Has anyone been to Lapland by any chance?

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We are strongly considering going to Lapland in Dec 2012 after our time in DLP and France. I know nearly nothing about it and I'm getting confused and bombarded with information. Would love to hear from anyone who's been there. Highlights? Must dos? Must sees? Accommodation? Transport?

Yes I'm being lazy I know...
 
Chasing the midnight sun?

I haven't been as far up as Lapland. I headed towards Bergen and the Norweigian fjords instead and we had sun for about 21 hours when we were there.

We caught the train from Oslo towards Bergen and got off at Voss. We stayed at the Voss youth hostel and then caught a bus down towards the where we could catch a ferry on the fjord to Flam....and then the cog railway up from Flam back towards the train line again.

Very, very expensive. If I recall correctly, buying a bratwurst and a coke was about US$35.

But the scenery was breathtaking!
 
Thanks Princess! Call us crazy but we're going in winter...to go see Santa (even thought the children know he isn't real). The plan is to fly straight into Lapland spend Christmas there plus 1 or 2 days either side and then fly out again.

Now that the you've confirmed the bratwurst and coke would set me back $35, I definitely don't want to stay any longer. I can't take away from my Disney spending!
 
I've come down right from the top of Finland to the bottom. Rovaniemi is a lovely place and the Santa Claus 'town' is easily accessible from there. http://www.santaclausvillage.info/

You'll be able to do snowmobiles and possibly a reindeer sleigh ride too - it's cold but a still cold (unlike NZ) and the hotels and houses are triple glazed.

I went in summer and must say I preferred Norway for natural beauty. There are some lovely lakes in Finland but the national in joke is the mossie - far out, I've been to about 50 countries but those things are mean in Finland. On saying that it was summer.

If you have a spare couple of days I'd skip Helsinki and go to Oslo, Copenhagen or Stockholm instead. All three are much better. If your kids are into Vikings do Oslo but Stockholm would be my favourite for the Vasa Museum and the sheer beauty. I loved Copenhagen too. If you want any specific information about Oslo or Copenhagen I have friends who live there (from there too) and I have friends in Sweden who visit Stockholm frequently.
 

Oh my goodness BigDisneyOE, I am so excited! You are a rarity! Oh so many questions. I need to formulate my thoughts. Will post more when I get home!!!

Did you DIY or go with a tour?
 
Did you DIY or go with a tour?

On a Top Deck tour. So we tented in Finland but the campsites are so good you can do cabins there as well.

I loved having reindeer salami when in Finland. It was absolutely lovely. You can get those nice Nordic jerseys too if you like them and reindeer pelts, which I loved but my mate stopped me buying as she reckoned that UK Customs would have probably pitched a fit.

I can't rustle anyone up in Finland but certainly there are a few people around Scandi I can ask questions (some by snail mail but most email).
 
We are strongly considering going to Lapland in Dec 2012 after our time in DLP and France. I know nearly nothing about it and I'm getting confused and bombarded with information. Would love to hear from anyone who's been there. Highlights? Must dos? Must sees? Accommodation? Transport?

Yes I'm being lazy I know...

I have been to Lapland twice. Once in summer and once in winter. The winter trip was much more magical as when you visited santa clause's house it was snowing and really felt like Christmas time.

You can also do snow mobile tours, ice fishing and sledding where dogs pull you. They are all awesome and your kids will have a fantastic time doing them. We spent 3 nights there and that was more than enough time.

We stayed in an awesome hotel right in the centre of town. Let me know if you want the details and i will dig out my itinerary and look it up.

The airport is extremely small and we had to wait ages for a taxi and it was freezing. So see if you can tee something up before you arrive!
 
Jackpot! Not one...not two...but three people whose brain I can pick!

OK...Princess can you run through the reasons why you picked where you went? Actually, I should ask this question to all of you. We don't know if we should stick to the original 3-4 days near/at Rovaniemi or spend a little more time and include a whole swathe up the top from Tromso towards Finland. I would like to stay at the Ice hotel as well, just for one night! Or should we try to see more of Scandinavia seeing as we're there already...Did anyone go to Kemi by any chance? There is a reasonably priced tour for Dec 23 - 27 based in Kemi but visiting Rovaniemi.

BobbyRach, yes please to details! Again did you DIY or do a tour? I am undecided. It seems quite DIY but the tours seem so easy. EVerything organised for you...transport all taken care off.

Ok, next question is getting there. Any difference with regard of where I fly from. We will have just finished most of our France activities by say 20 Dec. I have been warned that airport staff strike a lot especially over Christmas and I am likely to encounter this. So should I get out of there say to Copenhagen for a couple of days? (which means that I will have a whole lot more research to do). I also have a ton of relatives in Holland and Germany, so other options are fly to Berlin, Hamburg or Amsterdam.

Too many options!!! ARghhh....This has to be worse than planning for WDW.
 
DH and I started out in Holland. We had worked out that we had very different ideas of what to see and do; resulting in a few heated discussions. So, we set the ground rules for our time of Eurailing through Europe:
1. I pick then you pick...for where next to go.
2. Always travel in the one direction; no zigzagging backwards.

I picked first. I wanted to go to Copenhagen and visit the Tivoli Gardens; so we headed on that way. Copenhagen was delightful; as was Tivoli. You'll be heading there in Winter. I don't think that Tivoli is opened in wintertime. It was a smaller city so everything was walkable and we really enjoyed the food and shopping there.....window shopping as everything was super expensive. And I loved that the buildings had that green copper roofs that are so associated with northern europe. Plus we walked around the royal palace and headed towards the Little Mermaid. The old waterfront area was also great.

DH picked next....he wanted to go see the fjords. So we headed up to Oslo. We met a couple of people on the train that were heading the same way and they recommended that we head towards Bergen but get off at Voss.

They told us about the bus that makes impossible hairpin turns down from the top of the mountains down to the valley and we could catch a ferry that took us through 2 arms of fjords before ending up at Flam. We would be able to catch the cog railway back up. The best thing about all of this was that at that time, all these transport options were included in our Eurail ticket for no extra charge.

When we got to Voss, I wasn't too sure about the choice. It was one of those railway stops where there was a single building and not much of a platform. We walked about 150m down the road before we came to the Youth Hostel. And we only saw about 3 shops on the way.
We had bought a bratwurst and a coke for the $30+ and I was a little concerned at how expensive DH's choice was going to end up. But the Youth Hostel was one that had a closed kitchen. They had a cook there and offered a 3-course Norweigian meal. The meal cost us $32 each. For that, we got a soup starter, Norweigian meatballs and overcooked vegies, and chocolate mousse for dessert. Water was free. Given the choice between the bratwurst and the meal at the Youth Hostel, I think we definitely got more value and a much more authentic experience at the Youth Hostel. The boiled meatballs were tasty and more filling.

That bus ride was scary. We sat in the front and there were times that I thought we were going to plunge down the mountain rather than being able to make the turn. But the scenery was spectacular....typically Nordic and it was summertime. So, we had the lush green grass, flowers and pencil thin waterways running down the mountains.

DH was happy because he got to sit back on the ferry and watch the fjord mountains slip by. We'd bought some crusty french stick, cheese, tomato and fruit for the trip. We met some other backpackers on the ferry and they had ham, bread, biscuits and wine. So, we split the food and had a great time on the ferry.

That cog railway? Spectacular! But then so were some of the other cog railways in Switzerland.

If I had done any research beforehand, I'm not sure if I would have done things differently. If anything, I think I would have allocated more money and time and headed towards Bergen as well. It is one of my regrets that we didn't see Bergen....next time.

I will admit that if DH had picked first (and he would have chosen Copenhagen as well), I probably wouldn't have picked the fjords....I would have chosen Stockholm instead. But after we got on the bus, I had no regrets or grumbles about his choice.
 
Ok, next question is getting there. Any difference with regard of where I fly from. We will have just finished most of our France activities by say 20 Dec. I have been warned that airport staff strike a lot especially over Christmas and I am likely to encounter this. So should I get out of there say to Copenhagen for a couple of days? (which means that I will have a whole lot more research to do). I also have a ton of relatives in Holland and Germany, so other options are fly to Berlin, Hamburg or Amsterdam.

Don't just consider flying as your only alternative for getting around Europe. The trains are wonderful....just a matter of snow and if there are any rail strikes.

If you decide to go to Berlin, stop via Switzerland.
If you decide on Hamburg, stop via Scandanavia.
If you decide on Amsterdam, stop via the World War sites in Northern France and Bruge.
 
Thank you Princess. what a lovely way to decide where to go! Although I am not sure if I could handle the loss of control...DH choosing where to go?!?!?! EEEKKK!!! :eek:

As for the transport question, I meant where to fly "from". Oops typo there. We are quite happy to hop onto a train rather than a plane. But I am guessing the only way to get to Finland by train is via eastern Europe/Russia? But your suggestions on stops is greatly appreciated. Adding it on to the list...
 
(Sorry I've been away for a while, solo parenting the twins while DH is in PNG this week)

Rovaniemi is a nice place, we stopped there on the way down from the very top. I much preferred Jyväskylä to stop at though.

You can get ferries accross from the top of Denmark to Malmo in Sweden and then bus across to Helsinki. There's an extensive bus and train network throughout Scandinavia.

If you are going to Copenhagen would you consider a side trip to Legoland? I don't know how old your kids are but it's the first one and my Danish friend says it is amazing.

Norway is amazing. I swear it's far more beautiful than NZ. We went from Oslo right to Hammerfest and it's just stunning. If you want to do something really cool try the bobsled track built for the Olympics at Lillehammer. A professional takes you down it - it's one of the most amazingly fun things I've ever done and yep it's scary fun (and I don't do rollercoasters all that much). If you can get up to Geiranger Fjord, that is the typical picture postcard fjord without too much of a trek all the way up Norway. The stave churches in the area are lovely too.

Oh and if you do decide to go via Helsinki (which didn't cut it for me compared to the other Scandi capitals) go across to Estonia. You can do this as a day trip. Tallinn, the capital, is a very short ferry ride across and the town is completely walkable and completely different from other places you are likely to have encountered unless you've travelled in the Baltics.

You could make quite a trip of this, there is so much to see and do Scandinavia and it's pretty easy to get around.
 














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