is and isn't on the list beforehand?

The problem is that many of these restaurants you are talking about are the ones that aren't run by Disney, so Disney can't dictate how they structure their menus (or they might just back out of participating in the plan). As far as a "general rule" which is what you first asked for, that's in my first post. There are exceptions to every rule of course.

Additionally, Disney does not offer the dining plan because they want people to save money, do there is no incentive for them to make pre-planning easier for people. When you get to the restaurant your waiter will happily explain what is and isn't included.

 

[6disneykids]

While I do know its difficult to plan a head of time, but once you check in and arrive, you will either be provided a lits or can ask for one that shows you all your entielments and where you can use them. We have done the deluxe dining plan befrore and did many of the meals listed as 2 credits. I often refer to menu list from a non Disney sites

 

[Nancyg56]

I do appreciate the help, but I still disagree that this is 100% clear:
We see 7 categories:
'small plates'
'shareables meant for 2'
'soups n salads'
'noodles & bowls'
'specialties'
'wok'
'grilled'
plus sides, drinks deserts.
Drinks, deserts & kids entrees are obvious, however how can you be sure that just because the price point of $17-30 is there that is necessarily an entree? There are also 'soups and salads' at $16.99 and $17.99 like
"Kale Caesar Salad with Cilantro-Lime Seared Shrimp" so are you certain that is considered just an appetizer?

This is just one restaurant. There are others in World Showcase that are unclear as well. My solution is a simple one, why not require all restaurants on the DP to state clearly what qualifies as what (or have some website link that does) so you know what is and isn't on the list beforehand?

Okay, you are over thinking this. Look at a menu, any menu. There are starters, entrees and desserts. Every restaurant may entitle these differently depending on the cuisine, but this is indeed the breakdown. If a salad is an entrée salad it will be an entrée on the DDP. A house salad or salad that is listed in the Starter area is appetizer. If you have questions when it s time to order, just ask the server.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

Okay, you are over thinking this. Look at a menu, any menu. There are starters, entrees and desserts.

This isn't true though. Lots of menus aren't broken down that way. Look at Morimoto, for example. They have about 10 different categories. None are "entree". So what does a sushi roll count as? Appetizer? Entree?

 

[sharonabe]

I guess the "GENERAL RULE" is that you will have to ask at the restaurant what is included.

Honestly, that's probably the best any of us can do. Each non-Disney restaurant decides how they will treat DDP credits. Disney only pays them according to the plan parameters, whatever those are. I think 90% of the restaurants' menus are fairly easy to decipher. For that 10% that isn't, even if you get someone else's experience, that might not be what happens when you're there. So the best general rule of thumb is to ask when you get there. You never know when you may be pixie dusted with something no one else has ever gotten.

 

[Nancyg56]

This isn't true though. Lots of menus aren't broken down that way. Look at Morimoto, for example. They have about 10 different categories. None are "entree". So what does a sushi roll count as? Appetizer? Entree?

I understand. As @sharonabe suggested above, most restaurants in wdw are fairly consistent and most of the few that are not can still be deciphered. However.... if there are still yet some that cannot be, the guest can decide to take a leap of faith that there will be something on the menu that is covered on the plan, or choose a restaurant that will most likely have no surprises.

 

[Pluto777]

I understand. As @sharonabe suggested above, most restaurants in wdw are fairly consistent and most of the few that are not can still be deciphered. However.... if there are still yet some that cannot be, the guest can decide to take a leap of faith that there will be something on the menu that is covered on the plan, or choose a restaurant that will most likely have no surprises.

Another one I like, but am completely unsure of, Teppan Edo... Does anyone know how that menu works with the plan?

 

[DISbot]

Another one I like, but am completely unsure of, Teppan Edo... Does anyone know how that menu works with the plan?

Apps are apps.
Sushi may or may not count as an app (that would be the one unknown)
Entrees and combinations are entrees
Entree add ons aren't included in the plan
Dessert is dessert
All drinks should count as drinks (assuming legal drinking age) except for flights or anything more than one serving. It is possible there are other alcoholic drinks excluded but not guaranteed

 

[pangyal]

We were told no each time to sushi for the appetizer on DxDP at Teppan Edo.

 

[Pluto777]

Apps are apps.
Sushi may or may not count as an app (that would be the one unknown)
Entrees and combinations are entrees
Entree add ons aren't included in the plan
Dessert is dessert
All drinks should count as drinks (assuming legal drinking age) except for flights or anything more than one serving. It is possible there are other alcoholic drinks excluded but not guaranteed

There is not one item on that menu listed as an "entree"; in fact there is no entree listings at all.

 

[DISbot]

There is not one item on that menu listed as an "entree"; in fact there is no entree listings at all.

Make sure you are looking at the disney menus for categories. https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/epcot/teppan-edo/menus/