If there is NO SMOKING in the parks they why...

[C.Ann]

Originally posted by AirForceRocks
How can you say with a (I'm assuming) straight face that smoking is not allowed in WDW theme parks when there are designated smoking areas in all of the parks?

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Have to admit that one has me puzzled too.. I have two brand new 2003 park guides sitting right here next to me and each of them say: "Smoking is not allowed in the parks EXCEPT in the designated smoking areas."

Are we missing something???????

 

[Safari Steve]

Ok, here's the official company line...

If a guest asks, "Why don't you ban smoking completely?"
"As a general rule, smoking isn't allowed within Walt Disney World theme parks. For the comfort of those guests who do smoke, however, we have provided some designated areas where they may smoke without disturbing non-smoking guests."

 

[AirForceRocks]

So it is permitted in the theme parks, but only in designated smoking areas. Which is completely different than "smoking is not allowed in the theme parks".

 

[YellowXterra]

I agree that people should not smoke in a line, indoors, or in a real heavy crowd "during a parade" But my gosh the rest of the place is the wide open OUT DOORS. What did all you fine folks do before the smoking areas were set up? Sorry to rant. I need to quit myself! Its the hardest thing I have ever tried to do.

 

[DancingBear]

To quote our former Prez, "It all depends on what the meaning of "is" is."

The confusion does not seem to be Safari Steve's, as the official company response does include the line:

"smoking isn't allowed within Walt Disney World theme parks."

Rather, it seems a bit of intentional obfuscation on behalf of the WDW CM training manual.

 

[DebbieB]

We watched Fantasy in the Sky at MK last Tuesday in front of the train station. A goofball in front of us in the middle of the crowd lit up, he had 2 small kids (I hate that even more). We just moved away. A security guard busted a woman back by the safari fastpass entrance, she started arguing with him! He told her to consult her guide map for designated areas.

 

[DancingBear]

Originally posted by YellowXterra
I agree that people should not smoke in a line, indoors, or in a real heavy crowd "during a parade" But my gosh the rest of the place is the wide open OUT DOORS. What did all you fine folks do before the smoking areas were set up? Sorry to rant. I need to quit myself! Its the hardest thing I have ever tried to do.

Good luck quitting. Make no mistake, smoke doesn't instantly dissipate just because you are out of doors. Before the smoking areas were set up, the vast majority of us who are non-smokers had to do our best to avoid the smokers. Now the burden is on the smokers.

 

[AirForceRocks]

The confusion does not seem to be Safari Steve's, as the official company response does include the line:

"smoking isn't allowed within Walt Disney World theme parks."

Where is that?

There really isn't any confusion when there are smoking areas in the parks. Obviously smoking IS permitted, or there would be no designated smoking areas.

 

[DancingBear]

Originally posted by AirForceRocks
Where is that?

Stop being so defensive and go back and read Safari Steve's post with the "official company line." I'm not arguing with you---clearly they allow smoking in the designated areas. However, the conflicting messages are not Steve's interpretation, but are right there in the instructions to the CMs.

 

[AirForceRocks]

Stop being so defensive and go back and read Safari Steve's post with the "official company line."

Stop being so nasty - I wasn't being defensive, I was simply asking where that particular phrase was. Had I realized that you were simply cutting out the parts of the manual that you didn't like, and that didn't support your view, then I wouldn't have asked.

However, the conflicting messages are not Steve's interpretation, but are right there in the instructions to the CMs.

I see no conflict whatsoever - the rules clearly state that smoking is permitted in designated areas.

Talk about defensive...

 

[DancingBear]

You quoted my line that "the official company response includes the line..." and said "Where's That?"

Yes, I'm being defensive. It was right there in front of you and you apparently didn't see it. Now you accuse me of "cutting out the parts of the manual that you didn't like and that didn't support your view..."

First of all, I clearly showed that I was extracting just one line.

Secondly, my "view" was simply that Safari Steve was just giving the company line when he said earlier that no smoking is allowed, but that designated smoking areas are provided. That was the post to which you responded how can Steve say that with a straight face. It was YOU who pointed out that this position is in conflict with itself. Now you "see no conflict whatsoever."

I never had the view that no smoking is allowed.

 

[Mackey Mouse]

OK.............for some reason these posts just bring out the worse in us all.... so with that I am locking this... We are veering into arguing over semantics... Enough... Have a good night everyone..