How do we eliminate porch piracy in the USA?

[Buzz Rules]

How do we eliminate porch piracy in the USA?

You Tube has some ideas apparently...

I'm not an attorney but for those that are, doesn't doing these kinds of stunts open the home owners for some kind of lawsuits as well?

 

[kdonnel]

We make the consumer responsible for the last mile delivery.

Packages get delivered to a secure location, you get notification that your package is ready for pickup, and you perform the last mile of delivery by getting the package yourself.

It would be inconvenient for most and for others make online shopping an impossibility.

Like credit card fraud, a line is drawn by the retailers in the market as to how much fraud is acceptable. When the cost of replacing stolen packages crosses that line, the retailers will make changes.

 

[Genie+]

We make the consumer responsible for the last mile delivery.

Packages get delivered to a secure location, you get notification that your package is ready for pickup, and you perform the last mile of delivery by getting the package yourself.

It would be inconvenient for most and for others make online shopping an impossibility.

Like credit card fraud, a line is drawn by the retailers in the market as to how much fraud is acceptable. When the cost of replacing stolen packages crosses that line, the retailers will make changes.

This is kind of what the Amazon Lockers do for people who have risky porches or delivery circumstances.

 

[_19disnA]

I think the video is a humorous attempt at solving this problem. Am not a lawyer, but can recall a number of years ago when someone had their remote cabin in the woods setup to fire a gun at anyone who attempted to break in and that was determined to be illegal.

Many online companies will require you to sign for certain high value/high theft items and not just leave them at your door. To prevent minors from ordering alcohol online, that is also something that requires an adult to sign for the delivery.

 

[Cadiewampus]

Shoot the next one you see on your porch

 

[kdonnel]

This is kind of what the Amazon Lockers do for people who have risky porches or delivery circumstances.

Yeah.

My son recently moved and while helping him move in we walked through the mail "room" starting on Friday and ending on Tuesday. I was amazed at how many packages I saw on Friday that were still there on Tuesday.

Room is in quotes because while there is an actual package room, most packages were just tossed in the hallway in front of the mail boxes rather than carried to the package room. Everyone coming from the parking goes through this hallway. I thought it was strange that the package room which was less than 10 feet away was not used.

I guess that was a good sign that the packages are not stolen but mentioned to him he might want to use a nearby Amazon locker, at least for expensive items.

 

[dcassetta]

You might enjoy these guys - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgeXOVaJo_gnexNopBzUKdl3QKoADJlS8

 

[Living42Day]

We've been getting so many porch pirate thefts lately. It's going to pick up pretty bad during Christmas, which is unfortunate. Anything from Temu to Percocet (how is this something that can be mailed as a controlled substance?!) recently.

Mail rooms are notoriously bad for theft, unfortunately. All it takes is one person slipping behind someone else that scans in and they take all of the unsecured packages.

 

[MillauFr]

How do we eliminate porch piracy in the USA?

You Tube has some ideas apparently...

I'm not an attorney but for those that are, doesn't doing these kinds of stunts open the home owners for some kind of lawsuits as well?

How will an AI generated video lead to a lawsuit?

 

[Buzz Rules]

How will an AI generated video lead to a lawsuit?

I'm saying if a porch pirate gets injured like in the videos.

 

[kdonnel]

Anything from Temu to Percocet (how is this something that can be mailed as a controlled substance?!) recently.

When my dad was in hospice, they always mailed his drugs. Lots of morphine, pill and liquid form, got delivered to my house.

Many insurance companies now require patients to use mail-order pharmacies for maintenance medications.

 

[MillauFr]

I'm saying if a porch pirate gets injured like in the videos.

How would they be able to prove that they were injured by the packages?

 

[barkley]

we have a neighbor that must have one of those security systems set up that alerts her phone-and it must be set up at the end of her driveway b/c she's the first house as you enter our neighborhood (only one road in and out). god bless her b/c if she sees a delivery truck drive by and then what she perceives as an 'unknown vehicle' trailing a bit behind it she starts alerting people who in turn alert others further down the road that if they are expecting a delivery to snag their package or let one of us whose home know and we can go grab it.

 

[LuvOrlando]

Fantastic, this guy was the original to do this to trespassers and thieves, he cracks me up. The spray is a hilarious touch.

https://www.google.com/search?q=you...ate=ive&vld=cid:6fe9d40e,vid:xoxhDk-hwuo,st:0

Our apt complex had to shut down the mail room because it would literally look like thieves would go shopping in the room just opening packages and leaving them there all ratty looking. Now that items go to the door and nearly everyone has doorbell cameras it doesn't happen much but when it does happen people everywhere are QUICK to throw out those faces on Nextdoor for public shaming.

 

[Deb]

Fantastic, this guy was the original to do this to trespassers and thieves, he cracks me up. The spray is a hilarious touch.

https://www.google.com/search?q=you...ate=ive&vld=cid:6fe9d40e,vid:xoxhDk-hwuo,st:0

Our apt complex had to shut down the mail room because it would literally look like thieves would go shopping in the room just opening packages and leaving them there all ratty looking. Now that items go to the door and nearly everyone has doorbell cameras it doesn't happen much but when it does happen people everywhere are QUICK to throw out those faces on Nextdoor for public shaming.

before I moved, my apartment complex put in a wall of lockers like the amazon lockers. As long as your package arrived from Amazon or USPS it would be secure. I don't recall if fedex or UPS had access. No additional fee for the tenants

 

[LuvOrlando]

before I moved, my apartment complex put in a wall of lockers like the amazon lockers. As long as your package arrived from Amazon or USPS it would be secure. I don't recall if fedex or UPS had access. No additional fee for the tenants

We had those but there were never enough and so there was always a ton of overflow, plus the bigger items never fit. Whole thing was always ransacked, it was so bad even though it was always locked so maybe other residents did it. We are in a nice place in a nice town 15 min outside of a city