Former Reaganite Calls for Impeachment

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This from a former Reaganite - Paul Craig Robert:

"A Reputation in Tatters

George W. Bush and his gang of neocon warmongers have destroyed America’s reputation. It is likely to stay destroyed, because at this point the only way to restore America’s reputation would be to impeach and convict President Bush for intentionally deceiving Congress and the American people in order to start a war of aggression against a country that posed no threat to the United States.

America can redeem itself only by holding Bush accountable.

As intent as Republicans were to impeach President Bill Clinton for lying about a sexual affair, they have a blind eye for President Bush’s far more serious lies. Bush’s lies have caused the deaths of tens of thousands of people, injured and maimed tens of thousands more, devastated a country, destroyed America’s reputation, caused 1 billion Muslims to hate America, ruined our alliances with Europe, created a police state at home, and squandered $300 billion dollars and counting.

America’s reputation is so damaged that not even our puppets can stand the heat. Anti-American riots, which have left Afghan cities and towns in flames and hospitals overflowing with casualties, have forced Bush’s Afghan puppet, “President” Hamid Karzai, to assert his independence from his U.S. overlords. In a belated act of sovereignty, Karzai asserted authority over heavy-handed U.S. troops whose brutal and stupid ways sparked the devastating riots. Karzai demanded control of U.S. military activities in Afghanistan and called for the return of the Afghan detainees who are being held at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

Abundant evidence now exists in the public domain to convict George W. Bush of the crime of the century. The secret British government memo (dated July 23, 2002, and available here), leaked to the Sunday Times (which printed it on May 1, 2005), reports that Bush wanted “to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. . . . But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. . . . The (United Kingdom) attorney general said that the desire for regime change was not a legal base for military action. There were three possible legal bases: self-defense, humanitarian intervention or UNSC (U.N. Security Council) authorization. The first and second could not be the base in this case. Relying on UNSCR 1205 of three years ago would be difficult.”

This memo is the mother of all smoking guns. Why isn’t Bush in the dock?

Has American democracy failed at home? "

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.or...oberts.cgi


Personally I agree with what he has written 100%.
 
And in spite of it all, they even re-elected him :(
 
And here is Paul Craig Robert's Bio:

The Honorable Paul Craig Roberts is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for Political Economy, and research fellow at the Independent Institute.

A former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal and columnist for Business Week and the Scripps Howard News Service, he is a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate in Los Angeles and a columnist for Investor's Business Daily. In 1992, he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993, the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of its top seven journalists.

Roberts was a distinguished fellow at the Cato Institute from 1993 to 1996. From 1982 through 1993, he held the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. During 1981–82, he served as assistant secretary of the Treasury for economic policy. President Ronald Reagan and Treasury secretary Donald Regan credited him with a major role in the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, and he was awarded the Treasury Department's Meritorious Service Award for "his outstanding contributions to the formulation of United States economic policy." From 1975 to 1978, Roberts served on the congressional staff, where he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy.

In 1987 the French government recognized Roberts as "the artisan of a renewal in economic science and policy after half a century of state interventionism" and inducted him into the Legion of Honor.

Roberts's books include The Tyranny of Good Intentions, coauthored with IPE fellow Lawrence Stratton (Prima Publishing, 2000); Chile: Two Visions—the Allende-Pinochet Era, coauthored with IPE fellow Karen Araujo (Universidad Nacional Andres Bello, 2000); The Capitalist Revolution in Latin America, coauthored with IPE fellow Karen LaFollette Araujo (Oxford University Press, 1997; in Spanish, 1999); The New Colorline: How Quotas and Privilege Destroy Democracy, coauthored with Lawrence Stratton (Regnery, 1995; in paperback, 1997); Meltdown: Inside the Soviet Economy, coauthored with Karen LaFollette (Cato Institute, 1990). Roberts's The Supply-Side Revolution (Harvard University Press, 1984) was praised by Forbes as "a timely masterpiece that will have real impact on economic thinking in the years ahead." Roberts is also the author of Alienation and the Soviet Economy (1971; republished in 1990) and Marx's Theory of Exchange, Alienation and Crisis (1973; republished in 1983; in Spanish, 1974).

Roberts has contributed chapters to numerous books and has published many articles in journals of scholarship, including the Journal of Political Economy, Oxford Economic Papers, Journal of Law and Economics, Studies in Banking and Finance, Journal of Monetary Economics, Public Finance Quarterly, Public Choice, Classica et Mediaevalia, Ethics, Slavic Review, Soviet Studies, Cardoza Law Review, the Independent Review, Rivista de Political Economica, and Zeitschrift fur Wirtschafspolitik. He has entries in the McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Economics and the New Palgrave Dictionary of Money and Finance. He has contributed to Commentary, the Public Interest, the National Interest, Harper's, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, Fortune, London Times, the Financial Times, Times Literary Supplement, the Spectator, Il Sole 24 Ore, Le Figaro, Liberation, and the Nihon Keizai Shimbun. He has testified before committees of Congress on 30 occasions.

http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/bios/roberts.html
 
Did y'all forget that regime change in Iraq was made a policy under a previous administration?

If SH hadn't invaded Kuwait, we probably wouldn't be were we are today.

If SH hadn't gassed his own people with WMDs...

If SH hadn't been born at all.
 

Charade said:
Did y'all forget that regime change in Iraq was made a policy under a previous administration?


Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.........we have a winner here. Four posts into the thread and we have our first "it's all Clinton's fault" rationalization.

Charade said:
If SH hadn't invaded Kuwait, we probably wouldn't be were we are today.

Bush 41 took care of that problem and very successfully.

And if Shrub had asked for Daddy's advice instead of Darth Cheney, 1600+ Americans would still be alive, over 13000 wouldn't have been wounded, and the US wouldn't be holding out the tin cup to the Chinese.

Charade said:
If SH hadn't gassed his own people with WMDs...

And if Ronald Reagan had protested that act instead of sending Donald Rumsfeld with weapons in hand for the Reagan administration's rock of stability, Saddam Hussein, maybe Saddam Hussein wouldn't have got the impression Americans would go along with anything he did.

Charade said:
If SH hadn't been born at all.

And if you hadn't been born at all, I wouldn't have the fun I'm having writing this post, and probably would've saved myself more time in Purgatory.
 
Island_Lauri said:
This from a former Reaganite - Paul Craig Robert:

"A Reputation in Tatters

George W. Bush and his gang of neocon warmongers have destroyed America’s reputation. It is likely to stay destroyed, because at this point the only way to restore America’s reputation would be to impeach and convict President Bush for intentionally deceiving Congress and the American people in order to start a war of aggression against a country that posed no threat to the United States.

America can redeem itself only by holding Bush accountable.

As intent as Republicans were to impeach President Bill Clinton for lying about a sexual affair, they have a blind eye for President Bush’s far more serious lies. Bush’s lies have caused the deaths of tens of thousands of people, injured and maimed tens of thousands more, devastated a country, destroyed America’s reputation, caused 1 billion Muslims to hate America, ruined our alliances with Europe, created a police state at home, and squandered $300 billion dollars and counting.

America’s reputation is so damaged that not even our puppets can stand the heat. Anti-American riots, which have left Afghan cities and towns in flames and hospitals overflowing with casualties, have forced Bush’s Afghan puppet, “President” Hamid Karzai, to assert his independence from his U.S. overlords. In a belated act of sovereignty, Karzai asserted authority over heavy-handed U.S. troops whose brutal and stupid ways sparked the devastating riots. Karzai demanded control of U.S. military activities in Afghanistan and called for the return of the Afghan detainees who are being held at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

Abundant evidence now exists in the public domain to convict George W. Bush of the crime of the century. The secret British government memo (dated July 23, 2002, and available here), leaked to the Sunday Times (which printed it on May 1, 2005), reports that Bush wanted “to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. . . . But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. . . . The (United Kingdom) attorney general said that the desire for regime change was not a legal base for military action. There were three possible legal bases: self-defense, humanitarian intervention or UNSC (U.N. Security Council) authorization. The first and second could not be the base in this case. Relying on UNSCR 1205 of three years ago would be difficult.”

This memo is the mother of all smoking guns. Why isn’t Bush in the dock?

Has American democracy failed at home? "

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.or...oberts.cgi


Personally I agree with what he has written 100%.

Absolutely, Bush should be impeached. Lies of ommission and massaging intelligence to get your country into war is the high crimes and misdemeanors specified in the Constitution for the impeachment of a president.

If there were any real patriots in the Republican party, instead of flag-waving sloganeers, the process would've been started with the release of the British memo. Where are the Barry Goldwater's when you need them?

Instead this administration is looking to circumvent the rights of the minority (48% voted against Bush) to push their rightwing agenda and their looney-toons judges. The Bush administration, instead of admitting mistakes, looks to supress information about terrorism, the cost of the war, the harm to the military, etc.

Bush has to go.
 
Blondy876 said:
Yup, and I do it again.


Our country is in big trouble specifically because of George W Bush and you think it's GOOD? Why?
 
shortbun said:
Our country is in big trouble specifically because of George W Bush and you think it's GOOD? Why?


Somehow, they only see the few good things he does it seems. Its like all the bad stuff is just glass :confused3

So very odd...
 
ThAnswr said:
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.........we have a winner here. Four posts into the thread and we have our first "it's all Clinton's fault" rationalization.

Never said that. I was just pointing out a FACT that some seem to want to IGNORE.

And if you hadn't been born at all, I wouldn't have the fun I'm having writing this post, and probably would've saved myself more time in Purgatory.

OUCH! Now was that really necessary my darling Vicky? :love2:
 
WHY?

Because it is as Abraham Lincoln once said: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

Exhibit A of fooling some of the people all of the time.
 
chadfromdallas said:
Somehow, they only see the few good things he does it seems. Its like all the bad stuff is just glass :confused3

So very odd...

Just like "he who shall not be named"...
 
Charade said:
Never said that. I was just pointing out a FACT that some seem to want to IGNORE.

That FACT is irrelevant. Clinton did not invade Iraq and Bush did. End of story.



Charade said:
OUCH! Now was that really necessary my darling Vicky? :love2:

Shhh............do you have to tell the world our business? ;)
 
It will be interesting to see what develops from this. I do believe that we were lead under false pretenses to Iraq. I also think we jumped the gun instead of having a clear plan of action.

~Amanda
 
ThAnswr said:
That FACT is irrelevant. Clinton did not invade Iraq and Bush did. End of story.


Convenient of you to deem such things irrelevant.

Ok then. But what the heck was that bombing of an aspirin factory in Iraq all about? Iraq didn't attack us. :confused3
 
septbride2002 said:
It will be interesting to see what develops from this. I do believe that we were lead under false pretenses to Iraq. I also think we jumped the gun instead of having a clear plan of action.

~Amanda

The R's own the House and Senate. Nothing will happen. It won't even get much play in the news, but the R's will continue to complain about the bias liberal media. JMO and a bit of crystal ball gazing.
 
mick67 said:
It won't even get much play in the news, but the R's will continue to complain about the bias liberal media. JMO and a bit of crystal ball gazing.

Glad to see that someone admits that there is bias in the liberal media.

Interestingly, a recent accounting of the number of times the MSM used the words "conservative" and "liberal" in news reports was shocking. The "C" word was used about 5-10 times as much as the "L" word (that's not the same "L" word as the TV show).

Makes one wonder. At least it should.
 
I've never witnessed such sore losers in my life. YOU LOST GET OVER IT ALREADY and work on 2008! That is the best thing you can do for your party. All of this bellyaching just makes you look desperate.

Best regards,
GOP
 
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