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This is what I was saying last week and got attacked. People don’t want Disney to reopen until they can go and it’s suitable for them to go

“If I can’t go and enjoy myself, no one should be able to go”

Agreed and that is the real entitled attitude.

Once they can open some thing safely I am all for them doing so and opening and allowing those things they can safely do with whatever measures they things are needed. People can decide if that is something they want to go to or not at the price point it is at.
 
This is what I was saying last week and got attacked. People don’t want Disney to reopen until they can go and it’s suitable for them to go

“If I can’t go and enjoy myself, no one should be able to go”

Because if I remember correctly you applied it to everyone who feels Disney shouldn’t open ASAP. This would be like saying people who want them to open just want them to for selfish reasons and don’t care about safety because there have been one or two people expressing that attitude.

I think the majority of us on both sides fall somewhere in the middle because we’re less like sides and more like a spectrum, and it does nobody any favours to apply more outrageous opinions on each end of the spectrum to people somewhere in the middle.
 
Ironically, we may look back on this period and praise Disney for not putting money over all and throwing the doors open ASAP, if they do end up waiting further into the summer.

We are nowhere near the end of this.

And we won’t be near the end of this pandemic later in the summer either. I don’t think they’ll be looking to stay closed til we’re near the end.
 

That's fine, but many reliable sources say they aren't needed, including many stores. I choose to not wear them or support stores that mandate them, including Disney until they lift the requirements. Disney hasn't even made an official statement requiring them when they open. I dont wear them because I'm not basing my options on the news only facts, which they have very little of, just making people fearful.
as of now masks are required by Disney at Disney Springs
 
And we won’t be near the end of this pandemic later in the summer either. I don’t think they’ll be looking to stay closed til we’re near the end.

Neither do I.

But people are acting as if places opening back up means it’s all better now and Disney is losing while Universal is winning by opening when they are. We don’t know how this shakes out. Unfortunately like you said it doesn’t end in a couple months either.
 
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So far the policies we have seen suggested at parks worldwide are similar. I fully expect this for WDW at least to start.
I always thought the parks would open with Shanghai first, then Hong Kong, Tokyo, WDW, Disneyland and lastly Paris. Maybe Disney is following their own plans and not worrying too much about UO. Hopefully Disney will release an opening date this week. I really sympathize with all of you who are out of state trying to make vacation plans when so much is in limbo.
 
I always thought the parks would open with Shanghai first, then Hong Kong, Tokyo, WDW, Disneyland and lastly Paris. Maybe Disney is following their own plans and not worrying too much about UO. Hopefully Disney will release an opening date this week. I really sympathize with all of you who are out of state trying to make vacation plans when so much is in limbo.

It might be years before Disney ever has a role In opening up Honk Kong again. China just destroyed Iger’s whole China plan.
 
What? Disney was literally soft opening HKDL with CMs last week for testing.
On Friday China passed a national security law that violated the deal that gave them nominal control over Hong Kong. There will be international sanctions against China and doing business with the Chines controlled Hong Kong government will be PR no not to mention likely illegal in most of the Western world and much of Asia.
 
On Friday China passed a national security law that violated the deal that gave them nominal control over Hong Kong. There will be international sanctions against China and doing business with the Chines controlled Hong Kong government will be PR no not to mention likely illegal in most of the Western world and much of Asia.
I don’t think that’ll directly affect HKDL’s reopening. Disney is a business partner with the Chinese government in Shanghai. What makes you think that they’d have any difficulty working with them in Hong Kong? HKDL didn’t close during the protests late last year, and assuming the health situation in Hong Kong continues to improve, HKDL will reopen sooner rather than later.
 
I don’t think that’ll directly affect HKDL’s reopening. Disney is a business partner with the Chinese government in Shanghai. What makes you think that they’d have any difficulty working with them in Hong Kong? HKDL didn’t close during the protests late last year, and assuming the health situation in Hong Kong continues to improve, HKDL will reopen sooner rather than later.
I agree with your assessment especially since HKDL was already making preparations for reopening. I really don’t understand all the implications of what’s happening overseas so I could be mistaken.
 
Neither do I.

But people are acting as if places opening back up means it’s all better now and Disney is losing while Universal is winning by opening when they are. We don’t know how this shakes out. Unfortunately like you said it doesn’t end in a couple months either.
This x 100

this whole thing will not be “all over” until there is a vaccine or at least a therapeutic that proves effective. That does NOT mean we should stay locked in until then. We are at the point as a nation where we need to shift to a new strategy. How to open safely, and leaving those that are vulnerable, susceptible or just plain concerned to evaluate how they want to proceed. Employers should be sensitive to the needs of their employees and provide them with either options for leave or if that is not possible ensuring the safest possible conditions. For example the union contract with the CMS notes masks are required of all. If I am a WDW worker that has no choice but to return to my livelihood I should be able to at least enjoy whatever safety or even perception of safety that affords me. As a consumer, if you can’t or don’t want to wear a mask you are entitled to take a pass while this is required. What you are not entitled to do is unilaterally decide you are above the rights of those workers to a safe environment because you don’t want to adhere to the requirements
 
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