Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[Welsh_Dragon]

Give me a break! If life were only that simple. Yes, people fall in love. Some of them never marry. Heck some of them never even tell the other person they are in love with them.

Love or not, before marrying into the Royal Family (her father in law is going to be King of England for goodness sakes) it seems to me some careful reflection should have been done to understand all that is involved. Like it or not, this relationship is more complicated because of who he is.

And don't lose sight of the fact Charles is still giving them a large sum of money every year for their expenses. She must not have a problem with that part of marrying into the family.

And think what you want, I don't hate Meghan. But making excuses for her being some innocent, naïve, delicate little lady is crazy too. I do not believe for ONE SECOND she did not know who Harry was.

ETA: I also don't believe she was scheming to marry him for years. But some of the assumptions is the other direction are just as out there, in my opinion.

Hmmmm.... back to the history books for you.

 

[luvsJack]

Again, I only remember her saying she didn't know much about him; not that she didn't know who he was. And guess what? People think they might know a lot about this guy, but they really don't.

Oh so now you remember her saying something different entirely but have been defending the possibility of her not knowing him at all.

https://www.ibtimes.com/meghan-mark...y-was-2805515 More info about AMP ibtimes.com

What she said was that because she is American she didn’t know much about the royal family and what a big deal Harry is/was. Sorry, still calling BS.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Because it keeps getting thrown around here, I just looked up Meghan’s supposed claim that she didn’t know who Harry was prior to meeting him. In the interview, she says she “didn’t know much” about him when her friend set them up on a blind date. That’s very different than saying she didn’t know who he was at all, as some here are making it sound.

I’m a year older than Meghan and I would’ve been in a position to answer similarly. Harry and William first hit my radar following their mother’s death when I watched them walk behind her casket. The next time I heard about them was when Harry dressed up as a Nazi and partied naked in Vegas, followed by William’s wedding. Outside of those events they haven’t really been newsworthy enough to seep into my daily life. I’ve learned more about them and the Royal Family over the last couple of years because of DIS threads, but I could still truthfully claim not to know “much” about the Royals. When all that stuff about Andrew kicked up a couple of months ago I had to google who he was. I know very little about the family tree outside of the Queen, Charles, W/K, and H/M.

The picture of her in front of Buckingham Palace proves very little as far as I’m concerned. I also have pictures of myself standing in front of Buckingham Palace (on two separate occasions, years apart) but like I said, I knew very little about the Royal Family until very recently. Actually, I have a picture of myself and some friends, as teens, standing on the White House porch after we had apparently been given a private tour. I say “apparently” because I have absolutely no recollection of ever being there. A private tour of the White House with my friends didn’t make enough of an impression for me to even remember it happened. A picture of her in front of the palace is hardly evidence of her playing the long game to land herself a prince.

Or maybe she’s been secretly obsessed with them her whole life and is lying, who knows. We’ll all see how things turn out eventually.

 

[Boardwalk Jedi]

Oh so now you remember her saying something different entirely but have been defending the possibility of her not knowing him at all.

https://www.ibtimes.com/meghan-mark...y-was-2805515 More info about AMP ibtimes.com

What she said was that because she is American she didn’t know much about the royal family and what a big deal Harry is/was. Sorry, still calling BS.

Uh no...because she never said that in the first place. I'll admit it took me a while to figure where you got that idea. And yes, it's possible to not understand the big deal of the Royal Family. They are strictly ceremonial and until Katie and Meghan came around were generating very little interest. If you think it's a big deal...well, ok.

 

[luvsJack]

Uh no...because she never said that in the first place. I'll admit it took me a while to figure where you got that idea. And yes, it's possible to not understand the big deal of the Royal Family. They are strictly ceremonial and until Katie and Meghan came around were generating very little interest. If you think it's a big deal...well, ok.

I didn’t say it was a big deal. I said she said she didn’t know he was a big deal.

I could understand if she said she didn’t know much about him personally. None of us do. That makes sense. But to basically say that you don’t know he is a big deal or the royals are a big deal when she idolized his mother according to her own close friend is a bit out there.

And you never said you were confused by anyone here saying that she said she didn’t know him. You came up with several excuses as to why she didn’t know him. Like at all.

 

[luvsJack]

She was set up on a blind date by a mutual friend with a guy named Harry. I'm assuming once she met him she knew who he was. She did not search him out and somehow trap a poor vulnerable boy unwise in the ways of love.

No one said she trapped him or that he was unwise or vulnerable. But I don’t think she is the sweet little victim of the British press that some want to make her out to be either.

 

[Disney Doll]

I’m also unsure how one could live in Canada for a number of years which is part of the Commonwealth and not know much about the RF.

But it seems to have been worked out. Hopefully this move will give them the peace and privacy they desire, but I doubt it. Pictures of them are going to be more valuable now. Ultimately, they’d have probably been better off staying in the protective bubble of the RF.

 

[Boardwalk Jedi]

I didn’t say it was a big deal. I said she said she didn’t know he was a big deal.

I could understand if she said she didn’t know much about him personally. None of us do. That makes sense. But to basically say that you don’t know he is a big deal or the royals are a big deal when she idolized his mother according to her own close friend is a bit out there.

And you never said you were confused by anyone here saying that she said she didn’t know him. You came up with several excuses as to why she didn’t know him. Like at all.

Why would I? I answered about the quote I knew of...you know, apparently it was the correct one. Nice try.

 

[AustinTink]

Meghan's friends from high school have said she was obsessed with Diana. How can someone be obsessed with Diana and not "know much" about Harry. I haven't believed that song and dance since she first spoke the words in that televised engagement interview. There is something so disingenuous about her. Maybe it's because she's an actress, maybe because she's a social climber. Whatever it is, I just have a hard time taking her seriously. That being said, Harry has always been the flaky brother. He always leaned toward celebrity types and their lifestyle. It has only been just recently that he settled down a bit with his stint in the army and his various causes.

I think he will enjoy living the mid-level celebrity lifestyle with Meghan. They will both find work in the entertainment industry easily. I don't smell a divorce on the horizon. Honestly, they are a pretty good match. As long as they aren't living off the British people going forward, who cares? People say she is ripping him away from his family but I suspect they are not all that close to begin with.

 

[Boardwalk Jedi]

No one said she trapped him or that he was unwise or vulnerable. But I don’t think she is the sweet little victim of the British press that some want to make her out to be either.

Read the comments in the DM today alone. The woman can't do anything right and the queen is only being nice because "she has to" according to those busy body whack jobs.

 

[Boardwalk Jedi]

Meghan's friends from high school have said she was obsessed with Diana. How can someone be obsessed with Diana and not "know much" about Harry. I haven't believed that song and dance since she first spoke the words in that televised engagement interview. There is something so disingenuous about her. Maybe it's because she's an actress, maybe because she's a social climber. Whatever it is, I just have a hard time taking her seriously. That being said, Harry has always been the flaky brother. He always leaned toward celebrity types and their lifestyle. It has only been just recently that he settled down a bit with his stint in the army and his various causes.

I think he will enjoy living the mid-level celebrity lifestyle with Meghan. They will both find work in the entertainment industry easily. I don't smell a divorce on the horizon. Honestly, they are a pretty good match. As long as they aren't living off the British people going forward, who cares? People say she is ripping him away from his family but I suspect they are not all that close to begin with.

Are there quotes about her obsession with Princess Diana anywhere? I'm trying to find anything and the only stuff coming up are anonymous sources and that MM watched Diana's wedding....when she would have been about two years old.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

She was set up on a blind date by a mutual friend with a guy named Harry. I'm assuming once she met him she knew who he was. She did not search him out and somehow trap a poor vulnerable boy unwise in the ways of love.

That’s how I’ve always interpreted her comments on not knowing him. I assumed her friends told her they were setting her up with someone named Harry and she didn’t know he was THE prince Harry. So she asked about him (is he kind, what’s he like, etc) and once she met him she knew he was THE prince Harry.

 

[AustinTink]

Are there quotes about her obsession with Princess Diana anywhere? I'm trying to find anything and the only stuff coming up are anonymous sources and that MM watched Diana's wedding....when she would have been about two years old.

I did a quick search and found this interview with her best friend from childhood.
Here is a quote, "I know the Royal Family was something she found fascinating. She had one of Princess Diana’s books [Diana: Her True Story] on her bookshelf, and even when she was with Trevor she told me she wanted to go and stay in London for at least a month.

‘I can’t remember exactly when this was, but she was married to Trevor and starring in Suits. She mentioned about wanting to go to London a couple of times."

It's from the Daily Mail, but whatever. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137785/Meghan-Markle-revelations-friend-knew-best.html

 

[Boardwalk Jedi]

I did a quick search and found this interview with her best friend from childhood.
Here is a quote, "I know the Royal Family was something she found fascinating. She had one of Princess Diana’s books [Diana: Her True Story] on her bookshelf, and even when she was with Trevor she told me she wanted to go and stay in London for at least a month.

‘I can’t remember exactly when this was, but she was married to Trevor and starring in Suits. She mentioned about wanting to go to London a couple of times."

It's from the Daily Mail, but whatever. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137785/Meghan-Markle-revelations-friend-knew-best.html

I went and found the girl. Ninati something...sounds about as bitter and credible as Samantha Markle. OMG she read a book on a historical figure and wanted to visit a famous city. That makes her up to something?!

 

[AustinTink]

I went and found the girl. Ninati something...sounds about as bitter and credible as Samantha Markle. OMG she read a book on a historical figure and wanted to visit a famous city. That makes her up to something?!

I don't know about bitter. Seems like they were best friends for decades and one dropped the other when she became famous. I'd be hurt by that, too. I haven't followed this whole thread, so I don't know everyone's standpoints. I assume you are pro-Meghan. That's fine. I'm not pro or con really, I just think they are two peas in a pod. Both into the celebrity lifestyle so to speak.

 

[luvsJack]

Why would I? I answered about the quote I knew of...you know, apparently it was the correct one. Nice try.

What? You were quoting people here and coming up with all kinds of excuses about why she may not know who he is.

I fully admit that I was wrong about what she said. It was something I heard or read way back when they got married. Like I said, read or hear this stuff in passing.

But you are saying you knew I was wrong about the quote and continued to defend why she wouldn’t have known who he was. That doesn’t make sense.

 

[luvsJack]

I went and found the girl. Ninati something...sounds about as bitter and credible as Samantha Markle. OMG she read a book on a historical figure and wanted to visit a famous city. That makes her up to something?!

So another person making poor Meghan a victim? Seriously? Why are you so vehement in defending her?

I mean I don’t think she is the big bad gold digger that is taking Harry away from his family. I do think she may be more calculating than you think she is.

And I don’t think Harry is a victim either. Maybe this will make them both very happy but maybe not.

 

[Boardwalk Jedi]

So another person making poor Meghan a victim? Seriously? Why are you so vehement in defending her?

I mean I don’t think she is the big bad gold digger that is taking Harry away from his family. I do think she may be more calculating than you think she is.

And I don’t think Harry is a victim either. Maybe this will make them both very happy but maybe not.

Because the vigorous assumptions about her are really bizarre.

 

[Boardwalk Jedi]

I don't know about bitter. Seems like they were best friends for decades and one dropped the other when she became famous. I'd be hurt by that, too. I haven't followed this whole thread, so I don't know everyone's standpoints. I assume you are pro-Meghan. That's fine. I'm not pro or con really, I just think they are two peas in a pod. Both into the celebrity lifestyle so to speak.

I see your point. As for me being pro-Meghan, I'm not so sure if it's that as much as it is anti-busy body bullies.

 

[Imzadi]

There are a lot of people on this side of the pond, and around the world, in fact, who enjoy watching and learning about the RF. It’s a hobby of sorts.

Speaking of which, where has @Imzadi been on this thread??

Unfortunately, I've been busy and haven't been able to keep up with what's been going on. A while ago, I had to Google even what the OP was about. And by the time I get around to watching TMZ, which is a couple days later, this thread has advanced forward by several page each time. I hate posting to a thread not knowing whats already been covered or not. And I hate not knowing the full scoop or how accurate the info is we've been reading.


BTW, I don't know if anyone else has said this yet: TMZ is going to have a 2 hour(?) TMZ Special on Harry & Megan in a couple weeks. Something like Wed, Jan 29, in the evening. They said so much has been going on and is going on, that it's taking TMZ that long to put the special together.

Since TMZ is pretty good on getting the full scoop on stuff and being accurate, I may wait till I see the special before jumping in & posting my thoughts & opinions.