Discussion in 'The DIS Unplugged Podcast' started by EastYorkDisneyFan, Nov 24, 2012.
If they kept the Cinnamon Buns at the bakery would it change your opinion of Starbucks going in
I don't eat cinnamon buns (food allergies) but Main Street Bakery was my go-to for allergy treats- gluten free, dairy free, and vegan options were readily available. I'm not fond of any chain in the parks, but I'd be sorely disappointed if these treats weren't available somewhere equally accessible.
Although I appreciate Starbucks having soy milk while most Disney coffee stops don't, I still won't step foot inside. My vacation is about experiences I can't get at home! To me it's an ethical issue, not one of convenience.
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I honestly don't think this has much to do with the cinnamon buns or at least it doesn't for me. In my opinion, the Main Street Bakery is a tradition representing old-time America. My issue with the change is that it is now going to be a commercialized vendor from 2012 - one I can visit anytime when not on vacation. I rather not see that when I am supposed to be immersed in another era. The cinnamon buns and other baked goods are a bonus as they are wonderful treats that fit with the theme of an old-fashioned bakery.
On the other hand, I see my nescafe maker everyday in my kitchen, what it all boils down to is people hate change. I have no doubt in my mind Disney is going to work their magic and make it look theme appropriate.
I just don't get why people hate before they see.
Once upon a time (10+ years ago) there were wonderful cinnamon rolls at the MSB. Then they changed to the more generic, corporate cinnamon roll. Its just not the same but that boat sailed a long time ago.
If we talked about net negative changes over the last 10 years, I could speak volumes on several subjects, not just on cinnamon rolls. Lights of Winter, the Yeti, Mr Toad, the vacuum of space in future world near the energy pavilion. What mystifies me is why Disney changes the popular attractions and leaves the snoozers, such as Ellen's entropy adventure, and the "great" movie ride. I know sponsor choice has some influence but Disney seems to cave to the almighty sponsor $$$$ very easily.
Still, I keep going to the parks, and whine when I don't get to go.
I guess this is where my perspective prevents me from appreciating the hue and cry. I have never thought going to WDW was supposed to immerse me in another era. If I want history, I can go to DC, or Virginia, or Europe.
I can see where people take issue with the introduction of Starbucks, given that the idea is to create a mood back to the early 20th century on Main Street USA. I would say that's a fairly good size lack of continuity. Personally, it doesn't bother me as I've probably bought a coffee once over the course of hundreds of visits and stopped there for a cookie only occasionally. But if WDW hasn't immersed you into another era/environment at some point -you should probably ask for your money back.
Starbucks means a lack of continuity more so than Edy's Ice Cream, Coca Cola, or Kodak? Nestle didn't introduce Nescafé coffee until 1938 (and they haven't brewed a new pot ever since).
I'm not sure what this adds to the conversation.
Now, to be honest, Disney's marketing/PR strategy for this announcement seems have been by the same folks who pretended to market John Carter. But that is a different story altogether.
I would say both Kodak & Coca-Cola fit in just fine with a turn of the century main street. Kodak started in 1889, and Coca-Cola in 1886. If all they do is add Starbucks to what is there now, who cares? The ice cream cookie is available literally next door, and the cinnamon buns are still available in MK. Maybe the problem is MSB has never been a huge part of my family's visits.
We seem to forget MSB has been renoed in the last 10 years.
And the argument of "I want an experience I can't get at home" is hogwash, I would bet that almost everyone lives in a community that has a small family run bakery, that serves pastries and deserts that are better than MSB, it's just not in the MK.
I couldn't have said it better!
"I guess this is where my perspective prevents me from appreciating the hue and cry. I have never thought going to WDW was supposed to immerse me in another era. If I want history, I can go to DC, or Virginia, or Europe."
To me, that is the whole idea of wdw. To immerse you in another time, place or fantasy... To be able to step away from reality.
Main Street has had a lack of continuity since, well, it was built. If selling a product that wasn't available at the turn of the century is a problem for Starbucks it is a problem for everything sold in the Emporium that says Walt Disney World on it since Walt Disney World didn't come along until 70 years later.
They also better get rid of the computerized cash registers and put cocaine back in the Coca-Cola too.
If we want non-commercialized vendors while at WDW they also need to get rid of Dole products, Coca-Cola products, all prepackaged foods, and everything else that is made by a large corporation.
Hey! Those are 2 of my favorite rides!!!
If they simply added the starbucks beverages to the MSB and left everything else as is...I am guessing a lot less people would be upset. All along many people's gripe was that the coffee was no good. Assuming you believe Starbucks coffee is better, it would be a simple solution. Just serve Starbucks coffee and don't mess with anything else.
As long as the outside of the store stays in keeping with the rest of Main Street, they can add or take away all the things they want inside.
The one and only time I ever tried a Main Street bakery cinnamon bun it was not very good - dry and tasteless. I think it was stale and I never tried another one.
I very seldom even go into the Main Street Bakery. It's too small for the crowds and most likely will be worse when it becomes a Starbucks.
I should add that I don't drink coffee. I've never gone into a Starbucks to try their tea or hot chocolate. I guess I'm too cheap. I can make it in the room or food court cheaper. LOL
I agree! They added mermaids to Pirates which sure, I enjoyed but how many updates is that attraction going to get, and all whilst ingnoring others that could really use the attention.
If the Bakery redo isn't done properly to where it's insulting to the rest of Main Street and it's theming, I'm pretty sure I'd get my coffee and what not elsewhere. Even if I have to truck all the way back to Fantasyland for the swill. For me it's not about the Cinnamon rolls at all but about the theming and respecting what's there already. Main Street is such a special place, it would be horendous if they screwed it up but I have faith now that I've calmed down, that they won't.
Looks like Starbucks has settled on the coffee it will serve at the MK.
Starbucks Sells Geisha Coffee for $7 a Cup
Change the name to "Princess" and they'll have a hit!
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