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New to DVC and still on the learning curve. Can anyone tell me, for one $95 search fee, how many places and weeks can I search for? For example, can I put in a search for several places for say, December 08, and several places for December 09 and get a match for both years? Or would I have to do different transactions/searches?

Thanks for all the wisdom
 
New to DVC and still on the learning curve. Can anyone tell me, for one $95 search fee, how many places and weeks can I search for? For example, can I put in a search for several places for say, December 08, and several places for December 09 and get a match for both years? Or would I have to do different transactions/searches?

Thanks for all the wisdom
The limit used to be 64 choices as a combo of weeks and resorts. For example it could be 64 resorts for one week or 64 weeks at one resort. This was a computer limitation and I'm pretty sure it's been expanded but I don't know to how much. But once you get ONE exchange, that is done. You can't do one search and get two exchanges. If you truly want something both years I'd do two exchange requests. You'll get your money back if you cancel without a match or not match ever occurs.
 
Thanks Dean. You truly are a wealth of information. I put in a request earlier for one week for a couple of different resort options but found a few more options I wanted to add to the list. Do you think it's too late to call and add those to the search already in progress?

Also, would your recommendation be that if I truly wanted just one resort that I should not add any other resorts to the search?

Don't fall off your chair too hard but what do you think the likelihood is of landing the Harbourside at Atlantis for the end of December 08?
 

Dean can correct me, but the last two weeks of December as really tough trades. They are platinum Plus weeks and owners rarely deposit them into II.
 
Thanks Dean. You truly are a wealth of information. I put in a request earlier for one week for a couple of different resort options but found a few more options I wanted to add to the list. Do you think it's too late to call and add those to the search already in progress?

Also, would your recommendation be that if I truly wanted just one resort that I should not add any other resorts to the search?

Don't fall off your chair too hard but what do you think the likelihood is of landing the Harbourside at Atlantis for the end of December 08?
Those 2 weeks are tough just about anywhere you want to go that is either warm or Ski areas, along with week 7, likely the most difficult overall. I'm not sure if Atlantis even deposits those weeks. You can make changes anytime you want without losing your trade priority. Never list a week or resort you won't be happy with as that's the one you'll get.
 
I have another question: What happens to your points if no match is made? I understand you get reimbursed for the $95, but what happens if you have rolled over points? (Ex Aug use year. Using 2007 and 2008 points for an exchange vacation in Aug 2008.)
 
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I have another question: What happens to your points if no match is made? I understand you get reimbursed for the $95, but what happens if you have rolled over points? (Ex Aug use year. Using 2007 and 2008 points for an exchange vacation in Aug 2008.)
They don't take your points until you get a match so no problem if you don't match.
 
If you're concerned about missing a banking deadline, you can deposit a vacation into II before you have a match. You'll have up to two years to use the exchange. Once you've made the deposit, though, you can't bring the points back into DVC.

Keep in mind that when you initiate a search, you're indicating you want any of the dates/resorts on the search. If one comes through, it will be booked automatically.
 
So if I understand this correctly: I call and ask for an exchange and my points stay where they are until a match is made. BUT if I am close to my banking time I can deposit them in the exchange program and I have up to two years to use them? Also if I say I want any resort in the carribean island grouping during X week, the first one that opens up will be mine and they will then take the points out of my dvc account?
 
So if I understand this correctly: I call and ask for an exchange and my points stay where they are until a match is made. BUT if I am close to my banking time I can deposit them in the exchange program and I have up to two years to use them? Also if I say I want any resort in the carribean island grouping during X week, the first one that opens up will be mine and they will then take the points out of my dvc account?
DVC takes the points based on the actual dates of the exchange travel, not the time you actually get the exchange. It's from the UY of the dates of the exchange travel. So you may have points that will expire fairly soon, get an exchange, and still not be able to use THOSE points.

As for the week you will get if you get one, there are many factors. For purposes of this thread and to be simplistic, the first one that comes up that you are otherwise eligible for and that meet all the criteria in your exchange request, is the one you will get. For that reasons it's important to be comfortable with any of the choices you give and if you have secondary choices, to consider adding them at a much later date in hopes of getting a primary choice. One simply has to decide if it's better to get the better choice or to get any choice.

Deposit first can be a great tool to extend the life of points. IMO, renting is almost always an even better option but that's several other threads. If you deposit first the actual week you/DVC gives to II needs to occur at least 2 months before the check in of the week to give you a full functional deposit. You then have up until 2 years from the check in date of that week to travel. But considering it takes 1-2 years to get an exchange in many cases, that means you should have an exchange plan in mind at the time of deposit and start an exchange request then or fairly soon after.
 
How far in advance do you recommend starting a search for a ski week say in late December or mid-March?
 
Those 2 weeks are tough just about anywhere you want to go that is either warm or Ski areas, along with week 7, likely the most difficult overall. I'm not sure if Atlantis even deposits those weeks. You can make changes anytime you want without losing your trade priority. Never list a week or resort you won't be happy with as that's the one you'll get.

What is week 7? And what exactly do you mean by making changes anytime you want without losing trade priority?

And to quote my other previous question that hasn't been answered, how far in advance would I have to start a search for a ski area for late December? Mid-March 2010 or Thanksgiving 2009 would be another option for a ski area that I am looking into. Unfortunately, having school-age kids right now really limits my date choices.
 
How far in advance do you recommend starting a search for a ski week say in late December or mid-March?
I always recommend 2 years out if possible. My next advance date would be 13-14 months, esp if you include Marriott's on your list. For this type of exchange, I'd consider anything less than 12 months out to be short notice. If you're looking for Christmas 2008, you're already VERY late but you never know. If you're looking for a year later, you're just about perfect. I'd say get your request in now for your core choices.

What is week 7? And what exactly do you mean by making changes anytime you want without losing trade priority?

And to quote my other previous question that hasn't been answered, how far in advance would I have to start a search for a ski area for late December? Mid-March 2010 or Thanksgiving 2009 would be another option for a ski area that I am looking into. Unfortunately, having school-age kids right now really limits my date choices.
President's week normally. Your trade power is determined in part by your underlying week and resort. Think algebra with the components being unit size, demand of the resort, demand of the week and when you place the request. DVC has generic trade power so the only things you can control in the equation is how early you request along with the resorts and unit sizes you list. II arranges the order of priority of the participants and it changes every time someone gets on the list for the same resort/week/unit type you request. It is not a first come/first served. It works much the same way that airlines use to determine who gets an upgrade. Another consideration is what unit size you need, esp when trading II. If you only need a 1 BR but search for resorts that only have 2 BR, it'll cost you 270 points. Do realize that there are few of these ski weeks deposited because most who own those (or are lucky enough to get a reservation) either use or rent them out.

Here's a list to get you started. Note, I didn't cross reference to the DVC list so there's a chance some of these may not be on the DVC exchange list. I'd say the Marriott's are all good choices except for Vail but do include the two in Tahoe. Franz Klammer, the 4 Hyatt's, St. James Place, Poste Montane Lodge at Beaver Creek, Grand Timber Lodge, Park Plaza at Beaver Creek and the Westgate Park City. I'm sure there are others worth considering but they likely a step down.
 
Dean,

I am correct in assuming that I will not most likely find out if there is a match or not until within a 6 month window, correct? I can't recall correctly or not whether some places are 12 months out.

Thanks,
Courtney
 
Dean,

I am correct in assuming that I will not most likely find out if there is a match or not until within a 6 month window, correct? I can't recall correctly or not whether some places are 12 months out.

Thanks,
Courtney
The earliest you could find out depends on how early a given resort can deposit. Most are 12 months out, some are 18 months and a few are 2 years. Marriott's floating week resorts are officially 12 months out but as soon as you have a res #, II will take it thus effectively making it up to 14 months or longer. My experience suggests that there are peaks of matches at certain spots along the way. These include as early as the resort can be deposited, 12 months out, when dues are due (for those that can't be deposited without paying the dues), at 6 months out and at 2 months out. Certainly matches can happen at any time once a given resort can be deposited.

I'd say most are 10-12 months, 6 months and 2 month.
 
Can you put in a request for multiple weeks over the course of a couple of years with one search fee?
 
Can you put in a request for multiple weeks over the course of a couple of years with one search fee?
The answer depends on your specifics. Yes you can put in a request for multiple different and unrelated options for one search fee. But once you get ONE of them, that search is completed. What you can't do is get more than one week as a match for a single fee and search.
 











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