Disney's "Frozen" annouced for November 27, 2013.

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It has been revealed that Disney's next animated feature after Wreck-it-Ralph next year will be called "Frozen" and will be an adaption of Han Christan Anderson's story "The Snow Queen". It will be released in theaters on November 27, 2013.

The new film was revealed because of a scheduling conflict with Pixars Untitled Dinosaur Film's release date. The evidence is here: http://http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85436

The movie was in devolpement for some time now, Im glad its finally getting off the ground, but why did they have to go the Tangled route with the title? :sad2:
 
It has been revealed that Disney's next animated feature after Wreck-it-Ralph next year will be called "Frozen" and will be an adaption of Han Christan Anderson's story "The Snow Queen". It will be released in theaters on November 27, 2013.

The new film was revealed because of a scheduling conflict with Pixars Untitled Dinosaur Film's release date. The evidence is here: http://http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85436

The movie was in devolpement for some time now, Im glad its finally getting off the ground, but why did they have to go the Tangled route with the title? :sad2:

There was already a live action movie titled "Frozen" that came out within the past year. Hmmm...
 
Until Disney decides to abandon "synergy" as their most important component and go back to big time musical scores, nobody is ever going to give a damn about their self serving offerings.

Pixar is their only hope and they are being curtailed seriously as anyone can see.
 

Until Disney decides to abandon "synergy" as their most important component and go back to big time musical scores, nobody is ever going to give a damn about their self serving offerings.

Pixar is their only hope and they are being curtailed seriously as anyone can see.

I expected Tangled to be awful -- and I was wrong. They made a great film. So, self-serving or not, I think there's at least some chance they can still make a good film in spite of themselves... although there's just as good a chance it'll be pablum.
 
Until Disney decides to abandon "synergy" as their most important component and go back to big time musical scores, nobody is ever going to give a damn about their self serving offerings.

Pixar is their only hope and they are being curtailed seriously as anyone can see.

Just want to state that As far as I've heard, Wreck-it Ralph is Pixar.
 
I expected Tangled to be awful -- and I was wrong. They made a great film. So, self-serving or not, I think there's at least some chance they can still make a good film in spite of themselves... although there's just as good a chance it'll be pablum.

I think you're talking about the "blind squirrel" analogy and I agree ... But I'm talking about TRUELY incredible offerings produced out of imagination, desire and talent. Tangled may have been good but was it Beauty and the Beast good? And are they capable of greatness in numbers, one after another, as they once were? Will Tangled be revered in 20 years and have the long lasting effects of Aladdin, Mermaid, Lion King, etc?
 
I think you're talking about the "blind squirrel" analogy and I agree ... But I'm talking about TRUELY incredible offerings produced out of imagination, desire and talent. Tangled may have been good but was it Beauty and the Beast good? And are they capable of greatness in numbers, one after another, as they once were? Will Tangled be revered in 20 years and have the long lasting effects of Aladdin, Mermaid, Lion King, etc?

Honestly, I'd put Tangled up against any of those flicks. I wouldn't go as far as to say it's better than any of them -- and musically, it's definitely a notch below -- but overall, it holds its own against any of those films.

But can they put out a string of films that strong? I doubt it. I suspect there will be more "Mars Needs Moms" than "Tangleds" in the coming years (not to mention "Cars 14" and "Toy Story 12")...
 
Tangled may have been good but was it Beauty and the Beast good? And are they capable of greatness in numbers, one after another, as they once were? Will Tangled be revered in 20 years and have the long lasting effects of Aladdin, Mermaid, Lion King, etc?

Quite possibly. There is a lot more competition for animated movies lately. So if you consider greatness by how it preforms in the box office and home media sales, you would have to take the current verse past markets into consideration.
 
I will agree the Tangled is very very good, though not quite on par with Little Mermaid/BatB/Alladin/Lion King streak that went on in the early nineties, but it's still better than some of the later second golden age movies (Pocahantas and Mulan for example). (Most forget that this "unbroken string" of movies was really those 4 listed above, with the next 5 or 6 trying to play variations on the same mold to limiting success. Really the departure of Jeffery Katzenberg and to a lesser extent the untimely loss of Howard Ashman left the true "2nd golden age" very short indeed.

I also am very disappointed the way "Princess and the Frog" seems to be summarily dismissed by many. This movie was excellent, with fantastic songs, humor, heart and characters, a great villian and had the daring to go much darker than Disney movies have gone in a long time, even the early '90s heyday - by killing off a "major" good character. Tangled was better in some respects, but PatF got the emotion down right and I would rank it above Tangled. So, as far as I am concerned, they are on a bit of a 2 for 2 roll. (I am sort of dismissing Winnie the Pooh, which while the reviews were good I haven't seen yet, and though it seems to have captured the charms of the original, is too slight to really push the list one way or the other.)

I would also argue that "Bolt" is quite entertaining, though clearly a notch below the other two. We watched it over the weekend for the 2nd time, and it's quite enjoyable, though much more comedic than having a particularly strong emotional center.

I think the difference here is starting with Bolt, Lassiter and his Pixar brain trust have gotten involved with Disney animation.

Look at the list:
last 3 pre-Lassiter:
Home on the Range, Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons

post-lassiter:
Bolt, PatF, Tangled, WtP

I personally think the "Wreck-it-Ralph" concept sounds more like something that Pixar would try to do. Very experimental and hard to pull off as a really emotionally satisfying film, but I am curious to see it.

Disney's leaders are not stupid,regardless of what many on this board think...they know that with both PatF and Tangled they had in both cases very strong movies, but with the former only modest success compared to the latter's BO - but with both providing strong merchadise sales. With the title change to "Frozen" obviously they are going for a more "boys" marketing stance in terms of selling the movie, but I am sure they will keep their eyes on the long-term princess prize!
 
Eh, part of the thing to consider with Tangled is that it is a CG movie. That might be giving current movies more of an advantage and it also might affect longevity. It would probably be best to keep it in a seperate category and not directly compare it against classic hand drawn Disney films.
PatF was good but Tangled was better IMO. The animation in PatF blows away most of the classics and the music quality was top notch (a couple times felt forced) but I just found it lacking in plot and execution. Loved the determination and character of the heroine and would say it was a superior character than most of the classic princesses but it just lacked with the story.
Frankly I think Tangled was far superior to LM and BatB but it needs to be compared to Shrek, Nemo and MI. How does it compare to them? I will admit that it is a bit of a bridge with classic Disney films though so it's tough to compare either way and might be considered more niche.
 
Quite possibly. There is a lot more competition for animated movies lately. So if you consider greatness by how it preforms in the box office and home media sales, you would have to take the current verse past markets into consideration.

Completely agree, Disney no real competition in the past with its classic animations. Also, every year they make more it becomes harder and harder to find fairy tales people are familiar with to base a movie on as well.
 
:sad2: Whoa, as the Person who started this thread, I was just posting a bit of information on a future Disney film. I was hoping for comments expressing their excitement for Frozen, but I'm surprised that it has turned into one huge debate on CG animation, the quality of recent Disney Films, and the impact of the recent Disney Princess movies in the future.

Would people please stay on target about the new Frozen movie instead of turning this thread into a Classic Disney vs. Modern Disney warzone.
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I think the difference here is starting with Bolt, Lassiter and his Pixar brain trust have gotten involved with Disney animation.

Look at the list:
last 3 pre-Lassiter:
Home on the Range, Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons

post-lassiter:
Bolt, PatF, Tangled, WtP

I would just point out that Lasseter was involved with Meet the Robinsons. He looked at the story and felt it was a wreck. It was Lasseter that inserted the "keep moving forward" aspect and was happy with it. He said that the when the Walt quote would come up on screen at the end, there wouldn't be a dry eye in the theater.
 
I would just point out that Lasseter was involved with Meet the Robinsons. He looked at the story and felt it was a wreck. It was Lasseter that inserted the "keep moving forward" aspect and was happy with it. He said that the when the Walt quote would come up on screen at the end, there wouldn't be a dry eye in the theater.

Yeah, I think he's actually a producer of the film even though he came on board late.

But I think Pete's point is valid overall -- the quality of Disney's non-Pixar animation has definitely increased since Lasseter and Catmull were put in charge of feature animation.
 
Yeah, I think he's actually a producer of the film even though he came on board late.

But I think Pete's point is valid overall -- the quality of Disney's non-Pixar animation has definitely increased since Lasseter and Catmull were put in charge of feature animation.

Agreed. Lasseter and other PIXAR directors and animators are definently helping the evolution of animation for Disney movies.
 
Yeah, I think he's actually a producer of the film even though he came on board late.

But I think Pete's point is valid overall -- the quality of Disney's non-Pixar animation has definitely increased since Lasseter and Catmull were put in charge of feature animation.

I absolutely agree. I just wanted the record noted on Robinsons. Lasseter was on it. I get misted every time I see the end of that film.
 
:sad2: Whoa, as the Person who started this thread, I was just posting a bit of information on a future Disney film. I was hoping for comments expressing their excitement for Frozen, but I'm surprised that it has turned into one huge debate on CG animation, the quality of recent Disney Films, and the impact of the recent Disney Princess movies in the future.

Would people please stay on target about the new Frozen movie instead of turning this thread into a Classic Disney vs. Modern Disney warzone.
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What??? Objective discussion of the mouse's quality offends you? On the one forum where mild debate is allowed? Starting a thread does not grant ownership and this has been a quality and well behaved discussion. If it's just positive feedback you seek, I wonder what is the point?
 








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