Does anyone know what Massachusetts law or regulation (if any) ... ?

[declansdad]

Bicker it seems that you have a wealth of knowledge on this issue. Why did you ask the question in the first place?

 

[bicker]

If you read the thread though, I think I mentioned that I was an auditor twenty years ago. I posted the question because my memory was sketchy and needed help finding the rules. After someone pointed out that they were OSHA rules, and provided a reference, which I read, that poked my memory. Also, I was able to dig out my old auditing notes. (It helps to be able to search for "OSHA" instead of just "water".)

The ridiculous comments attacking me personally are really a red herring in this. Some people have nothing better to do. As it is, it was never an issue in my office, because as I mentioned earlier, the office manager walked in with jugs of bottled water. And it surely was never an issue for me personally. I live 5 miles from work, and can choose to work at home any time I wish. This was always about "What are the rules?" nothing else.

 

[KAMLEM]

Bicker it seems that you have a wealth of knowledge on this issue. Why did you ask the question in the first place?

To stir the pot and be difficult.

 

[declansdad]

If you read the thread though, I think I mentioned that I was an auditor twenty years ago. I posted the question because my memory was sketchy and needed help finding the rules. After someone pointed out that they were OSHA rules, and provided a reference, which I read, that poked my memory. Also, I was able to dig out my old auditing notes. (It helps to be able to search for "OSHA" instead of just "water".)

The ridiculous comments attacking me personally are really a red herring in this. Some people have nothing better to do. As it is, it was never an issue in my office, because as I mentioned earlier, the office manager walked in with jugs of bottled water. And it surely was never an issue for me personally. I live 5 miles from work, and can choose to work at home any time I wish. This was always about "What are the rules?" nothing else.

I wasn't attacking you just curious as you seemed to have gain a lot of knowledge on the subject in a short period of time. I am curious as to why you would have 20 year old auditing notes on the provision of water at an audit??

 

[MassJester]

So MassJester- moot point since the employer provided water, but do you think if they arrived at work and all decided to walk out they wouldnt have been fired? Or should they have maybe asked for some? You know, like adults?

It's frightening how often I have to deal with situations very similar to this. Really.

I'll answer your questions in order:

Would they be fired for walking out? If they were union employees and walked out of a workplace that did not meet statutory or regulatory requirements they would absolutely not be fired because management would be unable to satisfy the "just cause" standard. You may not like that, and I'm sure I don't, but there it is.

Should they ask for some? I think that that they should.

 

[bicker]

I am curious as to why you would have 20 year old auditing notes...??

I used to be an auditor, ensuring companies complied with the regulations that they profess to comply with. The notes I found were from my audits of reclamation plans in Alabama and Georgia. What a rush, going over those notes.

 

[declansdad]

I used to be an auditor, ensuring companies complied with the regulations that they profess to comply with. The notes I found were from my audits of reclamation plans in Alabama and Georgia. What a rush, going over those notes.

Wow, it must have been something. To think that you had notes from a former job in your current office and then to find that water notation, that is something.

 

[bicker]

Huh? What made you think those notes were in my current office?

 

[declansdad]

Huh? What made you think those notes were in my current office?

Poor assumption I guess, I do apologize.

However, it still amazes me that you would have old audit notes from 20 years ago. I would be curious if these companies that you audited know that you are still holding on to this type of information. For what purpose would an auditor keep notes from 20 year ago?

 

[AshleyW]

Poor assumption I guess, I do apologize.

However, it still amazes me that you would have old audit notes from 20 years ago. I would be curious if these companies that you audited know that you are still holding on to this type of information. For what purpose would an auditor keep notes from 20 year ago?

I don't see what is so strange about it. I still have all my work from kindergarten 20 years ago. I mean, it could be useful at some point when I get into an argument on a message board.

 

[declansdad]

I don't see what is so strange about it. I still have all my work from kindergarten 20 years ago. I mean, it could be useful at some point when I get into an argument on a message board.

 

[CandyMandy]

The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit of America.....

 

[bicker]

Poor assumption I guess, I do apologize.

Yeah there's this newfangled thing called the Internet where you can reach across the world and obtain access to data anywhere it is stored.

However, it still amazes me that you would have old audit notes from 20 years ago. ...For what purpose would an auditor keep notes from 20 year ago?

The work I'm doing now is creating software to effectively automate the job I did 20 years ago. So I'm constantly referring back to my old notes, to gain insights into various aspects of the software I'm creating.

I would be curious if these companies that you audited know that you are still holding on to this type of information.

They're personal notes. I keep the information safe (which is why I don't keep it at work, and instead only keep it secured on my own servers that I have full control over. As a former auditor, I know very well how important it is to comply with all the rules and regs associated with safeguarding of proprietary information.

 

[bicker]

I don't see what is so strange about it. I still have all my work from kindergarten 20 years ago. I mean, it could be useful at some point when I get into an argument on a message board.

Hehe... well my notes don't go back that far. The earliest notes I have are from 1986.

 

[declansdad]

ok let's not bicker about it.

 

[bicker]

You're the one who brought it up.

 

[AshleyW]

ok let's not bicker about it.

 

[soupy11]

Has there ever been a more appropriate screen name then bicker? LOL.

 

[bicker]

It is a family name.