Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Spridell]

Sadly we've already seen people say they would still go

Even when it does open there will be mixed emotions. People will say "you're nuts for going" and others will say "I am going cant stop me"

Everyone is just going to have to live with the decisions people make. Nothing we can do about it.

 

[meremac]

I hope that’s the reason. There’s a popular view in Canada and I think in many other countries that the us is not taking this as seriously as it should. Country is definitely giving mixed signals so it’s hard to gauge where your heads are at.

I get that. It's been pretty piecemeal nationally. But I am fortunate to live in Michigan where we have a very strong governor who took decisive action just as soon as she could. I personally haven't left the house in 13 days except for a daily walk with my kids through the neighborhood. Kiddos haven't been in school for 13 days either. DH is a dentist and he is still going to work every day to see patients with emergencies (infections, etc) so they don't end up in the ER, but he comes straight home after treating folks. And we are now under a mandatory statewide stay-at-home order through April 13. Our infection rate is still going up, but we expect (hopefully) to see it decline significantly in the next week or so.

 

[mshanson3121]

Even when it does open there will be mixed emotions. People will say "you're nuts for going" and others will say "I am going cant stop me"

Everyone is just going to have to live with the decisions people make. Nothing we can do about it.

Yup. But I/we sure know what I/we would like to say/do to them. And it's definitely nothing approved on here.

 

[jknezek]

I hope that’s the reason. There’s a popular view in Canada and I think in many other countries that the us is not taking this as seriously as it should. Country is definitely giving mixed signals so it’s hard to gauge where your heads are at.

Well... when you have 50 independent states that can act differently you will pretty much never get everyone on the same page. Mixed messages from the top are also a bit of a problem at the moment, especially in how those messages are perceived based on the leanings of various states. But yeah, some areas of the U.S. are taking this very seriously, others less so. In the end, that's a bad way to handle an infectious disease that doesn't recognize states boundaries, but it is how our political system (does/does not) work.

TWDC has parks in 2 very different states right now. It will be interesting to see how the Parks handle it. Luckily, the 2 U.S. parks also have pretty different clienteles, so tailored responses can be more justified as well. But I still think given Florida's somewhat unique vulnerability with a skewed population, as numbers climb in that state residents will demand protection. If Orlando starts to look like NYC in case numbers, WDW isn't opening until summer at earliest.

 

[Miffy]

Everyone is just going to have to live with the decisions people make. Nothing we can do about it.

There is something that can be done about it--and that's for Disney not to open prematurely. I doubt they want to, no matter how severe the financial hit is, because far more severe would be what could possibly happen to Disney's reputation. Their reputation is their brand--and that's their biggest asset. I can't see them wanting to destroy it.

 

[JoeT63]

Yeah it's starting to get annoying. I've had in my mind that it is 100% going to be closed for our April trip but I still would like to get some confirmation before I cancel. I don't get why they are a full day behind Universal when normally Universal follows Disney's lead.

And it's giving me hope that our May 16th trip can still happen. My head says no way, but my heart is optimistic. I just want to know. (Gee, I'm the lone ranger there...huh?!?!)

 

[chewlocca]

I just received an email from Southwest
According to the email because I fly the end of April from New York State we would
be required to quarantine for the first 14’days

​ ​ I’m in the same boat. My trip is May 8 but wondering what happens if Disney World opens but we have to self quarantine for two weeks. Guess we are out of luck. ​

 

[Tandy]

I bet they will extend it for 14 days and then after that be like "look we have been patient and done what you asked health people". The numbers will more likely be dropping by then so that will be their ticket to do it.
They are taking a hit but will only do so for so long because no matter what people will come. The place could be on fire and people will come.

 

[Spridell]

There is something that can be done about it--and that's for Disney not to open prematurely. I doubt they want to, no matter how severe the financial hit is, because far more severe would be what could possibly happen to Disney's reputation. Their reputation is their brand--and that's their biggest asset. I can't see them wanting to destroy it.

Disney as a business will make that decision. They will put all legal minds together all their financial minds together and they will decide the date that is right. It will come down to when it is necessary for them to open. It will come down to we have to open on this date or we have the potential to lose everything. Not just disney, that will be for most business.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

There is something that can be done about it--and that's for Disney not to open prematurely. I doubt they want to, no matter how severe the financial hit is, because far more severe would be what could possibly happen to Disney's reputation. Their reputation is their brand--and that's their biggest asset. I can't see them wanting to destroy it.

I would think this would be the case and at that they don't want to risk ruining their reputation ... the optimistic side of me / "Disney colored glasses" is that they are really trying to come up with a firm plan, for the long term, and not wanting to put out anything prematurely with holes/questions/etc

but guess we shall see

 

[Jrb1979]

I bet they will extend it for 14 days and then after that be like "look we have been patient and done what you asked health people". The numbers will more likely be dropping by then so that will be their ticket to do it.
They are taking a hit but will only do so for so long because no matter what people will come. The place could be on fire and people will come.

Yes people will still come but the longer this goes on the amount of people that can go will keep getting smaller. A lot of people won't have the money to go after this. I have a feeling they won't be open til May if not later. I am basing this on Orange county closing down. Till that gets lifted it would look bad on them to re open before that.

 

[Krandor]

Yes people will still come but the longer this goes on the amount of people that can go will keep getting smaller. A lot of people won't have the money to go after this. I have a feeling they won't be open til May if not later. I am basing this on Orange county closing down. Till that gets lifted it would look bad on them to re open before that.

It's more then just the money. Right now I get nervous just going to the grocery store. I don't think in April or May I'd be comfortable around the massive crowds at disney which goes back to the possible modified operations to help with that.

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

Sadly we've already seen people say they would still go

One of the problems, though, is: how soon is "too soon?"

I completely agree that people should avoid going to WDW for now. But no matter when the parks re-open, some will consider it "too soon." If they wait until July to re-open, is that too soon? October? January? 2022?

We're taking a wait and see approach for a previously scheduled trip in October. If things are still dire then (hopefully not), we'll end up cancelling. But (barring government mandates remaining in place) everyone will have to make their own assessment of how much things have improved and if it's enough improvement to go back to life as "normal."

 

[rteetz]

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[Spridell]

One of the problems, though, is: how soon is "too soon?"

I completely agree that people should avoid going to WDW for now. But no matter when the parks re-open, some will consider it "too soon." If they wait until July to re-open, is that too soon? October? January? 2022?

We're taking a wait and see approach for a previously scheduled trip in October. If things are still dire then (hopefully not), we'll end up cancelling. But (barring government mandates remaining in place) everyone will have to make their own assessment of how much things have improved and if it's enough improvement to go back to life as "normal."

100% We will have the debate for months probably when is it safe to do things again. And as you said, you decide what's best for you and your family. No one will force people to go to Disney when it reopens again.

 

[rteetz]

 

[Krandor]

One of the problems, though, is: how soon is "too soon?"

I completely agree that people should avoid going to WDW for now. But no matter when the parks re-open, some will consider it "too soon." If they wait until July to re-open, is that too soon? October? January? 2022?

We're taking a wait and see approach for a previously scheduled trip in October. If things are still dire then (hopefully not), we'll end up cancelling. But (barring government mandates remaining in place) everyone will have to make their own assessment of how much things have improved and if it's enough improvement to go back to life as "normal."

There will be a debate when is the right now but I think it is fair to say while cases per day is rising it is too soon. We need to at least have a week of fewer new cases per day before it should be considered IMO. Then the debate can shift to when it is safe to reopen and there will be a concern of spiking the number again if things open too soon. But IMO that debate doesn't start until new cases per day starts droppiing Like Italy is seeing. We are just about to the point where we may start seeing the effects of social distancing so I'm hopefully in the next 1-2 weeks we can start to see that cases per day start to drop. Then the reopening debate can start.

 

[Krandor]

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Not one I was doing but sad for the runners. Likely still the right move. First of may is likely too soon to be putting on a close quarters event like a race. Feel especially bad for people going for C2C. Hopefullly most can get refunds and try again next year.

 

[Jrb1979]

To give some of you some hope. Legoland in Japan reopened yesterday after being closed for almost 2 months but they are taking people's temperatures before entry.

 

[Goofy2015]

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This is interesting. This could be a France or European thing. I do not think Wine and Dine will get cancelled. However, in January, I was not worried about the Star Wars run being cancelled or Disney World closing. So anything can happen. I do think things will turn around for the better in May / June.

The biggest impact for the Fall will be a dwindled economy. TWDC is going to struggle getting what makes most of their market, which is casual (guests that come every 5-10 years) guests. Their ticket prices work for a strong demand, but the demand will drastically drop in the Fall.

Anyway went off on a tangent. I think Wine and Dine should be safe.

Might as well say it again, Disney do the right thing close Domestic park for all of April, don't be irresponsible and greedy.