Comparing DLR's MaxPass to WDW's FastPass+

HydroGuy

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This thread is intended for folks either familiar with WDW FP+ (through MDE) and new to DLR MP, or vice versa. I am going to orient this to the person who is new to DLR.

Note that for several years now WDW's system has been called "FP+" to distinguish it from so-called "legacy FP" which was essentially equivalent to the paper FP system, through kiosks, still available at DLR. Some WDW folks are starting to just call their new system "FP" since it has been around for 4-5 years now. When they talk about the old paper FP system, which is not very often these days, they sometimes call it "FP-" or "legacy FP".

In an attempt to be clear, I will use the following terminology in this thread:

MP - MaxPass, a paid system only at DLR to obtain Fastpasses.

FP+ - FastPass+, a free system only at WDW through MDE (My Disney Experience) accessed through a web browser and/or smartphone app.

Paper FP - Free kiosk based system at DLR, essentially equivalent to the one at WDW which was discontinued around year 2015. DLR still has this paper FP system in parallel with MP.

FP - FastPass, a system for reserving a ride at DLR and WDW. At DLR, FP can be obtained through MP or kiosks that dispense Paper FPs. At WDW FPs are only available through MDE.

A good review of the DLR MaxPass system by @Skyegirl1999 can be found here: "Maxpass/Fastpass: an overview and some strategy" - www.disboards.com/threads/maxpass-fastpass-an-overview-and-some-strategy.3726246/

An excellent and very detailed discussion on WDW FP+ by @mesaboy2 can be found here: "FastPass+ Frequently Asked Questions" - https://www.disboards.com/threads/fastpass-frequently-asked-questions.3491680/

1. Cost for MP: Unlike the WDW FP+ system which is included in your park ticket cost (which means most people consider it free), the DLR MP system costs $15 per person, per day. This is in addition to the park ticket cost. If you get it, you do not have to get it every day of your trip. You do not have to get it for all people in your party. But any person who wants to be able to get a FP through MP must have a paid MP that day.

2. When you can start making FP reservations with MP: You cannot make FP reservations in advance of your visit like with FP+ 30 or 60 days in advance. You make FP reservations after entering a park that day. Your park ticket/AP has to be first scanned at a park. If you have MP for multiple days of a visit, you still cannot make FP reservations for a given day until you enter a park that day.

3. Quantity of FPs you can get with MP: There is no "3 FP" limit with MP like with FP+. You can get one at a time, just like the legacy paper FP system. There is thus no limit on how many FPs you can get. FP+ also does not have a limit, except you cannot reserve a new FP until you have used the first 3.

4. When your FP return windows will be with MP: Return windows function exactly like the legacy paper FP system. They are one hour long. In fact, since the legacy paper FP system works in parallel with MP, the return windows at the paper FP kiosks are essentially the same as you see in MP. Like legacy paper FPs, the return windows begin in the morning and then move out in time based on how many FPs have been given out for a ride. The popular rides with popular FPs will have return windows that move out faster than the less popular rides. You cannot choose your return window like with FP+. You have to take the current window offered or wait until the window moves later if you want something later.

5. Cancelling FPs: With MP you can cancel your FP and get something different if you choose. If you know you are not going to use FPs, it is cool but not required to cancel them. If you do that, then they become available for someone else using MP. Similar to FP+, if someone else cancels their FPs, they become available for you to get with MP. That is a huge advantage for MP over legacy paper FPs where you cannot pick up other folks cancelled FPs.

Note that with legacy paper FP you can use the DL app to cancel the FP. But you cannot pickup other folks cancelled FPs. You need to have MP for that.

6. Using MP while you are outside the parks: Like FP+, where on the day you are visiting the parks and you use your "first 3 pre-booked FPs", you can make more FP+ reservations while outside the parks. For example, if you plan to park hop from DHS to Epcot and have used your 3 DHS FPs, you can make FP reservations, one at a time, for Epcot.

At DLR you can do something similar. Once you are scanned at the turnstiles in the morning, and paid for MP, you can leave the parks altogether, or while in DL, get a FP for DCA. The difference at DLR is that you cannot choose your FP window like you can with FP+. Unless someone cancels a FP (see #5 above).

Another critical difference is that FP+ at WDW only allows you to get a single FP while outside a park. You cannot get FP #5, for example, until you use FP #4 when at WDW. At DLR you can use MP to continue getting FPs while outside the parks just as if you were inside the parks.

7. Paying for MP: If you buy your park tickets direct from Disney, you can add the MP option at time of purchase. You will need to buy MP for all days of the ticket when purchased in advance. If you do not do that, or buy park tickets from another provider, you can buy MP as soon as your park ticket is scanned on a day by day basis. In fact, you cannot buy MP in advance (except through Disney as just mentioned) so you have to wait until you get in the park. And you need to buy MP through the DL app. This can be inconvenient if you want to start using MP right away, because after you scan your tickets and everyone wants to rush to the first ride of the day, you need to stop and buy MP. To do this you definitely want to have a credit card in your DL app ahead of time. For AP holders, they can pay for MP in advance for the whole year for a fee. Or AP holders can buy MP day by day like normal park tickets.

8. Ride photos and photopass photos included: Unlike at WDW where you need to pay extra to get park photos, MP includes all these photos. But they do not go directly to your MDE account like they do if you have a Magic Band. For photographers, they can scan your park tickets like WDW photographers can scan your Magic Band. But for ride photos, you have to remember the ID number of the ride photo and then type that into the DL app or your browser to get the photos. It is thus a good idea to take a quick photo of each ride photo so you can keep track of the photo ID numbers. The photos stay accessible for at least 30 days after your visit. The fact that you get park photos included with MP is a good way to trade off costs vs. MDE at WDW. As of today, MemoryMaker (the program to get photos) at WDW costs $169 when purchased in advance (and $199 when purchased at WDW). That is equivalent to about 10-13 MPs at $15 each. Thus a family of four who visit DLR for three days would cost $180 for MP. From that perspective, MP may be a bargain just based on photos.


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mmouse37

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Thank you, thank you. Went to DL last year and was totally confused with Max Pass. Going again next month and will be using Max Pass again, hopefully with a better understanding of how it works. My husband, me, our daughter and granddaughter (year old) will be going for 3 days.

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  • Winnowill

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    Great thread as always, @HydroGuy - I'd add a point under item #7 that, if you DO get your tickets with MaxPass directly from Disney, you MUST get MaxPass for every day of the tickets. If purchased separately, you can pick and choose your MP days.
     

    cruizincathi

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    We are making our first trip to DL in March. We’ve been to WDW 4-5 times but not since 2009(took the kids on their first Disney Cruise in 2010 and they prefer cruising to parks now). I have purchased Max Pass for our 4 day tickets at DL and, while this above is very helpful info, I still am confused a bit. Since my only experience with FP was the paper version and nearly a decade ago, I don’t remember how we made that work. My question is, how exactly is a Max Pass obtained for our group of 3? I have all of the tickets loaded on the app on my phone. My daughters are 18 and 21, so I have no concerns about giving them access-just haven’t gone through the process to download their tickets onto their phones. Do I have to scan each ticket to obtain 3 Max Passes or do I just scan one-but all 3 of us can return at the time given? If I have to do all 3, doesn’t that take some time to organize? What if different return times are listed?

    Maybe these are things that will make sense when I actually try it, but hoping to have a better understanding before we travel to CA.
     

    HydroGuy

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    We are making our first trip to DL in March. We’ve been to WDW 4-5 times but not since 2009(took the kids on their first Disney Cruise in 2010 and they prefer cruising to parks now). I have purchased Max Pass for our 4 day tickets at DL and, while this above is very helpful info, I still am confused a bit. Since my only experience with FP was the paper version and nearly a decade ago, I don’t remember how we made that work. My question is, how exactly is a Max Pass obtained for our group of 3? I have all of the tickets loaded on the app on my phone. My daughters are 18 and 21, so I have no concerns about giving them access-just haven’t gone through the process to download their tickets onto their phones. Do I have to scan each ticket to obtain 3 Max Passes or do I just scan one-but all 3 of us can return at the time given? If I have to do all 3, doesn’t that take some time to organize? What if different return times are listed?

    Maybe these are things that will make sense when I actually try it, but hoping to have a better understanding before we travel to CA.
    I think the MP thread linked in the OP answers this:

    A good review of the DLR MaxPass system by @Skyegirl1999 can be found here: "Maxpass/Fastpass: an overview and some strategy" - www.disboards.com/threads/maxpass-fastpass-an-overview-and-some-strategy.3726246/
     
  • ThistleMae

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    One more question, not quite sure about. If you buy from Disney, you can buy MP right away, but if buying from another vendor, you have to have the app and purchase when u enter the park...but don't you still have to enter the park first, to start accessing MP, whether you buy from Disney or not? So the only diff. I see is that you have to take a few extra minutes to purchase the MP, is this correct?
     

    Skyegirl1999

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    One more question, not quite sure about. If you buy from Disney, you can buy MP right away, but if buying from another vendor, you have to have the app and purchase when u enter the park...but don't you still have to enter the park first, to start accessing MP, whether you buy from Disney or not? So the only diff. I see is that you have to take a few extra minutes to purchase the MP, is this correct?
    Yes, if you don’t have Maxpass included in your ticket purchase, you have to buy it after you enter each day. Assuming that there are no tech issues, it should only take seconds or minutes to purchase Maxpass.

    Either way, you can’t book any FPs until you enter one of the parks.
     

    ThistleMae

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    Yes, if you don’t have Maxpass included in your ticket purchase, you have to buy it after you enter each day. Assuming that there are no tech issues, it should only take seconds or minutes to purchase Maxpass.

    Either way, you can’t book any FPs until you enter one of the parks.
    Oh, so you have to buy it day by day, vs buying it all at once through Disney.
     
  • HydroGuy

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    Oh, so you have to buy it day by day, vs buying it all at once through Disney.
    One of the advantages of day by day is that you may not need it some days. Like if you arrive at DLR and your first day is just an evening. Maybe all you want to do is go in the parks, shop, have a meal or see a show. So no need for MP that day. You will save a little money vs. buying it through Disney and having to pay for all days in advance.

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    LizzyS

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    Great thread, @HydroGuy!

    I live on the West coast and am usually a yearly DLR visitor, but due to trip timing, I actually experienced FP+ at WDW first before I experienced MP at DLR. WDW people, don't fret, Maxpass is ridiculously easy and I like it better than FP+, honestly. I think MP enables you to better utilize your time, though planning them in advance with FP+ at WDW was also fun for me, if I'm being honest.
     

    jeffg4

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    I'm sorry - just a quick clarification question. If I'm the only one that is going to be obtaining MP's for my party of four, I need to purchase four MP's even though the other three won't need to access the MP system, correct? Or can I get away with purchasing one MP?
     

    twodogs

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    I'm sorry - just a quick clarification question. If I'm the only one that is going to be obtaining MP's for my party of four, I need to purchase four MP's even though the other three won't need to access the MP system, correct? Or can I get away with purchasing one MP?
    Everyone who wants a FP has to purchase MP if you want to get them through the MP system. So you each need to buy it each day you want to use it. One person can manage them all, but each person has to pay for MP.
     

    jeffg4

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    Everyone who wants a FP has to purchase MP if you want to get them through the MP system. So you each need to buy it each day you want to use it. One person can manage them all, but each person has to pay for MP.
    Thank you!
     

    HydroGuy

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    Everyone who wants a FP has to purchase MP if you want to get them through the MP system. So you each need to buy it each day you want to use it. One person can manage them all, but each person has to pay for MP.
    100% correct.

    In some case not everyone wants to get FPs (maybe you have a 3-year-old in your group, or grandma and grandpa are along and they don't do intense rides), you just buy MP for each park ticket that you want to be able to get FPs for using MP.

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    ThistleMae

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    One of the advantages of day by day is that you may not need it some days. Like if you arrive at DLR and your fist day is just an evening. Maybe all you want to do is go in the parks, shop, have a meal or see a show. So no need for MP that day. You will save a little money vs. buying it through Disney and having to pay for all days in advance.

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    OH, that makes sense. Good points.
     

    PHXscuba

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    Having the payment method already loaded on the card is important. I will add that you will still need the 3-digit security code from the back of the card at the time you purchase MaxPass. I didn't know before so I was walking down Main Street fishing out my card while activating MaxPass and getting to the rope!

    PHXscuba
     

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