Does this happen at your child's school?

[livndisney]

I just found out that as a "punishment" at some elementary schools, they sit the child facing the wall (facing away from the class) , i.e in the corner. Is this commonplace?

The age in question is 6-7 (1st grade).
Minor infractions (talking out of turn-no warning given)

 

[mom2aredhead]

It's kind of the equivelent of being put in "time out".
What would you rather they do?

 

[deedeetoo]

They did that when I was a kid (40 years ago). I didn't know that they still did it today.

 

[Beth E. (NJ)]

What age kids? I'm going to have to ask my girls if this happens at the elementary schools. I do know that the kids live in fear of being sent to the principal.

 

[MSSANDRA]

Sounds like a time out. Sometimes you have to face the child away from the class to prevent him or her from disrupting the class. Time outs for 1 minute per year of age are pretty standard after a warning. Sometimes direct timeouts are given for behaviors such as hitting another child.

 

[tkhkroberts]

In my children's school they actually make the child take their desk out in the hallway and close the door so that they are forced to concentrate on their own. I do not like this punishment at all. I would prefer to see them put in a corner in the classroom where there is actual adult supervision.

 

[*love*2*shop]

AT MY SONS SCHOOL, THEY MAKE THEM SIT IN FOR RECESS WITH THEIR HEAD DOWN ON THE DESK ENTIRE TIME ......( dont ask how i know this )

 

[tnkr_bell]

In my sons K class they have them write their name on the board for the first time, then they have them put a check mark next to thier name if the act up again. They also lose their sticker they are given at the end of the day for good behavior. If they act up a third time they are sent to the Principal.

Now if the kid hits or kicks someone then they are immediately sent to the Principal.

 

[bigbabyblues]

At DS' school, they get one warning, and then they have to "stand out" at recess; 5 minutes for each further warning. They stand near the teachers until their time is up.

 

[NemoMOm]

I think that is refreshing (provided that they get a warning) afterall it sounds like TO. My DF works in a bad area and they have to write home for permission (which she says they almost never get because the parents always feel that it unwarranted) for detention. As a result she has had boys expose themselves to the class and her life has been threatened and those are just what she considers the worst actions

Now when I was a kid they used a wooden paddle The scary part is I'm not that old!

 

[Princess Roo]

Sounds like timeout at DS' current preschool.
I wouldn't have a problem with it for elem school, as long as it isn't done in a humiliating way (i.e. nose-to-blackboard or wearing a dunce cap!).
When I taught high school a few years ago I would put a child's desk all the way up in the front of the room if they were acting up after being warned. Separated from peers, but still able to hear/see most of the lesson. And not as much fun for them as going to the way-too-lenient principal's office.

 

[Becky2005]

When I taught high school a few years ago I would put a child's desk all the way up in the front of the room if they were acting up after being warned. Separated from peers, but still able to hear/see most of the lesson. And not as much fun for them as going to the way-too-lenient principal's office.

OK.....but I hope it wasn't science class and the poor girl who was in the front row not because of trouble, just where she was assigned doesn't get stuck with the class troublemaker as a lab partner since the teacher decided the punishment for the child was to move him to the front of the class and there happened to be an empty seat next to the girl! He was SO not a good lab partner let me tell you!

Sounds to me like the original punishments is just a time out version. I know our kids lose recess and I think they go on the bleachers at lunch.

Hard to tell....other than my DD didn't get into much trouble if it were winter, I know she would choose to stay in for recess than go out where it was cold any day, so not so sure how much of a punishment that would be. She got to stay in via a sprained ankle for a month in the really cold weather so was rather happy about that. In reality, I know if they don't finish their homework they have to stay in for recess too & I know my older son doesn't seem to mind -- doesn't work well for the "you have to get this finished or you will be in for recess" answer "I know, that's OK, I don't mind".

 

[pweyl36]

I just found out that as a "punishment" at some elementary schools, they sit the child facing the wall (facing away from the class) , i.e in the corner. Is this commonplace?

The age in question is 6-7 (1st grade).
Minor infractions (talking out of turn-no warning given)

What's wrong with that?

 

[HappyDznyCamper]

I just found out that as a "punishment" at some elementary schools, they sit the child facing the wall (facing away from the class) , i.e in the corner. Is this commonplace?

This is a problem????

Minor infractions (talking out of turn-no warning given)

Is this info from the teacher or a 6 year old?

No offense but time out sounds like a minor punishment and a way of managing a room full of 6 y/o, who generally don't like to be "left out" of things. If it is truly happening with out a warning on the first offense then you should talk to the teacher. If it is a continuing problem with the kid then maybe it is time to not have warnings.

 

[gris gris]

Sounds like timeout at DS' current preschool.
I wouldn't have a problem with it for elem school, as long as it isn't done in a humiliating way (i.e. nose-to-blackboard or wearing a dunce cap!).
When I taught high school a few years ago I would put a child's desk all the way up in the front of the room if they were acting up after being warned. Separated from peers, but still able to hear/see most of the lesson. And not as much fun for them as going to the way-too-lenient principal's office.

I like what this poster did. I don't believe in public humliation either.

 

[livndisney]

What's wrong with that?

My post did not address right/wrong, I asked if it was common.

 

[disneymarie]

I found out that they are doing the isolation thing in our school. Lonley luch it is called. If you have incomplete homework,or misunderstood assignment.

I do not believe is isolation, seperation especially for minor infractions. The younger kids do have their name on the board, rewards and deductions are made. Also good behavior is reward with play bucks and auctions. Kids can bring in somethig, an old book, a coupon at Limited too, barrets or bracelets they make.

For a child especiually a sensitive child is way too hard in my book. If it is a bhild with Adhd, they generally have a TSS, and the teacher can also arrange desk to keep this child closer to her without seperating. Then for sure they will not focus.

I recall stories of the Nun;s taking KNnuckles and whacking them with a ruller unti red and raw....that is corpal!!!!!!
Also desk in the in the hall unless taking a make up work test is shunning....
dianne

 

[K and K's Mommy]

I used to teach second grade, and I would sometimes move a desk. However, it still faced me or the room.

I am not a fan of being paid for good behavior. I did a mini economy, but the kids got paid for doing their assigned class job. IMO kids should be expected to be well behaved, not paid for it.

 

[2n2]

My daughter is in the 3rd grade. She had to walk a lap today on the playground because she forgot to bring home a paper and have it signed.

 

[FSUDisneyGirl]

I think that the punishment you are referring to is somewhat common. However, I think the good teachers make the punishment fit the crime.

I will say that if you heard students were sent to face the wall with no warning from your child, there is a chance that maybe that is not exactly what happened. However, there is a chance that it is true, so maybe you can contact your teacher about his/her discipline procedures and ask for clarification on them. You may even get a response that things have been a little crazy lately, and she is working on making rules/ procedures clearer for the class.

As for the punishment...it depends on the situation. For example, if I have a student who is a class "leader" who calls out something rude or mean, he/she will be separated from the class right away. The entire class generally laughs at/ follows whatever this student does, so if I leave him facing the class, everyone looks to see his reaction to everything I say. So....in that case, I may face the student away from the class for a couple of minutes...maybe to the side, so he/she can see the lesson, but so he is not communicating with smirks/ facial expression to the rest of the class. There is probably on average one or 2 students per class this would apply to.

However...with a quiet child who accidently calls out, I would give warnings and if needed, move them away from the group...but always keep them facing the class. Genreally these students are just eager to learn, and are soon ready to come back, join the discussion, and follow the rules.