Gods and Generals - in the words of Monty Python.....

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Too long, too boring, no character development, no interesting plot line, there mannerism of speech was hard to follow. BLECK. Some lady behind me at intermission says "Well if you know the story......" I said "Lady, I was a history minor, I know the story, this movie is just plain DULL". The battle scenes were exciting, but the rest of it just did not hold my interest.

OVER 4 hours long with a 17 minute intermission, we all fell asleep during parts of it.

I kept thinking of Dances with Wolves, and how that was a long movie that held my attention.

Bring lots of candy and drinks if you go!!
 
We just watched Monty Python & the Holy Grail on DVD last night . . . funny movie!!!! ;)

I don't often listen to (read: heed their advice) the film critics, but Joel Siegal reviewed it this week & said essentially the same thing. He also predicted it would be the worst movie of the year after asking if Madonna had one coming out this year. :eek:

After reading your post, you couldn't get me to see this without a cattle prod!

Deb
 
I read a review by Roger Ebert and he said that it was long and boring. I thought "Gettysburg" was pretty long and boring too.
 
Well have to disagree. Yes its long but boring no. I saw it liked it but think Gettysburg was better.

Want they did with G&G was try to make it more for the avg movie person. The length was a big problem with Gettysburg so this time they made it shorter. When the DVD comes out the movie will be over 6 hours so I hear.

If you are not a Civil War Buff I dont think you will like it. But to say no plot line....Ahhh unless I am missing something the plot is the Civil War no?

Also lets not forget this movie in no way claims to be a history lesson. It was made taken from the Civil War novel Gods and Generals written by Jeff Shaara


Anyway to each is own.
 

Originally posted by Jaypd

If you are not a Civil War Buff I dont think you will like it. But to say no plot line....Ahhh unless I am missing something the plot is the Civil War no?

Sure Jay thanks for giving away the ending!;) ;) ;)
 
Was it as boring as The Thin Red Line? That one I almost did fall asleep in. I can handle long but not if it's not well paced.
 
Here is excerpts from a review on Screenit.com. Wish I had listened before I wasted my $40.

OUR TAKE: 3.5 out of 10
The American Civil War may have lasted five years and taken many lives, but writer/director Ronald F. Maxwell's "Gods and Generals" makes it feel much longer than that, and is just as deadly, at least from a moviegoing experience.
Although this prequel to the filmmaker's 1993 film, "Gettysburg," only covers a little more than two years of the conflict, it feels like an eternity. That's due to glacial pacing, stilted dialogue, some bad acting, too much piousness, flat drama and, with one exception, boring battle scenes.

In fact, there aren't enough fingers to go around in pointing out the various culprits of why this is such a disappointing and drawn-out mess. The earlier film, while not without its share of problems, was at least an engaging and interesting affair.

While thankfully not the rumored (or is that threatened) six hour version that will arrive on video once this effort quickly retreats from the theaters, it still clocks in at nearly four hours.

It doesn't help matters that Maxwell - who's adapted Jeff Shaara's novel of the same name - has seemingly put more emphasis on appeasing Civil War buffs and historians than in delivering a well-made or entertaining historical drama. Most every person, place and time are identified by onscreen titles - which will likely make the layperson think they're something they should note - but after a while one eventually realizes none of that matters (particularly when various identified figures are never seen again).

The result is a filmed piece that plays like a never-ending auditorium film at some Civil War battlefield's visitor center. That's especially true since it's easy to pick out the myriad of Civil War re-enactors from the real thespians and most everything comes off like a history lesson but without much passion or heart. It's history from a clinical perspective and, for the most part, comes off as dramatically inert and certainly less than engaging.

Far more time is given to the various characters from the South, which shouldn't come as a surprise considering that the "mouth of the South," Ted Turner, produced and briefly appears in the film. While Robert E. Lee -- Robert Duvall ("John Q" "The 6th Day") taking over the role from Martin Sheen but mostly phoning in his performance - occasionally shows up, the story is obviously all about Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson. He's embodied by Stephen Lang ("Trixie," "Fire Down Below") who played a different character in "Gettysburg," but the film mostly drops the ball in exploring this one.

While we see that he's a deeply religious man (always stopping to pray to God for this or that), little else is detailed and we never really get inside his character. There are some decent moments between him and his wife - played by Kali Rocha ("White Oleander," "Autumn in New York") - but other material - including scenes where he interacts with Frankie Faison ("Red Dragon," "Showtime") as a black cook he's hired - feel far too contrived and stilted.

In fact, the overall portrayal of black people in the film - as happy supporters of the South - is a bit insulting and probably not historically accurate, much like the film's portrayal and whitewashing of the Southern cause and way of life.

Speaking of accuracy, history buffs will probably wonder what happened to the bloody Battle of Antietam that occurred smack dab in the middle of this film's temporal range (1861 to 1863). The answer is that it was inexplicably left on the cutting room floor, in favor of all of the slow dramatic moments that easily could have been jettisoned or at least shortened to make room for it.

That said, for those not up on their Civil War history, none of the posturing and onscreen titles probably will be of much help in following who's who and what's occurring. In fact, very little of what led to the conflict is addressed. Instead, we're simply dropped into the story that's already in progress.

The film obviously needed another run (or 2 or 3 or 4) through the editing booth to trim away the excess material and tighten the pacing. Far too long, static, pious and reverent to the material and characters, the film might be a dream for Civil War buffs and historians. For everyone else, however, it's likely to be a bust due to its various problems.

If you want to see a Civil War movie done right, go out and buy or rent the fabulous, moving, engaging and inspiring "Glory." On the other hand, if counting sheep doesn't cure your insomnia, this film certainly will. "Gods and Generals" rates as a 3.5 out of 10.
 
Just home from it and I thought it was great :) My wife enjoyed it also. The length is not a problem for me as they are trying to show close to 2 years of history...its hard to condense that in 90 mins ;)
Not as bloody as many war epics, although it does depict battle realities well...nothing compared to say braveheart. They really spend time focusing on Stonewall Jackson and his personality and relationship with his wife. Keep in mind this is the second part of the trilogy, Gettysburg was released first, this was second...Gods and Generals focus is when the South was at its strongest early on in the war.

I found the movie to be very historically accurate, I have studied quite a bit on that era. As far as Movie critics, I listen to none of them, we all have different tastes and interests. :)
 
We saw it in Atlanta, GA this weekend and about half of the theater didn't seem to like it.

I agree: too long, too pious, too plodding, too few developed characters, too many sappy females.

Yes, it is history. However, being in a movie theater, I expected a better theatrical production. If I want a history lesson, I will choose a different venue. When I go to the movies, I want accuracy in historical facts but I also expect to be engrossed/entertained/drawn into the story. None of that happened.

I loved the opening song but was disappointed with the score for the rest of the movie. It didn't seem to work well with the action and didn't help (like in "Glory" or "Gettysburg").

My summary: if you are looking for an historical account, to. If you want to be entertained at the same time, don't go.
 
dh and i both liked it and couldn't figure out why so many people have been panning it. different strokes for different folks, i guess.
 
Just got in and I loved it :D I wonder if the people that didn't like this also didn't like Gettysburg? It's done in the same style, which is the style the books were written in. I can't wait for The Last Full Measure. I just hope they don't wait as long as they did between GBurg and G&G.
 
Despite the poor reviews I will definately see this movie. From what I hear it actually portrays the Southern Generals as human beings instead of evil men :)

Has anyone read the book by Shaara (?) that the movie is based on? I've read another one of his Civil War books, and it was a great read, and I'm looking forawrd to reading this book.

diane
:)
 
The reviews were not good on the movie. Well i liked it alot, but what do i know i also liked the Star War movies and not one of them got good reviews.
 
<font color=navy>:wave: Hi Jaysdad - haven't seen you in awhile!

My ds has been after me to go see this movie. I think we'll rent Ghettysburg first, & see if that holds his attention, then we'll go from there.
 












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