I expected some rude people, but some of this was ridiculous...

[FairydustyPrincesses]

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And being illiterate means you can't read.

Yes, it means being uneducated. And I still stand by my point. It is unnecessary to "judge" people by their race. Especially when right before that comment, she said how she loved Europeans maybe implying that they wouldn't act like that. If the poster in fact did not mean any harm, then of course I apologize, but it was incorrectly worded. And I don't really tolerate remarks against someone's nationality. It is uncalled for, especially on a forum where a lot of people from different cultures come together to share the love we have for Disney.

Actually it means you can't read... Are you thinking ignorant? I think that is the word you were reaching for.

I didn't think she was judging the nationality. I think the only reason she brought it up was because cultural differences are on display and aside from disrespectful college students , foreigners seem to be the worst line cutters. Maybe that wasn't even her motive.

As for the breastfeeding I'm cool with that. I probably would not give it more than a sidelong glance (unless the breast in question was particularly appealing - I'm old and married, but not dead )

I think that's the true root of a lot of the breastfeeding gripes! My man may get a sneak peek of some side boo b!

 

[alh921]

I think the previous poster mentioned that the woman was feeding her child while on the ride with strangers seated next to her. This is just how I feel, but strangers eating next to me while on a ride would be distracting to me regardless of methods. If someone were eating a burger next to me on a ride, it would be distracting; lines can be long for rides, so having distractions while on the ride can be kind of a bust. Sitting next to a screaming baby would be a distraction, too. I would probably just want out of the situation all around, if possible -- maybe I would request to be seated in a different car if it's obvious that the situation were in progress while the ride is loading.

 

[katoot]

Actually it means you can't read... Are you thinking ignorant? I think that is the word you were reaching for.

This. Just because I'm illiterate in, say, Portuguese, doesn't mean I'm uneducated. Yes, illiterate CAN refer to being uneducated, but not necessarily synonomous with the word.

 

[ARAITHEL]

Maybe that wasn't even her motive.

Exactly... Just a culture/class thing.

 

[CarolineB]

Forgot to add- I'm really getting a phobia of wheel c chairs and ECvs for the upcoming trip based on the recent threads!! It's a war down there : wheels V.feet!!

Unfortunately, there's no real way to be careful about this -- I was standing still and got struck twice (by the same lady) with an ECV -- the skin was broken but not bruised or bleeding but it's now 3 weeks later and my leg still hurts when you press on the spot that was hit. The lady hit me twice because she didn't know she hit me the first time and continued moving the EVC.

 

[kmedina]

I think the previous poster mentioned that the woman was feeding her child while on the ride with strangers seated next to her. This is just how I feel, but strangers eating next to me while on a ride would be distracting to me regardless of methods. If someone were eating a burger next to me on a ride, it would be distracting; lines can be long for rides, so having distractions while on the ride can be kind of a bust. Sitting next to a screaming baby would be a distraction, too. I would probably just want out of the situation all around, if possible -- maybe I would request to be seated in a different car if it's obvious that the situation were in progress while the ride is loading.

I knew what the op of that statement meant. The lady doing it probably never thought for a second someone would consider it rude. She just thought she was feeding her baby. If she did not feed the baby and the baby cried through the ride, the op may not have enjoyed that either. We have no control over when an on demand nursling will want to feed. After standing in a long line (as long as it's safe to nurse on the ride), she probably did not want to leave the ride to nurse. I cover, because I do not want anyone seeing my breast even for a split second. My son does not like the cover and tries to pull it down, so I can see why some Mamas would want to nurse uncovered.

 

[alh921]

I knew what the op of that statement meant. The lady doing it probably never thought for a second someone would consider it rude. She just thought she was feeding her baby. If she did not feed the baby and the baby cried through the ride, the op may not have enjoyed that either. We have no control over when an on demand nursling will want to feed. After standing in a long line (as long as it's safe to nurse on the ride), she probably did not want to leave the ride to nurse. I cover, because I do not want anyone seeing my breast even for a split second. My son does not like the cover and tries to pull it down, so I can see why some Mamas would want to nurse uncovered.

What is considered rude is sometimes subjective -- and I don't even know if I would consider the behavior "rude" -- I just noted that I would find it distracting. I understand the demands of feeding an infant. I was just stating how I would personally feel being in a situation like that. I would never say anything to the person and I would obviously adjust if I had to, but if it's also obvious that someone is planning on eating or feeding while on a ride next to me prior to boarding the ride, I would probably do what I can to avoid being seated there. It's not possible to always know how people will react to all situations and actions, but it's also not realistic for people to force themselves to feel comfortable in a situation where they may not feel comfortable.

 

[Hannathy]

I agree I would not want to be sitting next to a breastfeeding baby anymore than someone eating on the ride. It is one thing to breastfeed say on a car is spaceship earth where you are alone in a car but IMO rude on a group car.

I'm sorry if your child needs to eat as you get on the ride but in a group boat type of situation the polite thing would be to get out of line and deal with the needs of your child. Is it fun? no, is it convenient? no but having kids means that sometimes we the parent, not the public, but we have to be inconvenienced to care for and take care of their needs. That is what being a parent means.

 

[nadira36]

So sorry you had those experiences! Hope the rest of the trip was magical!

Last trip was our worst for rudeness. The first 2 things are from the last trip - the rest from different trips.

At the teacups a lady with 2 down syndrome people (both adults) cut in - right into the holding area. She said they don't like waiting in line. I told her to go to guest services for a card (whatever they're called) she said she had, but they don't qualify b/c they just don't like waiting but have no reason not to wait.

Anyhow - low and behold my DD (age 3) and I weren't able to ride that ride. Since her legs were the shortest, we were the slowest to find a teacup. Instead that lady took the teacup - waved and laughed at us. The CM didn't say anything, didn't do anything. And my little girl sat there and cried because after waiting 20 min she wasn't allowed to ride the ride after all - at that point waiting another 5 min seemed like the end of the world to her.

Then at Triceratop spin a CM decided it'd be appropriate to flip off his co-worker right in front of us.

As to changing a diaper in line - yeah I'd be very annoyed at someone doing that - but last trip we were in line for TSM - already inside. ONly had about 15 min left to wait, when DD 3 needed to go. The people ahead and behind said don't worry, they'f hold our spot - so off we ran. Apologizing the entire way as we exited. Then apologizing as we passed all those same people 10 minutes later as we got back in line.

I'm one of those mom's that breastfeed in public. Don't use a cover. But hey there's not much to see anyhow. Apparently just the act of me holding my dd was too much for one family.

There I was with my then baby (same little girl from all the other stories - maybe it's her faultg) I couldn't find DH or my older girl. The parade was started, the baby was crying and I was frantic about something. So I just started feeding her. When this hispanic family came over and started screaming at me for breastfeeding - then went on to loudly talk about how gross I was and how trash like me shouldn't be allowed in public places etc etc etc. I was by the time DH finally found me - horrified. Luckily (for Dh since he's quite a bit smaller than any of those women were) they had moved on to other victims by the time Dh arrived.

 

[FairydustyPrincesses]

What is considered rude is sometimes subjective -- and I don't even know if I would consider the behavior "rude" -- I just noted that I would find it distracting. I understand the demands of feeding an infant. I was just stating how I would personally feel being in a situation like that. I would never say anything to the person and I would obviously adjust if I had to, but if it's also obvious that someone is planning on eating or feeding while on a ride next to me prior to boarding the ride, I would probably do what I can to avoid being seated there. It's not possible to always know how people will react to all situations and actions, but it's also not realistic for people to force themselves to feel comfortable in a situation where they may not feel comfortable.

And that's fine- ask to sit on another row, I don't see anything wrong with that. What I take issue with is the feeling that a nursing mom is being rude to others by nursing her child.


Which I will now address:

I agree I would not want to be sitting next to a breastfeeding baby anymore than someone eating on the ride. It is one thing to breastfeed say on a car is spaceship earth where you are alone in a car but IMO rude on a group car.

I'm sorry if your child needs to eat as you get on the ride but in a group boat type of situation the polite thing would be to get out of line and deal with the needs of your child. Is it fun? no, is it convenient? no but having kids means that sometimes we the parent, not the public, but we have to be inconvenienced to care for and take care of their needs. That is what being a parent means.

I'm going to t ake a flying leap here and guess you have never exclusively breast fed a child or have been with someone who has.

Oftentimes these kids won't take a pacifier or bottle. Guess what I'd love for my baby to to give me a break after a year but she won't.

Also you can't know when they'll want to nurse always because it's not just hunger. Like a baby would use a bottle or pacifier for comfort so does the breast fed baby use nursing for comfort. So say Susie just ate but Capt barbosa in a waterfall and canon fire freaks the crap out of her...

Guess what- she's going to dig in mommys shirt.

Now mommy gets to decide (under stress) to nurse the baby in a situation she's not comfortable in or let Susie scream and ruin the whole ride for everyone.

Guess which is less distracting- a screaming baby or a quietly nursing one snuggled against her mom in the DARK Ride....

No the mom isn't being rude get a grip and get over your own hangups.

Perhaps Disney should provide nursing cars on all rides so that no one is harmed by a loving mom taking care of her child the best she can in an unfamiliar and maybe scary situation for the baby.

Btw cover your eyes, I'm nursing my baby as I post...

Uncovered

 

[kmedina]

I did read some more posts after my initial post. Some wonder how this became a breastfeeding thread, and my answer is that I am truly shocked people find this rude. Once you've commented and people respond, many feel a follow up or two may be necessary.

What is considered rude is sometimes subjective -- and I don't even know if I would consider the behavior "rude" -- I just noted that I would find it distracting. I understand the demands of feeding an infant. I was just stating how I would personally feel being in a situation like that. I would never say anything to the person and I would obviously adjust if I had to, but if it's also obvious that someone is planning on eating or feeding while on a ride next to me prior to boarding the ride, I would probably do what I can to avoid being seated there. It's not possible to always know how people will react to all situations and actions, but it's also not realistic for people to force themselves to feel comfortable in a situation where they may not feel comfortable.

I have never seen anyone eat on a ride (baby or otherwise). The nursing baby would not bother me, but I now see it could bother others. It still makes me wonder if the nursing Mom even thought someone would consider that rude. Rudeness is really subjective, because I never knew before tonight that people found it rude and/or distracting. If one does not realize others may consider something rude, he/she is unlikely to alter the behavior. On a funny note, my niece asked me the other night why I put Connor under a blanket somtimes. My nephew has asked me that before as well. I let their own Moms explain that to them.

I agree I would not want to be sitting next to a breastfeeding baby anymore than someone eating on the ride. It is one thing to breastfeed say on a car is spaceship earth where you are alone in a car but IMO rude on a group car.

I'm sorry if your child needs to eat as you get on the ride but in a group boat type of situation the polite thing would be to get out of line and deal with the needs of your child. Is it fun? no, is it convenient? no but having kids means that sometimes we the parent, not the public, but we have to be inconvenienced to care for and take care of their needs. That is what being a parent means.

It would not bother me at all (cover or not) if a Mom nursed her kid anywhere. If my son needed to nurse on a ride, I would probably do it if it could be done safely. The thought of nursing him on a ride never even crossed my mind before this thread, because I've never seen it done. I would try to calm him in other ways first. On the safari, TSMM and some others, I need to hold him tightly with both hands and would never dream of nursing there. Since I use a cover, no one would be distracted. I would not leave the line unless he was upset, and I was unable to calm him down.

I doubt many would leave the line. If this ever happens, you should mention to the nurser that it bothers you. Everyone sees things so differently that someone can perceive anything as rude. We do not always see things from the others perspective until it is pointed out. If she continues to nurse, since legally she has the right, then you know she is one who does not care that you think it is rude. I am honestly shocked that feeding a baby anywhere still bothers people, so she may be as well.

Being a parent also means doing what is best for your child. If my baby throws a fit to eat on a ride, I would likely put his needs in front of the stranger sitting next to me (as I am sure many would). That said, when he gets old enough to understand, I would teach him that he needs to learn to wait. You said the parent should leave the line, but with an on demand nursling, you may not know the child needs to nurse until the ride has already started. Unfortunately, no one can leave once it starts. The alternative is to ride with a screaming baby, which could bother other riders.

 

[FairydustyPrincesses]

So sorry you had those experiences! Hope the rest of the trip was magical!

Last trip was our worst for rudeness. The first 2 things are from the last trip - the rest from different trips.

At the teacups a lady with 2 down syndrome people (both adults) cut in - right into the holding area. She said they don't like waiting in line. I told her to go to guest services for a card (whatever they're called) she said she had, but they don't qualify b/c they just don't like waiting but have no reason not to wait.


Thought that was part of the reason that autistic kids get the pass, because they have a hard time with lines?! The same would hold true for down syndrome and I'd say be easier to get because their condition has easily identifiable physical aspects and there are other issues involved in downs that would qualify them for the card!

Sounds like she was just taking advantage of you.
Awful she waved at you getting on the last car that is messed up.

Then at Triceratop spin a CM decided it'd be appropriate to flip off his co-worker right in front of us.

What's going on with cast members? Seems like expectations have been lowered lately.



I'm one of those mom's that breastfeed in public. Don't use a cover. But hey there's not much to see anyhow. Apparently just the act of me holding my dd was too much for one family.

There I was with my then baby (same little girl from all the other stories - maybe it's her faultg) I couldn't find DH or my older girl. The parade was started, the baby was crying and I was frantic about something. So I just started feeding her. When this hispanic family came over and started screaming at me for breastfeeding - then went on to loudly talk about how gross I was and how trash like me shouldn't be allowed in public places etc etc etc. I was by the time DH finally found me - horrified. Luckily (for Dh since he's quite a bit smaller than any of those women were) they had moved on to other victims by the time Dh arrived.

That's awful! Im surprised because I thought their culture was generally more accepting of breastfeeding of course there are some in every group!


I'm sure like all the others complaining about rude breast feeding moms on this thread they would have been giving you the stink eye or yelled at you anyway had you not breast fed and thbaby screamed the whole time.

Of course you should have just gotten out line given up your parade spot because nursing is so offensive and you are obviously just an exhibitionist.

You should have gone to look for you husband and child (who was probably peeing in some topiary sculptures)

 

[WDW_Paul]

I got smashed into by a wheelchair a few years ago and MAN did it hurt. My ankle started bruising and swelling so much that we had to leave the park so I could sit down and prop it up. AND it was at MVMCP, so it was a ticketed event that we paid for and then had to miss out on!

The guy who did it just laughed when it happened... maybe his way of shrugging it off as no big deal. But when my husband confronted him and asked him to apologize, he "didn't speak English" and therefore couldn't understand why we'd be upset.

I'm not a violent person but I bet he would have understood a punch to the face. That language is universal. So sorry to hear about that jerk.

WDW_Paul

 

[CamoMama]

Which camp do you fall in?

1. Are you insecure about your husband looking at another woman, or
2. do you feel guilty because you did not breastfeed?

It's always the women who complain! So much for sisterhood and unity. Men are usually the understanding ones who don't give a rip.

Wow, that was really uncalled for, and rude. To attack someone who has simply made the statement that a little bit of modesty is a good thing, is really offensive.

I have seen women breast feeding in an incredibly rude manner. It happens. We all want everyone to nurse, it's good for the mom and it's good for the baby. I think we can all agree that it's a great thing. But we also should be able to agree that modesty in public is also a good thing. I have seen braless women yank their shirts up to their armpits to nurse their children in the mall, park, wherever. That is rude. I have been sitting next to very unhygienic women with their kid's head buried under their arms and all I can think of is how sorry I feel for that kid to be that close to the source of the smell I'm trying to avoid. That is gross and rude.

So again, I don't have a problem with a mom nursing her infant next to me on Small World, but she should definitely be discreet about it. Most women are, but there are always a few that aren't.

So what camp should I be in? I'm not guilty about anything, because I nursed both of my kids, and I don't have a husband so I don't care whether he sees anyone's naked breast.

 

[australiankaren]

Not trying to step on anybody's toes here, but we notice in September that some of the guests from other countries are very rude. (Not Europeans/UK/Australians, I love you guys! ).

It seems like some of them think they are entitled to everything and to hold up lines/busses/etc just to get what they WANT. They are all "white collar" folks and seem to be the "upper class".

I waited behind a lady (obviously from a Latin Country) with her expensive purse, cell phone, and snobby attitude hold up a line at a bakery in HS last September. As she talked on her phone, Her daughter (14-15 years old) wanted a SPECIFIC cup cake in the display case...The CMs tried to help in a courteous way, but the girl kept saying No, I WANT THAT ONE." BRAT. 10 minutes later...she had her specific cupcake in a box and was out the door. Good riddance.

I guess our cultures are different, but most of the time it seems some are VERY RUDE...like they are better than everybody else. PUSHING AND SHOVING AND CUTTING in line is another thing from them...And no Smiles! SHEESH.

Yea, yea...it's probably the culture.

I have a hard time keeping my American Blue-Collar mouth shut.

on behalf of us Aussies..we thank you. The only annoying thing about us is our happy go lucky attitudes and grating accents

 

[Jedana]

Seriously, you call her rude yet you stoke with the fire ridiculous statements calling women who don't cover to your standards while breast feeding exhibitionist. Honey please.*

Then go on to call her a sad person. Get over yourself. Btw the laws don't state that a woman cover herself so take that argument and avert your eyes next time.

And I have never seen more breast on an uncovered nursing mom than in typical clothing of women these days. Less actually.*



I was unable to BF my girls (not enough milk producation on my part) but was able to BF my son for 2 months before he decided he preferred dad's bottles to mom's goods. I have no problem (except a bit of jealousy) with BFing, nor do I care where you do---although I would say, there are some places where you shouldn't do so, like in the middle of driving or stopping and sitting in the middle of a walkway--hazardous to those around you and to yourself. (And yes, we've seen news stories about both of these situations.)

I do have a problem with some women who seem to think that, because they are BFing, they have all the rights and you have none. (I have problems with everyone like that, actually, but this post is about breastfeeding)

The women at the parks (last time we were there) who exposed not one nipple but both--at the same time--that was a little excessive. (And it was not on accident--she opened her shirt and nursing bra on both sides, then baby latched onto one, and she left the other open.

The woman who got angry because my husband glanced around--like most people do--in the que at Winnie the Pooh, and happened to glance at her while she was BFing. Yes, the woman got mad because she thought my DH was ogling her.

I applaud women who can BF their babies. But in the first case, a bit of respect for those around her should have been applied, and the 2nd nipple covered up. In the 2nd, I think the woman was a bit oversensitive.

 

[livndisney]

[I do have a problem with some women who seem to think that, because they are BFing, they have all the rights and you have none. (I have problems with everyone like that, actually, but this post is about breastfeeding)

The women at the parks (last time we were there) who exposed not one nipple but both--at the same time--that was a little excessive. (And it was not on accident--she opened her shirt and nursing bra on both sides, then baby latched onto one, and she left the other open.

The woman who got angry because my husband glanced around--like most people do--in the que at Winnie the Pooh, and happened to glance at her while she was BFing. Yes, the woman got mad because she thought my DH was ogling her.

I applaud women who can BF their babies. But in the first case, a bit of respect for those around her should have been applied, and the 2nd nipple covered up. In the 2nd, I think the woman was a bit oversensitive.

I think this is what most people are talking about.

Several people have posted "don't care if you feed your kid, just don't want a "show".

For example, the mom sitting at the character exit at the old Toontown. The toddler was more interested in running around than "feeding". That did not stop Mom from opening her top (full exposure) and sitting there facing all of the people lined up to meet the princesses and the fairies. The "kicker" was when the GS guide attempted to stand in front of her (to perhaps give her some privacy) she started screaming at the guide about her "rights". She told the guide not to stand in front of her, that people were just going to have to "deal with it".

 

[Kona65]

After reading this post, Why in the heck to I keep going back to Disney World. I see this type of rude behavior every time I go back with my family. It just continues to get worst. So many other places to spend your money at where people actually care.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

After reading this post, Why in the heck to I keep going back to Disney World. I see this type of rude behavior every time I go back with my family. It just continues to get worst. So many other places to spend your money at where people actually care.

That is why we are giving WDW a break for a while, and our rude experiences last trip don't even compare to some of these on this thread either.

We have been going to WDW every year since DS was 2, he's 14 now. The trips now seem way different than they used to be. I don't know what it is, maybe a break is long overdue.

I read about everyones upcoming trips and don't even feel a pang of jealousy so I know its the right decision.
Yes there are rude people everywhere, but since our last WDW trip, we've been on 2 big family vacations. One to Aruba the other on a DCL/Universal trip and both those trip combined, we didn't encounter half the rudeness we do in a week at WDW.

We'll return someday, but for now its time to spend our money elsewhere and explore other options.

 

[VAfamily1998]

After reading this post, Why in the heck to I keep going back to Disney World. I see this type of rude behavior every time I go back with my family. It just continues to get worst. So many other places to spend your money at where people actually care.

We just got back earlier this week, and we mostly experienced very positive behavior. I actually found a lot of other guests that went out of their way to be nice. We were waiting for a show (Hoopla) and some other ladies that had been waiting there before us, offered to let our children stand in front of them so they could see better.
Another time we were trying to discuss our next ride strategy, and another family overheard us and advised us about the fast pass time that really helped us out.