Florida To Be Renamed New New England
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To extend a hand of international friendship across the ocean please can I take personal responsibility for points 2 and 3. Totally my fault, sorry!
Also, when buying a paper on holiday I'd more likely buy a 'local' one than a British one (e.g. we were rather interested in the Presidential Elections one trip to the US) Sorry if I took that copy from anyone more deserving of it.
The family you talk of from Lincoln, Nebraska being shut out of Epcot would probably feel frustrated that they hadn't made the most of their trip and got to the park earlier on what was clearly a day like New Year's Eve or similar.
Off to save up for enough football shirts for the whole family to wear next trip and, also a new haircut!
I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank all the friendly Americans we've met during our trips to WDW (and shock, other parts of America!) I love the glee you all express at our gas prices, chatting about the exchange rate and hearing all about you home towns, many of which I will probably never be lucky enough to visit! These interactions are a great part of our holiday memories so thanks.
The original poster made the suggestion about a name change because he, too, noticed something amiss. New New England or UK South? It's up for the locals to decide.
My postings were directed to, of course, those Brits who continually come to WDW and see no other place in the US. If you have seen other places, well, then kudos to you--you're well traveled and open minded, and the US will benefit from the cultural exchange, being so isolated as we are in North America. The idea of an ugly American (one who wants the same American things abroad--and I've seen plenty of those during my dozen trips or so to France--never having gone to Disneyland Paris, mind you) extends itself to many (not all) Brits who visit here because they can pay for their trip in pounds sterling, fly into a mostly UK airport (how did that happen??), purchase Pims and PG Tips at the local Publix, keep abreast on what's going on at home by reading copies of the UK Telegraph, visit a British pub, even get a mortgage from a British mortgage company. The only thing missing is cars with right-hand drive. Perhaps now you can understand why I call it UK South.
My suggestion is that if you (or any other nationality) come to the US solely for repeat trips to Disney World, seeing nothing else in the country, then perhaps a lesson in cultural exchange is in order.
For me hearing any one of various English accents at WDW, SeaWorld, Universal Studios, the two shopping outlets, any given restaurant at any given time, Cape Canaveral or Cocoa Beach (in a hotel near the port, of course) has become so commonplace that when I welcome friends and family to Orlando for a visit I say, "Welcome to Orlando, also known as UK South." At first they look perplexed, but by the end of their visit they know exactly what I mean.
My postings were directed to, of course, those Brits who continually come to WDW and see no other place in the US. If you have seen other places, well, then kudos to you--you're well traveled and open minded, and the US will benefit from the cultural exchange, being so isolated as we are in North America. The idea of an ugly American (one who wants the same American things abroad--and I've seen plenty of those during my dozen trips or so to France--never having gone to Disneyland Paris, mind you) extends itself to many (not all) Brits who visit here because they can pay for their trip in pounds sterling, fly into a mostly UK airport (how did that happen??), purchase Pims and PG Tips at the local Publix, keep abreast on what's going on at home by reading copies of the UK Telegraph, visit a British pub, even get a mortgage from a British mortgage company. The only thing missing is cars with right-hand drive. Perhaps now you can understand why I call it UK South.
My suggestion is that if you (or any other nationality) come to the US solely for repeat trips to Disney World, seeing nothing else in the country, then perhaps a lesson in cultural exchange is in order.
For me hearing any one of various English accents at WDW, SeaWorld, Universal Studios, the two shopping outlets, any given restaurant at any given time, Cape Canaveral or Cocoa Beach (in a hotel near the port, of course) has become so commonplace that when I welcome friends and family to Orlando for a visit I say, "Welcome to Orlando, also known as UK South." At first they look perplexed, but by the end of their visit they know exactly what I mean.
Gosh!! And gosh again!!!
Not sure what to say, except that I live in a city where there are a fair number of tourists visiting our downtown area, particularly in the summer. I used to work very close to a number of the main attractions.
As I went in to work, or went out for lunch, I became accustomed to giving poor lost tourists directions to a number of attractions, bus stops, and shopping areas. I was always very glad to do so, because I know that the tourism industry is very dependant on human relations, and that giving tourists a good impression of my hometown would reflect well not only on my city, but also on my province and my country. (And no, I did not work in the tourist industry).
IMHO we should all consider ourselves to be the ambassadors of our respective countries. We need to keep civil discourse not only online, but also in person.
Climbing off soapbox now!!
Not sure what to say, except that I live in a city where there are a fair number of tourists visiting our downtown area, particularly in the summer. I used to work very close to a number of the main attractions.
As I went in to work, or went out for lunch, I became accustomed to giving poor lost tourists directions to a number of attractions, bus stops, and shopping areas. I was always very glad to do so, because I know that the tourism industry is very dependant on human relations, and that giving tourists a good impression of my hometown would reflect well not only on my city, but also on my province and my country. (And no, I did not work in the tourist industry).
IMHO we should all consider ourselves to be the ambassadors of our respective countries. We need to keep civil discourse not only online, but also in person.
Climbing off soapbox now!!
My DH and I have had many trips to Florida and have also visited many other places around the World, the real one that is. I don't need any kudos from you for being widely travelled.
We were lucky enough to be in Florida on a driving holiday during the first anniversary of 9/11. Without fail we were told how welcome the British were and that we were the one nation whose visitor numbers had not dropped after that terrible day. It was pointed out that many Americans were seemingly afraid of travelling.
Is our money not good enough for you and the Floridain economy.
We were lucky enough to be in Florida on a driving holiday during the first anniversary of 9/11. Without fail we were told how welcome the British were and that we were the one nation whose visitor numbers had not dropped after that terrible day. It was pointed out that many Americans were seemingly afraid of travelling.
Is our money not good enough for you and the Floridain economy.
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Um....wow....don't even know what to say.
Wait. I do. I've been to Disneyland twice and WDW twice. And all 4 times I've met LOTS of people from other countries, and yes, I'll admit that I met more people from the UK in WDW than anything else.
And you know what?
They were are amazing, fabulous people. Many of them HAD been other places in the US, some had not. Either way, they were really amazing to talk to.
I think it's no one's business where anyone else vacations, or how much they go.
I think labeling a group of people based on where they've chosen to vacation is in fact, very close minded, which is contradictory to the comment made about learning to be open minded.
Our friends across the pond, keep coming. I like you, and so do lots of others over here!
Wait. I do. I've been to Disneyland twice and WDW twice. And all 4 times I've met LOTS of people from other countries, and yes, I'll admit that I met more people from the UK in WDW than anything else.
And you know what?
They were are amazing, fabulous people. Many of them HAD been other places in the US, some had not. Either way, they were really amazing to talk to.
I think it's no one's business where anyone else vacations, or how much they go.
I think labeling a group of people based on where they've chosen to vacation is in fact, very close minded, which is contradictory to the comment made about learning to be open minded.
Our friends across the pond, keep coming. I like you, and so do lots of others over here!
Frankly, I never really cared about who visited the US and when...until I got my annual pass to WDW. Then I knew something was terribly wrong, hence my research. What an eye opener that was. Having chatted with various Brits while waiting in lines, sitting on benches, walking to and from the parking lots at WDW, I've always made it a point to ask if it was their first time here. For most, it was not, which prompted my second question: "Where else have you been in the US?" Most (not all, so no painting with a wide brush here) were, "Oh, just Disney." That was (and still is) my experience. Your mileage may vary.
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Oops, that was probably me that kept bumping into you when I was there last week. Sorry about that!
I was glad to see the British food in Publix - can't do without my marmite for 2 whole weeks.
I noticed the "look left" signs, and I must say it's really sweet of you to be so concerned about our safety.
"Walt English World" ? Hey, I love that idea! You could be onto something there, mate.
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Wow. Just wow. I typed out a long response to this but it's just not even worth it. 
Oop, that was probably me that kept bumping into you when I was there last week. Sorry about that!
I was glad to see the British food in Publix - can't do without my marmite for 2 whole weeks.
I noticed the "look left" signs, and I must say it's really sweet of you to be so concerned about our safety.
"Walt English World" ? Hey, I love that idea! You could be onto something there, mate.
Sorry, it wasn't me. By the way, do you find it fancifully fanciful, fancying the overuse of the word fancy?
So, if you're about to make your 29th trip to WDW in a period of about 9 years, and have visited no other locale in the US, why not try my suggestion and see Philadelphila? BA has R/T flights for less than 400 pounds, and you can see the first capital of the US. (No tax on clothing in PA or NJ--a bargain!!) Heck, you can even pop over to New Jersey (named after your island) and see where Edison invented the light bulb--something no Disney park is a stranger to.
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WDWpins, I find your tone and manner completely disrespectful. It is not a great ambassador for us Brits to explore your beautiful country if we are going to run into people who judge us every second!
Why do YOU go to Walt Disney World? Why should others not be able to have that experience because of the country they come from? What does it matter to you how people spend their time and money? Who gives you that right to judge?
Lets really take a look into your 'investigations'
1) You say you find Brits not going to other parts of America insulting. Why? What is it to you? Many Brits have never set foot in America, and never plan to. Is that insulting? I find it insulting that narrow minded people judge British people because 'they are all a certain way'- that is a very scary slippery slope my friend.
Plus I would like to add that I have been to New York, Washington DC, California, Nevada, Arizona as well as Florida. I am planning on seeing plenty more of America- if that doesn't 'offend' you.
Plus the fact you are relating Disney to Alton Towers really shows that you don't understand English culture or England at all. Alton Towers in not a key tourist destination, it is a theme park supported predominantly by British people visiting. It doesn't even equate to a Six Flags! Suggesting that it is anything like the immersive experience of Disney is just mind-boggling.
Plus for many British guests, Disney is the holiday of a life time, if they wanted to see beaches or mountains, we have plenty of them in Europe. They go to Disney for its unique experience.
2) You are seriously blaming British people for Disney having a British website?!?! Maybe turn to Disney on that one. America is a capitalist country with capitalist business, if Disney sees a good income in Britain, it will do whatever is in its power to entice custom. Basic stuff here.
3) Again, this is not something to be angry at British people about. If you have a problem with how Sanford Airport does it's business, go get mad at them! They are a business like any other.
4) Again, if you have a problem with capitalism that's up to you. Don't blame British people for using the same system you hold so dear.
5) Maybe the Orlando Sentinel sold out? Maybe there was an issue with delivery that day? I seem to see a recurring theme of blaming an outside group for things you don't like....
6) Again, capitalism at work! If the products sell, supermarkets will sell them. If the products were bad, they wouldn't!
Now just a mention towards the causal xenophobia throughout your response which I personally find mortifying. Not all British people have shaved heads, bob cuts and Manchester United shirts- just like not all French people were berets and have onions hanging round their necks. It is a ridiculous stereotype, and just shows you up rather than anyone else. I personally don't know anyone with any one of those things, and since I was born and bred here, I might know. Yes I have seen people dressed like that, but I don't automatically judge them.
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Why do YOU go to Walt Disney World? Why should others not be able to have that experience because of the country they come from? What does it matter to you how people spend their time and money? Who gives you that right to judge?
Lets really take a look into your 'investigations'
1) You say you find Brits not going to other parts of America insulting. Why? What is it to you? Many Brits have never set foot in America, and never plan to. Is that insulting? I find it insulting that narrow minded people judge British people because 'they are all a certain way'- that is a very scary slippery slope my friend.
Plus I would like to add that I have been to New York, Washington DC, California, Nevada, Arizona as well as Florida. I am planning on seeing plenty more of America- if that doesn't 'offend' you.
Plus the fact you are relating Disney to Alton Towers really shows that you don't understand English culture or England at all. Alton Towers in not a key tourist destination, it is a theme park supported predominantly by British people visiting. It doesn't even equate to a Six Flags! Suggesting that it is anything like the immersive experience of Disney is just mind-boggling.
Plus for many British guests, Disney is the holiday of a life time, if they wanted to see beaches or mountains, we have plenty of them in Europe. They go to Disney for its unique experience.
2) You are seriously blaming British people for Disney having a British website?!?! Maybe turn to Disney on that one. America is a capitalist country with capitalist business, if Disney sees a good income in Britain, it will do whatever is in its power to entice custom. Basic stuff here.
3) Again, this is not something to be angry at British people about. If you have a problem with how Sanford Airport does it's business, go get mad at them! They are a business like any other.
4) Again, if you have a problem with capitalism that's up to you. Don't blame British people for using the same system you hold so dear.
5) Maybe the Orlando Sentinel sold out? Maybe there was an issue with delivery that day? I seem to see a recurring theme of blaming an outside group for things you don't like....
6) Again, capitalism at work! If the products sell, supermarkets will sell them. If the products were bad, they wouldn't!
Now just a mention towards the causal xenophobia throughout your response which I personally find mortifying. Not all British people have shaved heads, bob cuts and Manchester United shirts- just like not all French people were berets and have onions hanging round their necks. It is a ridiculous stereotype, and just shows you up rather than anyone else. I personally don't know anyone with any one of those things, and since I was born and bred here, I might know. Yes I have seen people dressed like that, but I don't automatically judge them.
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What the heck happened to my thread? This is uncalled for.
From my point of view, you Brits keep coming and visiting anywhere you like. You help Disney provide over 55000 jobs in the area and greatly enhance the economic engine there. If you weren't going there then you might not be coming to the US at all. So by all means, keep visiting Disney.
Personally, I love having you around, it makes me feel like I'm in a James Bond movie. I also love having the Brazilians.
From my point of view, you Brits keep coming and visiting anywhere you like. You help Disney provide over 55000 jobs in the area and greatly enhance the economic engine there. If you weren't going there then you might not be coming to the US at all. So by all means, keep visiting Disney.
Personally, I love having you around, it makes me feel like I'm in a James Bond movie. I also love having the Brazilians.
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In total agreement. To me, one of the highlights of our trip is getting to meet people from so many different places. Or even just to hear them chat with one another in their language, if it's not one I know that I know (so, English or Spanish). That doesn't happen much here in the Midwest!
DH and I were at Universal on the Harry Potter opening day (and never got to see it thanks to terrible crowd management but that's a different story). We spent most of our incredibly long and crowded wait before the park opened chatting with a family who'd come from Liverpool just for Harry Potter. I consider most of the rest of that day wasted, but really enjoyed talking with them and seeing how excited their kids were!
Ok - Re-written this post so many times that I just give up now.
Just wanted to say that your icon is hilariously perfect for this post. It's like Lucky (or whichever Dalmatian pup that is) is shaking his head in shock and disbelief at wdwpins' posts.
Well said. It is not anyone's business where people choose to visit or why they choose to visit where they do. The poster that is taking offense to the Brits coming to Disney should not be offended at all but should be grateful to them as they are helping to keep the economy in your state going and in turn helping to keep your taxes down.
For anyone that would like to take the posters advice though and visit Philadelphia, Hershey Park, Amish country or any other attraction in PA we will happily welcome you and your pocketbook.
I do wish that Disney would offer Americans the 14 and 21 day pass option although I understand why they do not. Most Americans can not take that long of a vacation however for those of us that can or have gotten the opportunity I wish it were an option without having to buy an annual pass. However I do not blame the British people for this. It is Disney's decision not the British people's.
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I'm not one for getting in on an argument but the point about the 'British Aisle' in a supermarket intrigued me. We have international food aisles in our supermarkets over here, mostly Polish food where I come from and down in the cities there's a lot of Chinese stuff. Surely something like this would not be unusual in America?
Although one thing I noticed, there's all this talk about 'Brits' and then specifically English accents, does that mean the rest of us are alright to come?
Although one thing I noticed, there's all this talk about 'Brits' and then specifically English accents, does that mean the rest of us are alright to come?
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Personally I think wdwpins had a bad day and took it out on this post ..... after reading your first post I skipped the rest of your posts which all started negatively, because as so many people say, if you dont like what you see first, then dont read on.
Unlike yourself, I will not place all Annual Pass Holders under one umbrella, that your all "Disney Hooligans" and will continue to visit as often as the USA and Floridians welcomes us
I suppose next you will be picking on the fact that there are too many wheelchairs or ecv's getting in your way when you visited.
Because of how disrespectful and just plain nasty this thread has got, solely because of you, I shall not be coming back on this thread. Hey, here's an idea, perhaps if your nasty like this in the parks to all overseas visitors you will be able to turn us all off coming back and you can have the parks all to yourself.... good luck with that.
I actually feel sympathy for your negative outlook, and hope some day that you get over it
Unlike yourself, I will not place all Annual Pass Holders under one umbrella, that your all "Disney Hooligans" and will continue to visit as often as the USA and Floridians welcomes us
I suppose next you will be picking on the fact that there are too many wheelchairs or ecv's getting in your way when you visited.
Because of how disrespectful and just plain nasty this thread has got, solely because of you, I shall not be coming back on this thread. Hey, here's an idea, perhaps if your nasty like this in the parks to all overseas visitors you will be able to turn us all off coming back and you can have the parks all to yourself.... good luck with that.
I actually feel sympathy for your negative outlook, and hope some day that you get over it
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