Copper Creek & Riviera

Discussion in 'Purchasing DVC' started by Jelly563, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. Jelly563

    Jelly563 Mouseketeer

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    With these two new buildings in the mix, do you think that booking could get a little easier ? or is the opposite true, more points = more people = more requests. I saw that Copper Creek added 40 studios, 33ish 1br, 52ish 2brs & lockoffs. I want to believe that more rooms available to book means more availability for the masses. Small contracts = less days. Are we headed in the right direction ??
     
  2. _auroraborealis_

    _auroraborealis_ I like marshmallows. And adult beverages.

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    Doubtful.

    1. Copper Creek is selling more than a million points against the cabins. Most people aren't buying sufficient points to book cabins. This will continue pressure on smaller units, especially studios. They added very few studios.

    2. Any resale contracts purchased after 1/19/19 will not have booking privileges at Riviera if at the original 14. Most owners sell within 10-15 years. This also means pressures will continue.
     
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  4. Wakey

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    I agree the cabins at Copper Creek (which are available often only a few weeks out) have caused massive availibility issues not only for studios but even 1 and 2 beds at Copper Creek.
    Even 11 months out at Xmas, all 1 beds over the 10 day period I wanted were gone for many of the nights. That is unheard of.
    There will be a lot of frustrated owners at CCV, who need to book smaller units at other resorts at 7 months. In other words, it's made the situation worse.
    There was massive profits to be made though with those cabins.
     
  5. _auroraborealis_

    _auroraborealis_ I like marshmallows. And adult beverages.

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    New units also mean new points in the system. New units don't just make more units available against old points.
     
  6. bwvBound

    bwvBound DVC SSR & other timeshare

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    agreeing with above ... AND ... new owners tend to be more "hot" to book their new timeshare trinket. Old owners might be more relaxed, "been there, done that" and open to choices outside the DVC resort system.
     
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  7. DSLRuser

    DSLRuser Age is a state of mind

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    it will always be the same....past resorts are all 100% declared...therefore "sold out"...as new resorts come on line...they declare rooms as sold.....so...in theory.....DVC is always in a "sold out" state
     
  8. DSLRuser

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    Agree here....we own Copper Creek.....renting a cabin is no where near ever being a possibility. those things account for a lot of points to be sold....but in most cases....cabins dont get booked. I would love to see how often they go unused for points and get rented via hotel side for cash
     
  9. Wakey

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    A lot I suspect.
     
  10. kniquy

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    I do not think availability is going to get any better, in fact with rising direct point prices people can afford less points.

    The price per point is very high and I believe they get many people to buy in to get studios - for example a week in a CCV studio can cost 120 points - so your buy in will be around $20K -- that is a lot but for many it is doable. Jump up to a 1BR for that same week 255 points - now your up around $45,000. There are far less people willing to hand over $45K so they will sell the smaller contracts which means that everyone is fighting for the studios. Which is why studio availability is so tough.
     

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