Difference in views at AkV

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Thinking of buying in!! Looking at AKV. What is the difference between value, standard, savanna (ok this one's obvious) and Kilimanjaro Club? What are the perks of the club?
So excited... So many choices!

Thanks of all of the help. This board is so valuable!
 
:)Some one will come along with more info I am sure. DVC rooms a t Jambo are located on the 5th and 6th floors. At Kidani all the rooms are potentially DVC. There are only value and KC rooms at Jambo. The KC rooms do not have really good views from what I have read and are located on the 6th floor. Value rooms are 10-2 bedroom lockoffs, so they can be broken down into 10 studios and 10 one bedrooms. You have a chance with savanna view, pool view and parking lot view with value rooms. The value rooms are also about 3 feet smaller that regular DVC rooms. All one bedrooms at Kidani have 2 bathrooms, not at Jambo. All standard view rooms at Jambo are considered pool view, I believe.

To get a Value or KC room you must use your 11 month booking priority because they go very quickly.

I called at my 11 month check-in at 0900 and scored two value studios for next May.

If you check the parks2go website you can see a diagram of rooms and locations.
 
:) KC rooms have, of course access to the lounge there with appetizers and small offerings throughout the day including drinks. There is turn down service in the evening and daily room service. With a regular room you have trash and towel day on day 4 after check in and regular full service on day 8, then day 12 T&T service, and so fourth. I believe KC guest also have access to a special safari or they did....
 
some AKV notes:

there is no such thing as a "value view." AKV value villas are smaller than other villas - they are 3 feet shorter. Value villas are only available at Jambo House, not Kidani - and there are fewer than 10 value 1BRs available (and fewer than 18 value studios available). Value 1BRs only sleep 4 - too small to put in the sleeper chair. Value villas can be savanna view, pool view or parking lot view but you cannot request a view.

AKV standard view - at Jambo House, mostly pool view with a few obstructed savanna view. at Kidani, pool view or parking lot view.

AKV savanna view - views of a savanna with animals. The most commonly available room type.

AKV Concierge consists of five 2BR lockoffs. Three face the Sunset Savanna, two face the pool area. The savanna view is not that great because you are facing a small alcove of the very large Sunset Savanna, giving you a limited view. You are also on the 6th floor where the tree tops block a lot of the view as well. In other words, book Concierge level for the service and access to the Sunrise Safari, not for the view. Concierge villas are only available at Jambo House, not Kidani. (stolen from LisaS)

In general, AKV-Jambo House are all on the 5th floor (except concierge as noted above). AKV-Kidani stays might mean lower floors closer to the animals.

AKV-Kidani 1BRs have an extra bathroom, so that is also a consideration for some. All non-value 1BRs have a sleeper chair for occupancy up to 5.

AKV-Kidani is newer as a resort and has covered parking. AKV-Kidani only has Sanaa as a dining option, while AKV-Jambo House has a quick service option in Mara and 2 TS options in Jiko and Boma.

Park buses stop first at AKV-Kidani before going to Jambo House. DTD buses stop first at Jambo House.
 

What are the perks of the club?

i recommend buying into DVC only if you see the accommodations as a good deal.

any other perks (dining discounts, AP discounts, whatever) can come or go at a moment's notice. they are nice to have but don't count on them.
 
:) KC rooms have, of course access to the lounge there with appetizers and small offerings throughout the day including drinks. There is turn down service in the evening and daily room service. With a regular room you have trash and towel day on day 4 after check in and regular full service on day 8, then day 12 T&T service, and so fourth. I believe KC guest also have access to a special safari or they did....

Yes, there still is access to book the Sunrise Safari that does a special tour thru the AK park very early in the morning. It requires park tickets and in addition to the special tour thru the safari you get a buffet breakfast.

And don't forget the bathrobes in the concierge rooms. ;)

And you have use of the concierge services which can handle making your dining or tour reservations. With online options I don't see this as being that big of deal anymore but that's just me.
 
Thinking of buying in!! Looking at AKV. What is the difference between value, standard, savanna (ok this one's obvious) and Kilimanjaro Club? What are the perks of the club?
So excited... So many choices!

Thanks of all of the help. This board is so valuable!
Ignoring club level there are some differences between Jambo and Kidani. For each it essentially comes down to view type (not I didn't say view because you never know from a given villa). Value are smaller and only in Jambo. They are the only one's where view doesn't come into play on the reservation side. If you like the resort overall, the differences are generally minor but can be important to some. The value rooms are some of the cheapest on property and tend to fill up quickly.
 
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Thanks for the replies. You guys really know your stuff.

I just wish they would have a QS more accessible.
I asked about "the club" and I apologize for not being more clear. I wanted to know about Kilomanjaro Club level. I think it was answered anyway but thought I needed to clarify in case someone else wanted to chime in. I think we are pretty sure we will buy in, just doing as much research as possible. Luckily, we have friends that have been in a long time to ask more questions. I think they reeeeeally want us to get in so are very convincing.;)
 
Thanks for the replies. You guys really know your stuff.

I just wish they would have a QS more accessible.
I asked about "the club" and I apologize for not being more clear. I wanted to know about Kilomanjaro Club level. I think it was answered anyway but thought I needed to clarify in case someone else wanted to chime in. I think we are pretty sure we will buy in, just doing as much research as possible. Luckily, we have friends that have been in a long time to ask more questions. I think they reeeeeally want us to get in so are very convincing.;)
Unless you're overly serious about the club level or value villas, you should be able to get into AKV pretty easily with anything at 7 months out. You might consider buying a different resort to either get in cheaper (OKW, SSR) or give you additional options (all other WDW resorts).
 
Thinking of getting 200 points to start at current incentive. This gives us a few options at most of the resorts (depending on availability at 7months of course). We love the theme of animal kingdom and the kids love the animals.
Would love Bay Lake but costs more per point. Maybe we can add on here and do a split stay.
We can afford to pay cash and not finance but I have a hard time spending this amount all at once. I just try to look at it as paying for vacations (at nice resorts!) ahead of time. Did Disney 3 times with kids and always can't wait to go back.:)
 
Thanks for the replies. You guys really know your stuff.

I just wish they would have a QS more accessible.
I asked about "the club" and I apologize for not being more clear. I wanted to know about Kilomanjaro Club level. I think it was answered anyway but thought I needed to clarify in case someone else wanted to chime in. I think we are pretty sure we will buy in, just doing as much research as possible. Luckily, we have friends that have been in a long time to ask more questions. I think they reeeeeally want us to get in so are very convincing.;)

Something to be aware of for AKV: owners at a resort can start reserving 11 months out from date of arrival. For just about everything at all the resorts, if you try to reserve in the early morning exactly 11 months out from date of arrival, you will get what you want. That is not true for AKV club level. There are only 5 2BR lock-offs (connecting 1BRs and studios) that are club level, meaning at most 10 rooms (if no one gets a 2BR). If you attempt to reserve exactly 11 months out from your date of arrival, what you will often find with club level is that your arrival date, and even a day or two after, may already be gone because members with arrival dates just before yours have already filled the rooms for the beginning time of your vacation. For example, today is June 10. May 10 and 11, 2014 are already booked full for club level studios and 2BRs, meaning someone who has a May 11 arrival date who tries to book early tomorrow, June 11, exactly 11 months out from date arrival, is going to find themselves already blocked out.

In other words, an 11 month window "plus" is often needed for club level and I would not advise buying AKV if your desire is to always get club level. Also, value rooms tend to go quickly much of the the year 11 months out and if what you always want are value rooms then you really must own at AKV and not another resort. Standard and savanna view are open at 7 months out year round except for some risk otherwise Columbus Day weekend, couple days around Thanskgiving, first week of Dec and Christmas week and thus for those you are safe most of the year even if you own at another resort.

Also be aware that you can get AKV in the resale market for a lot less than Disney is selling it for even with its incentives.
 
Thinking of getting 200 points to start at current incentive. This gives us a few options at most of the resorts (depending on availability at 7months of course). We love the theme of animal kingdom and the kids love the animals.
Would love Bay Lake but costs more per point. Maybe we can add on here and do a split stay.
We can afford to pay cash and not finance but I have a hard time spending this amount all at once. I just try to look at it as paying for vacations (at nice resorts!) ahead of time. Did Disney 3 times with kids and always can't wait to go back.:)
I'd second drusba's reminder about the dramatic price different for AKV resale vs retail and suggest there's not a single of the lost options resale that are worth paying extra for retail.
 
I am not set on club level. I was just wondering what it gave you, perks, etc. It's probably not necessary. I was just curious.

I tried to go the resale route but DH is not hearing it. Wants access to member cruise. At least 1 person in cabin must book on points.

We would probably book Savanna or standard view in a studio. I would only like the 1bd for the washer and dryer. Our kids are 8 and 10 and are used to hotel rooms or ship cabins. I would be spoiling them with a 1bd. Maybe when they are older and I can convince DH to add on resale!!!
 
I am not set on club level. I was just wondering what it gave you, perks, etc. It's probably not necessary. I was just curious.

I tried to go the resale route but DH is not hearing it. Wants access to member cruise. At least 1 person in cabin must book on points.

We would probably book Savanna or standard view in a studio. I would only like the 1bd for the washer and dryer. Our kids are 8 and 10 and are used to hotel rooms or ship cabins. I would be spoiling them with a 1bd. Maybe when they are older and I can convince DH to add on resale!!!
As long as he realizes he'll be paying more for the cruises using points than he would cash, that's fine. He also needs to know this is a program that is severely limited, could be removed tomorrow and has considerable risk even if it works out as intended. Point out to him that every cruise will almost certainly cost you more than if you simply paid cash, that the single person on points and the rest on cash (due up front, higher than the early booking cash price for those on cash), that if you have to make ANY changes (dates person) that you have a new $95 fee, that the number of cabins for DVC is limited to normally a max of 10% and that if you have to cancel the points are severely limited (no longer DVC points). You'll also have to buy considerably more points to cruise than just for DVC stays. With VERY limited exceptions a cruise will return between $6-7 a point, for AKV that means you'll only get between 33¢ and $1.33 for each point return on the cruise.

My interest is in making sure you have the info, it's certainly your choice, however, there is NO situation where it's reasonable to buy extra points for cruising and pay the higher retail fee for an established resort easily available resale like AKV is unless one can get a larger discount than currently available, like the 25% CM discount of historical perspective. Comparing a 2 BR one week stay at AKV 2 out of 3 years on points vs that plus a 7 night cruise for 2 every 3 years, you're looking at buying in the range of 200 points a year for option 1 and well over 300 points a year for option 2 at a higher price. In effect you'll pay almost 4 times the cost for the retail vs resale by the time you factor in buying more points and paying a higher price. I could see it for HI, GF or CA but not for AKV.
 
I am not set on club level. I was just wondering what it gave you, perks, etc. It's probably not necessary. I was just curious.

I tried to go the resale route but DH is not hearing it. Wants access to member cruise. At least 1 person in cabin must book on points.

We would probably book Savanna or standard view in a studio. I would only like the 1bd for the washer and dryer. Our kids are 8 and 10 and are used to hotel rooms or ship cabins. I would be spoiling them with a 1bd. Maybe when they are older and I can convince DH to add on resale!!!

Just be aware that AKV contracts are selling in the low-to-mid $60s on the resale market. So as soon as you sign on the dotted line for your direct purchase, that is what your contract will be worth if you need to sell, no matter how much you paid Disney.
 
I am not set on club level. I was just wondering what it gave you, perks, etc. It's probably not necessary. I was just curious.

I tried to go the resale route but DH is not hearing it. Wants access to member cruise. At least 1 person in cabin must book on points.

We would probably book Savanna or standard view in a studio. I would only like the 1bd for the washer and dryer. Our kids are 8 and 10 and are used to hotel rooms or ship cabins. I would be spoiling them with a 1bd. Maybe when they are older and I can convince DH to add on resale!!!

Is that how it is now? I thought it was just that you had to be a member that had some directly purchased points but that you could pay cash for everyone on the member cruise. If that were still the case you could purchase the majority resale, add on a small contract direct and probably pay for at least one of those member cruises if not more from the money you saved.

But I must admit I didn't keep up on the requirements once they decided to make a distinction on the resale points even though we have both. And once it seemed like the special perks on the member cruise were really diminishing and the price was sky rocketing.
 
I just looked it up on the website and the info you have about having to book one person on points does not seem to be correct. Here is what is listed and the special event is referring to the cruise itself:

"Due to the unique nature of these special events, Members are permitted to pay cash for all passengers if they so choose. "

and then of course this bit:

"As of March 21, 2011, Members who purchase their Ownership Interest through Disney Vacation Development, Inc. are eligible to book reservations for all Member Getaways collections. Members who purchase on the resale market after this date will not be able to use those vacation points to make reservations for the Member Cruise."

I believe that owning any points direct would allow you to book the cruise but others may know for certain.
 
I am not set on club level. I was just wondering what it gave you, perks, etc. It's probably not necessary. I was just curious.

I tried to go the resale route but DH is not hearing it. Wants access to member cruise. At least 1 person in cabin must book on points.

We would probably book Savanna or standard view in a studio. I would only like the 1bd for the washer and dryer. Our kids are 8 and 10 and are used to hotel rooms or ship cabins. I would be spoiling them with a 1bd. Maybe when they are older and I can convince DH to add on resale!!!

The 1BR won't spoil the kids...it'll spoil you :)! We bought direct while on a cruise in April (great incentives and DH also wanted the options available for direct that you can't get with resale) and stayed in a 1 BR in Kidani with savannah view. Having that door for couples privacy was well worth it. Plus the 1 BR has a large whirlpool tub in the master bath; soaking in that, drinking a nice glass of wine after a day at the parks makes for a whole different experience. Our kids are also 8 & 10 and they loved their space and their own bathroom. The full kitchen was also great. We only used it for breakfast and snacks but next trip plan on doing more meals in the room. One note on resale though...the prices are going up (yes, I know, so are direct). I had been looking at them for months before we bought and either couldn't find a contract we liked that wasn't stripped or the few we did find already were taken when we called. Whichever way you choose to go, if you vacation a lot at Disney and prefer the deluxe resorts then over time it's a good deal but more importantly the memories you'll make with your kids are priceless.
 
and then of course this bit:

"As of March 21, 2011, Members who purchase their Ownership Interest through Disney Vacation Development, Inc. are eligible to book reservations for all Member Getaways collections. Members who purchase on the resale market after this date will not be able to use those vacation points to make reservations for the Member Cruise."

I believe that owning any points direct would allow you to book the cruise but others may know for certain.

There were reports that being a resale owner precluded you from booking the Member Cruise not only with points, but with cash as well. :sad2:
 
There were reports that being a resale owner precluded you from booking the Member Cruise not only with points, but with cash as well. :sad2:

I've been told by MS that owning qualified points makes you eligible for the Member Cruise, even if you want to pay cash for the cruise. If you only have resale points purchased after March 2011, you are in eligible for the member cruises.
 



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