Interesting article

[Kim1964]

I was reading a story about Real ID, and on the same page there were links to other popular stories and this one caught my eye. I'm not posting it for a debate, just thought it was an interesting read:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...12,0,2021590.story?page=1&coll=la-home-center

 

[lovingthemouse]

Hey Kim - thank you for that article - I did enjoy reading it. If that lady was truly aware of the rules ahead of time, then the final decision of the magazine was correct.
Some of those reactions were pretty nasty though.

 

[AlexWyattMommy]

I'm not sure I get it. She told the magazine that the photo wasn't hers, why didn't they do something right then and there? That is THEIR mistake, not hers.

So now you all know why I don't have a myspace, or blog or post most of what I make. I am not thick skinned. I would wilt at such harsh reactions. I can't take it, so I don't dish it out either.

 

[PrincessNancy96]

I'm not sure I get it. She told the magazine that the photo wasn't hers, why didn't they do something right then and there? That is THEIR mistake, not hers.

So now you all know why I don't have a myspace, or blog or post most of what I make. I am not thick skinned. I would wilt at such harsh reactions. I can't take it, so I don't dish it out either.

AWM, that is the same reason I don't have a blog.. I'd be hurt by that type of remark... At least here I know any statement is constructive cristicism and meant to be helpful and not hurtful w/ name calling and such.... I may not agree but I can go talk to myself about it instead of hurling insults....

 

[ddavis860]

I'm not sure I get it. She told the magazine that the photo wasn't hers, why didn't they do something right then and there? That is THEIR mistake, not hers.

So now you all know why I don't have a myspace, or blog or post most of what I make. I am not thick skinned. I would wilt at such harsh reactions. I can't take it, so I don't dish it out either.

I was thinking the same thing...how is it her fault? Magazine is at fault...

And I don't have a very thick skin either, and the dumbest things will bother me for a long long time... My mom always said I was too sensitive

But, ya know, I always feel you guys phrase a comment in the way that it is taken well. This DIS board is so great!! You all are the BEST!!!

 

[BernardandMissBianca]

I was reading the boards at 2 peas and CK when all of this went down.
I feel that as a seasoned scrapper and contest enterer she should have known the rules. However, when she called to tell CK that the pic was someone elses, the ball was in their court. their employee should have verified the rules before going to print. She was also not the only one who "broke the rules", just the one who was used to set an example.

The way I see it, is they are just scrapbooks, people get so hung up on the whole publicity thing, they make such a big deal about being published and being the next "star". It totally turns me off. And then there are people waiting in the wings to dig their claws in and tear you to shreds.


My motto:
Your life should not revolve around your scrapbooks, your scrapbooks should revolve around your life.

 

[mommy2mrb]

I was reading the boards at 2 peas and CK when all of this went down.
I feel that as a seasoned scrapper and contest enterer she should have known the rules. However, when she called to tell CK that the pic was someone elses, the ball was in their court. their employee should have verified the rules before going to print. She was also not the only one who "broke the rules", just the one who was used to set an example.

The way I see it, is they are just scrapbooks, people get so hung up on the whole publicity thing, they make such a big deal about being published and being the next "star". It totally turns me off. And then there are people waiting in the wings to dig their claws in and tear you to shreds.


My motto:
Your life should not revolve around your scrapbooks, your scrapbooks should revolve around your life.

GREAT Motto! Buffy!! I agreed totally!

I would never enter anything either, seems like everyone dropped the ball on this one!

 

[BernardandMissBianca]

Thanks Lisa!

 

[TPCShauna]

I love that motto, BAMB!

Scrapping is an outlet for me. I have lots of hobbies. I knit and cross-stitch items for other people as gifts, but never for myself. I cook and bake and can things for others. I even occasionally make scrappy gifts for others although I spend most scrapping time on my own things.

The whole "I've been published" thing makes me nauseous. I scrap for myself. These are moments in time that I have experienced that I want to capture and enjoy. Others are welcome to look at them but I don't really care if they like them or not. Compliments are nice but I'm the only one who has to like my scrapping at the end of the day.

I went to a crop once with a new group. This was the first time several of us had met the planners who were all friends. I arrived, set my stuff up and started working on my pages. Shortly after, one of the hostesses wandered over to introduce herself and look at my stuff. After giving me her name and affiliation with the group, the first words out of her mouth were, "I've been published in this, that and the other magazine. What about you?" My honest reply was that I had never heard of the magazines and would never submit my work to one anyway. She said that magazines were the only way to be "recognized" and we were all just playing if we didn't try to get our work into them. Needless to say, I never went back.

I really think some people scrap for the wrong reasons. It doesn't surprise me when stuff like that in the article happens because some are just out to be recognized for their "art".

 

[hegs65]

Umm, okay. I have just here and now discovered how naive I am and that I am a totally immoral person. I quess I just don't think I get it. I am actually shocked that something so silly could cause such a ruckus. I get the fact that a rule was broken but she told CK. They should have done something there and then not after that fact. This is so silly. It just goes to show how small people are. It's all about jealousy. The real kicker in the story for me and here is where my true lack of morals comes in...

"One person condemned Contes' lack of shame, admitting that she, too, had entered a contest once, and later realized she had broken the rules. "For about 10 minutes I kept thinking 'Don't worry about it, nobody's gonna know,' " she wrote. "But then I thought 'You and GOD are going to know.' " She withdrew from the contest so her children would still be able to look her in the eye, and then "proceeded to cry for about 3 days."

Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!? I mean, I am all for holding yourself to a higher standard but come on! Seriously, it's a scrapbooking contest! I can think of a milliion more things to be concerned about than this. Imagine how this poor person is when a real crisis arises. Yikes! Having said all this, I have never entered and nor will I ever enter any submissions to any publishers. I do scrapping for fun-period. Just my 2 cents... Patty

 

[lovingthemouse]

I'm totally in agreement about contests or submissions to be viewed by many. My pages reflect me, and my life - something to be shared by my family and friends. What I scrap does not have the same meaning to anyone else, therefore it lacks the emotions I had while creating it.
I do enjoy coming on here and reading others' thoughts and suggestions - sure has helped me out in a few instances. Thanks for being here. Caroline

 

[Twigs]

I was reading the boards at 2 peas and CK when all of this went down.
I feel that as a seasoned scrapper and contest enterer she should have known the rules. However, when she called to tell CK that the pic was someone elses, the ball was in their court. their employee should have verified the rules before going to print. She was also not the only one who "broke the rules", just the one who was used to set an example.

The way I see it, is they are just scrapbooks, people get so hung up on the whole publicity thing, they make such a big deal about being published and being the next "star". It totally turns me off. And then there are people waiting in the wings to dig their claws in and tear you to shreds.


My motto:
Your life should not revolve around your scrapbooks, your scrapbooks should revolve around your life.

Well said!!! And I love your motto.

 

[AlexWyattMommy]

My motto:
Your life should not revolve around your scrapbooks, your scrapbooks should revolve around your life.

Not that I've scrapped much, but seriously, the last thing I'll be thinking about is having my stuff published.

I like looking at other's people stuff because I think it is pretty or cool or something I might want to try, but I do NOT like something just because someone who might be famous to whoever made it.

 

[Wishes2you]

I too have always done many different crafts. Some things made for myself but mostly made for others. I just read this article as well. I feel that what I scrapbook should make me happy and remind me of special times. It is always nice to hear that someone else likes them, but I feel it is for me to like and not need the approval of others. I am farely new at it and my pages are no where near good enough to be published and that's just fine. To me that is not the point of what I am creating. I find I am happier with my pages the more that I do, and I do love to look at others pages to see different techniques that they use. It inspires me to try new things.

 

[MazdaUK]

Some people can be really unbalanced! (Although I have to say i didn't like the article - this stuff is important to a lot of people and I found the tone dismissive of all scrappers! I wonder what would happen if they used the same tone about, say, hunting? Just IMHO)

Over here, although scrapping is groing, we tend to be a bit spread out. So though I have my tiny circle if i want an informed opinion of my stuff, or ideas on technique or content, I'll come here. But I only put my layouts on the SWSI threads (because its a condition). I do them for me, and my family. So as long as I like them-or even if I don't! - that's that. I never claim to be an artist or an expert, I do what I can with what i have and try to make sure when I'm too gaga to tell people embarrassing stories of my sons then the scrapboks wil be there to do it for me

Oh well!

 

[Raenstoirm]

I gotta say, this article made me a little ill. I was first published at 16 (in writing not scrap-booking and in a hardcover book no less). At 16 I was on top of the world, but as an adult I simply say, "yeah I can write and...." Go me! I mean honestly, like that makes me any better than anyone else! It does not affect my day to day life. I have better things to think about (like laundry ) . I have not submitted any work since I was 20 or so and quite honestly haven't written anything real in the last few years. I write poems for family (I gave one to my mom for Christmas) and I will occasionally write one for a special scrap page, but thats it.
It would be awesome to get a scrap page published someday, but if "they" (who ever they may be) don't like it, I wont be crushed. As an adult my self worth is not based on others opinions of me. To think there are some people with such low self-esteem to cry over a contest (or make such a fuss because a girl "cheated") just makes me ill. What a sad life they lead.