I shouldnt be suprised at this point...

discernment said:
Nice try, you will notice I said "homosexual pedophiles" NAMBLA is the group that is made up of "homosexual pedophiles." This is a statement of fact. I never equate the two nor do I say that homosexuality is the same as molesting a child.

Heres a nice study that came out while you may have been under your rock,

http://www.afamichigan.org/2005/06/...tly-overrepresented-in-child-sex-abuse-cases/


Nambla is a tiny minority that has zero clout in any legitimate group or government. People who point to them as being associated with mainstream gay people are merely being fear mongers and pushing their agenda of ignorance and hate.
 
eclectics said:
Nambla is a tiny minority that has zero clout in any legitimate group or government.


The same could be said about GLAAD or any other mainline gay organization in the recent past but look where we stand today.

Incrementalism. Thank you for helping prove my point.
 
I have time to read this thread as I'm searching for my gay meds. Oh have you heard? The Pentagon now classifies homosexuality as a "mental illness." Now, where are my darn pills, gay-be-gone? :rolleyes1
 

RadioFanatic said:
I love how discernment just ignored my post - can't take it from people who actually know, and have personal experience, about the issue. easier to just paint with really broad, biased and homophobic paintbrushes. (we need a paintbrushing smiley!)

:artist:

I saw this thread late last night and thought, if I ignore them they will go away. Then I thought maybe I could beckon DVCLiz and her "trolldar". Ultimately I went to bed. I came back tonight and found a 10 page thread :scared1:

I must admit, I think I might like Episcopalians :thumbsup2 if they are changing with the times in such a way to elect a gay bishop and a female bishop I think thats great.

I agree with the poster who said "can the haters go to their own island" because I'm tired of what extremists have done to this world :sad1:

I guess it comes down to the OP is not an Episcopalian, so why do they care?
 
NewJersey said:
I have time to read this thread as I'm searching for my gay meds. Oh have you heard? The Pentagon now classifies homosexuality as a "mental illness." Now, where are my darn pills, gay-be-gone? :rolleyes1

I think it still says something like that in the DSMIV.

Either way, I believe that neither homosexuality or paedophilia are a choice, but homosexuality is legal and harms no one while acting upon paedophilia DOES harm someone.

Not to mention the numerous studies/research done on homosexuals a few decades back. You do realise that psychologists who thought that homosexuality was an 'illness' used to take homosexuals (male) and make them watch homosexual porn and if aroused they would be shocked (electrically)? It's called aversion therapy. They would also lock them up and give them gay porn mags/pics and also fill them up with stuff to make them vomit and whatnot so that they would associate being ill with homosexuality (called classical conditioning).

Guess what? IT DIDN'T WORK.
I would imagine that the same would apply to paedophiles, but again, paedophilia hurts someone and is illegal for that very reason.

Also, the age of sexual consent in the UK is 16... so it would be quite legal for a 35yr old and a 17yr old to have a sexual relationship here.

The cut-off for childhood? I believe that it's definitely before the age of sexual consent, but we're all individuals.

And if you think that 14yr olds (girls) aren't sleeping with their 19yr old partners (boys) then you're living in a dreamworld. I would bet that the vast majority of kids lose their virginity well before the age of consent, and with someone older in a lot of cases.
 
discernment said:
Well the homosexual pedophiles and their 12-17 yr old lovers would tell you that no one is being harmed by their relationship either. They are only practicing what comes naturally and has gone on throughout the centuries all the way back to the Greek and Roman cultures where men & young boys were lovers. They would tell you that age of consent laws in this country are antiquated and out dated and should be done away with. I mean who are you to come between the love of a 35yr old man and his 17 year old lover? Who is truly being harmed? Ah....the slope suddenly does come more slippery at this point now doesnt it.

If the Bishop helps to normalize and push the gay agenda further then it does affect me and ultimately all of us as a society. I am sorry you just cant see that
So, if you think homosexuality and pedophilia are so similar, please inform me how two consenting adults harm anyone by having sex. And by the way, simply being gay isn't illegal in this country for the very reason that it doesn't do anyone harm. The 13 states with sodomy laws in 2003 were not all about being gay, as 9 of those states' laws were directed to everyone, gay and straight. http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/26/scotus.sodomy/

I think in the USA, the age of consent may be lowered to something like the UK's 16 without causing an uproar, but honestly do you really think any lawmaker in this country would agree to lowering it to 12? That's extremely unlikely.

I need to emphasize here that the definition of pedophilia is NOT wanting to have sex with a 17-year-old. It's wanting to have sex with someone who isn't emotionally and sexually mature, aka a prepubescent child.
 
eclectics said:
Nambla is a tiny minority that has zero clout in any legitimate group or government. People who point to them as being associated with mainstream gay people are merely being fear mongers and pushing their agenda of ignorance and hate.

thank you eclectics - you are exactly right.
 
discernment said:
Nice try, you will notice I said "homosexual pedophiles" NAMBLA is the group that is made up of "homosexual pedophiles." This is a statement of fact. I never equate the two nor do I say that homosexuality is the same as molesting a child.

Heres a nice study that came out while you may have been under your rock,

http://www.afamichigan.org/2005/06/...tly-overrepresented-in-child-sex-abuse-cases/

While you are busy throwing rocks, (so you must be without sin, right?), here's another study that was done, from Religious Tolerance.org

Sexual orientation is normally thought of in terms of an adult's sexual attraction to other adults, whether to members of the same gender, opposite gender or both genders. When we think of the term "lesbian" we normally visualize a women who has been sexually attracted to (or involved with) another woman. But there are adults who do not fit this definition. They have never developed a sexual orientation towards other adults. Rather, they are sexually attracted to children. And often the gender of the child victim is immaterial. One researcher defines a "fixated child molesters" as any adult who is solely attracted to children. They also define the term "regressed child molester" as any adult who has developed a sexual orientation towards other adults, but is also attracted to children.

One study involved 175 male adults who had been convicted in Massachusetts of child sexual assault. They found that none of them were homosexuals; all of them would fit the description of a fixated child molester. They were sexually attracted only to children and not to other adults. 2 Another researcher studied sexually abused children seen in a hospital. Only 2 perpetrators (less than 1% of the total) were homosexuals (i.e. were attracted to same-sex adults).

The Massachusetts study includes a reference to a survey of literature of child sexual abuse by Paul Cameron in 1985. Cameron's conclusion was that (on a per-capita basis) homosexuals were more liable to abuse children than bisexuals, and that bisexuals were more apt to abuse than heterosexuals. The fatal flaw in this survey was that the articles that Cameron studied assumed that in any case where a male adult abused a male child, then the perpetrator was, by his definition, a homosexual.
 
eclectics said:
Nambla is a tiny minority that has zero clout in any legitimate group or government. People who point to them as being associated with mainstream gay people are merely being fear mongers and pushing their agenda of ignorance and hate.

Well said. It's quite telling that only the hate filled extremists on that side of the fence ever pull out the NAMBLA card.
 
It is also quite telling that when you engage in a discussion with liberals they always start the name calling. Lets see here, i have been called a homophobe, bigot, clansman, part of the godhatesfags group, hate filled extremist. I am sure there are some names I missed. Of course this is from the "tolerant" crowd.

It is interesting that the people that swoop into a post and just start name calling are never interested in any kind of discussion on this matter. They just want to label you and try to marganilize your opinion. I was so honored to see some of my old time "friends" come by and pay me a visit.

Also, I have taken Rick up on his challenge and I have posted on the gay & lesbian board as well.
 
Webster's Dictionary's definition of homophobe -

homophobe - One entry found for homophobe.

Main Entry: ho·mo·phobe
Pronunciation: -"fOb
Function: noun
: a person characterized by homophobia

homophobia -One entry found for homophobia.

Main Entry: ho·mo·pho·bia
Pronunciation: "hO-m&-'fO-bE-&
Function: noun
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

So, I was just calling a spade a spade.
 
discernment said:
It is also quite telling that when you engage in a discussion with liberals they always start the name calling. Lets see here, i have been called a homophobe, bigot, clansman, part of the godhatesfags group, hate filled extremist. I am sure there are some names I missed. Of course this is from the "tolerant" crowd.

It is interesting that the people that swoop into a post and just start name calling are never interested in any kind of discussion on this matter. They just want to label you and try to marganilize your opinion. I was so honored to see some of my old time "friends" come by and pay me a visit.

Also, I have taken Rick up on his challenge and I have posted on the gay & lesbian board as well.
Is that all you have to say? People get very emotional about this issue, and it is wrong to start name calling instead of debating. I know I have tried to engage you on this issue intellectually, but you persist in insulting gays in calling them deviant and sick and have little to back up your claim except some hysterical ideas. Besides that, you seem to be a troll. I have to say there's little wonder some on this thread are not taking you seriously and insulting you. The insults are still wrong, of course. Except homophobe is an accurate term, it seems.
 
discernment said:
It is also quite telling that when you engage in a discussion with liberals they always start the name calling. Lets see here, i have been called a homophobe, bigot, clansman, part of the godhatesfags group, hate filled extremist. I am sure there are some names I missed. Of course this is from the "tolerant" crowd.

It is interesting that the people that swoop into a post and just start name calling are never interested in any kind of discussion on this matter. They just want to label you and try to marganilize your opinion. I was so honored to see some of my old time "friends" come by and pay me a visit.

Also, I have taken Rick up on his challenge and I have posted on the gay & lesbian board as well.

Oh you're right, I should feel sorry for you . You opened yourself up to be called a homophobe, which clearly you are, by calling my lifestyle sick, deviant, and having the rudeness and audacity to compare it to pedophilia. But yes, let me feel sorry for you.

I read this on the Gay and lesbian board..."it's like talking to a brick wall..a brick wall in the shape of a cross."
 
Discernment,

So how do you deal with gay friends, family memeber, co-workers etc. in real life? Do you tell them they are an abomination? Tell them how similar they are to child-molesters, that sort of thing?
 

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