Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[SMRT-1]

Didn't andyman8 say yesterday that they weren't happy with attendance? I generally believe him, he seems to know what he's talking about.

He also said "consider the source" re: the rumored operational changes.

 

[AmberMV]

Oof

 

[JacknSally]

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That 120 at Tower... I don't like to see that even on a normal day, lol. I wonder if it's been down some today?

 

[OKW Lover]

I love how so many of us are convinced that they are hurting for attendance and so many of us are convinced that there are too many people in the parks.

 

[AmberMV]

That 120 at Tower... I don't like to see that even on a normal day, lol. I wonder if it's been down some today?

I dunno. I had another screenshot from 10:27am (shortly after DHS opened) and it was already at 60 min then. AK on the other hand, is 15 min or less for everything. Looks like if you're going now and don't want to wait you'll want to hit AK for sure lol

 

[AmberMV]

I love how so many of us are convinced that they are hurting for attendance and so many of us are convinced that there are too many people in the parks.

It's so true. The parks are crowded and Disney is hurting. It sounds funny but I think there is some truth to it.

 

[Mit88]

I love how so many of us are convinced that they are hurting for attendance and so many of us are convinced that there are too many people in the parks.

Imagine a world with 100% agreement on all issues. Sounds boring.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

That 120 at Tower... I don't like to see that even on a normal day, lol. I wonder if it's been down some today?

Gotta figure it has been down or something as that has not been having very long lines of late - never more than MMRR or Slinky

 

[SMRT-1]

Imagine a world with 100% agreement on all issues. Sounds boring.

I disagree.

 

[Mit88]

He also said "consider the source" re: the rumored operational changes.

“Closed circuit”.

Sorry if I offend any “insider’s” here, but pretty much everyone has gotten rumors wrong, not just when talking about Toy Story Marionette shows replacing Country Bears. “Remy” had “insider info” and claimed Disney was going to be “more than fair” to APs. I’m seeing the opposite. It’s fun to talk about rumors (especially on a rumor board), but often times they’re taken as fact and ran with as if the rumors are already confirmed.

Yesterday’s rumors (again, Lol at “Mickey ave” replacing Main Street in Disneyland) were basically decided that they were confirmed by the tone of this thread yesterday. Anyone can create an account and say they have inside sources. Adding in an obvious possibility like the cancellation of the Christmas Party is going to make it easier to reel people in to think that the rest of the rumors you’re about to list are true.

 

[parasail_of_congress]

We're "green light" people. We're taking precautions, but still doing life. My kids are actually at Vacation Bible School right now. A local church is doing small VBSes in many different neighborhoods for 2 hours over 3 days.

I mean, everyone can be a "green light" person ... until they hit a red light.

 

[MeridaAnn]

How would Disney have a way of knowing how long you spent in the park? Doesn't it just track that you used your AP for admission?

That's my point - they can't claim that I got a full day's use out of my annual pass just because I entered the park that day. And they can't say my pass was only worth a certain number of visits when I bought it with the understanding of being able to enter as many days as I wanted for the whole year. They can't retroactively tell me I was decreasing the value of my pass when I stopped in to just grab food. Even if I had entered the park every single day I was eligible, I should still be owed for all remaining days on my pass if I choose to refund.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

“Closed circuit”.

Sorry if I offend any “insider’s” here, but pretty much everyone has gotten rumors wrong, not just when talking about Toy Story Marionette shows replacing Country Bears. “Remy” had “insider info” and claimed Disney was going to be “more than fair” to APs. I’m seeing the opposite. It’s fun to talk about rumors (especially on a rumor board), but often times they’re taken as fact and ran with as if the rumors are already confirmed.

Yesterday’s rumors (again, Lol at “Mickey ave” replacing Main Street in Disneyland) were basically decided that they were confirmed by the tone of this thread yesterday. Anyone can create an account and say they have inside sources. Adding in an obvious possibility like the cancellation of the Christmas Party is going to make it easier to reel people in to think that the rest of the rumors you’re about to list are true.

The other thing with any of these rumors is I am sure there are a ton of options ont eh table that have been discussed. So everyone mentioned - up to and including the Mickey Ave change - likely has been brought up./discussed ... but that doesn't mean they have more than a 0.0000001% chance of happening

 

[WorldOfPooh]

“Tenet” cost around $225 million to produce and “Mulan” had a budget of $200 million. Add on marketing costs, which are usually around half of the production budget, “Tenet” will need to achieve $350 million in ticket sales just to break even and “Mulan” would need around $300 million. It’s unclear if either film would be able to reap a fraction of that from the U.S.


This is if they released both movies in theaters. The reason the 800,000,000 comes into play is due to the $20 price tag of renting the movie, and larger families/groups of friends that would typically pay $15-$20 per ticket are now getting to see the movie for much, much cheaper depending on the family/group size.

$20 is too high a price point for streaming.
That plus piracy, free streaming once it's officially unleashed on the internet and it's not a good platform for a big budget movie.

 

[osufeth24]

My favorite still so far on this board that I've seen is Disney won't open til November at the earliest

 

[WorldOfPooh]

“Closed circuit”.

Sorry if I offend any “insider’s” here, but pretty much everyone has gotten rumors wrong, not just when talking about Toy Story Marionette shows replacing Country Bears. “Remy” had “insider info” and claimed Disney was going to be “more than fair” to APs. I’m seeing the opposite. It’s fun to talk about rumors (especially on a rumor board), but often times they’re taken as fact and ran with as if the rumors are already confirmed.

Yesterday’s rumors (again, Lol at “Mickey ave” replacing Main Street in Disneyland) were basically decided that they were confirmed by the tone of this thread yesterday. Anyone can create an account and say they have inside sources. Adding in an obvious possibility like the cancellation of the Christmas Party is going to make it easier to reel people in to think that the rest of the rumors you’re about to list are true.

These insiders are inside and have a history of being right and have been doing it for 20 years. It's not just some random guy throwing slop on the internet wall.

 

[Mit88]

The other thing with any of these rumors is I am sure there are a ton of options ont eh table that have been discussed. So everyone mentioned - up to and including the Mickey Ave change - likely has been brought up./discussed ... but that doesn't mean they have more than a 0.0000001% chance of happening

Yup. There will always be more ideas that have been passed around a table than actually happen in the parks.

And if 1 of the 10 people in a board meeting says the attendance numbers aren’t where they want them to be and the other 9 say that they’re more concerned with operating the park at a certain level of safety that full current capacity wouldn’t allow, the 9 opinions wouldn’t be mentioned, the 1 guy that says theyre concerned about attendance numbers is going to be the “leak”.

 

[Mit88]

These insiders are inside and have a history of being right and have been doing it for 20 years. It's not just some random guy throwing slop on the internet wall.

They also have a history of being wrong.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

My favorite still so far on this board that I've seen is Disney won't open til November at the earliest

well, Disneyland still isn't open ....

 

[Lewisc]

Problem is you cant just add epcot due to the amount of people who will want to hop there.

You could do something like let guests hop to EPCOT if they have a dinner reservation.

I don't understand why Disney doesn't actually drop the hotel prices if they are hurting for business. They offered the 40% off to AP's but the rates are not even as low as I booked last year on an AP discount - and last year I had all the full amenities of the resort! With the limited amenities and reduced staff needs, you would think they would actually offer a discounted rate on rooms to fill them.

We want to book rooms 2 weekends in August and I just can't pull the trigger on their prices. Swan might get my business with their AP discount. Even with parking and resort fee, it's still cheaper than the "discounted" Pop room!

On balance will the discount generate significant additional bookings or result in guests already going paying less with no net gain to WDW.

Lower room rates won't motivate guests who have health concerns, quarantine issues coming or going, international guests who can't go, guests with economic issues and guests not happy with modified experiences.