CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[Jonfw2]

I mean, I agree with both sides. I absolutely feel like doctors, nurses, and anyone else that works in a healthcare or elderly care setting should be priority #1, but with limited supply available at first, it does seem to make more sense to vaccinate the younger crowd who has a higher risk of spreading the virus to all these old people.

Oh, I agree that it's more logical.

 

[DLgal]

Plus, it's probably less likely that the younger age group will experience severe side effects from the vaccine, which could serve to raise confidence in it. If we vaccinate the elderly at large and see bad outcomes due to age/underlying health conditions, people will be afraid of the vaccine. That could be a devastating blow to the whole program.

 

[DeniseJH]

For me, the best case scenario is that people see after a few weeks that their friends and relatives are not dying and they lose their fear and get it. Second best case scenario is that businesses, entertainment venues, etc require you to be vaccinated to participate.

Agreed.

So yeah though - it's fear, not a desire to see the virus go on and on with more people dying that has many not quite excited about the speed at which these vaccines are being developed. Gotta watch the hyperbole.

 

[wenrob]

I read an interesting opinion piece that said rather than vaccinating the "high risk" people like the elderly first, we should instead vaccinate the "social butterflies." I.E. the people most at risk of being super spreaders or attending superspreader events. Increasingly, it has become clear that superspreader events are fueling this pandemic. Let's vaccinate everyone, say 18-35, first. This group is most likely to continue socializing and spreading the virus. If we can get first responders and this group of people vaccinated, the virus spread will slow way down.

We may have read the same piece. I mean, it makes sense. There are way more of them and whether by choice or circumstance (for instance my DD *has* to work UI is dried up) they are the ones out in the world. You get them taken care of and it’s much safer for us to wait our turn in line IMO.

 

[rjb123]

I can definitely speak on that. When we were first interviewed for the Moderna trial, they made it very clear that while they could not force us to go out and do stuff, it was very, very helpful if we did. They asked us a number of questions regarding our potential exposure. My wife and I have a daughter in every day in person school and I go to the gym. So we were in. If we had told them that we were sitting in the basement all day, they would have rejected us from the study.

You did the Moderna trial? I thought you were the Pfizer? I am so so anxious to get this out there- I wish I had jumped on doing a study.

 

[Jonfw2]

You did the Moderna trial? I thought you were the Pfizer? I am so so anxious to get this out there- I wish I had jumped on doing a study.

No issue there- they are very similar. Same technology. The study has definitely been a great experience!

 

[rjb123]

Question regarding the vaccine. Since it recognizes the spike part of the COVID virus, wouldn't it also potentially protect from some mutations of the virus? As in this might actually be better long term than a typical vaccine as it might protect against multiple strains? Any thoughts?

 

[Pyotr]

Can I take both vaccines?

 

[Jonfw2]

Question regarding the vaccine. Since it recognizes the spike part of the COVID virus, wouldn't it also potentially protect from some mutations of the virus? As in this might actually be better long term than a typical vaccine as it might protect against multiple strains? Any thoughts?

Excellent question! Pfizer said in their announcement that they will be able to modify their vaccine within a few weeks as mutations develop.

 

[NotUrsula]

Can I take both vaccines?

Not being a virologist, I don't know if it would be a retroviral conflict, but in practical terms, I don't think that's going to be an option for quite a while. The rollout to as many Americans as possible is going to be difficult enough without anyone double-dipping (for I'd guess a full year.)

Also, I don't think the companies would want anyone to do it, because it would introduce an extra error factor into the follow-up data being collected.

 

[Allison]

there are people out there who believe that these vaccines are simply a way for Bill Gates to inject them with some sort of tracking device.

I am a relative of one of those people.

I saw a new one over the weekend. They believe covid isn't real and the vaccine will be a way to alter people's DNA to make them worship satan.

 

[Jonfw2]

Can I take both vaccines?

This question seems to be coming up a lot lately, as people are more aware than ever of what specific vaccines are what. And there will be push for "I want X instead of Y!"

The likelihood though is you will take what you get based on availability. At least for a while, probably the first full year or more.

 

[Jonfw2]

I am a relative of one of those people.

I saw a new one over the weekend. They believe covid isn't real and the vaccine will be a way to alter people's DNA to make them worship satan.

Hard for me to say as my wife and I both already worshipped Satan before the trial.

 

[gwynne]

This question seems to be coming up a lot lately, as people are more aware than ever of what specific vaccines are what. And there will be push for "I want X instead of Y!"

The likelihood though is you will take what you get based on availability. At least for a while, probably the first full year or more.

Some availability may be based on storage requirements. The Pfizer vaccine might be better for mass vaccinations, like at military instillations, prisons, or entire hospitals.
The Moderna (or others) might be easier to store for pharmacies or physicians offices.

 

[skeeter31]

Some availability may be based on storage requirements. The Pfizer vaccine might be better for mass vaccinations, like at military instillations, prisons, or entire hospitals.
The Moderna (or others) might be easier to store for pharmacies or physicians offices.

That’s what you have to hope for, a wide variety and range of vaccines that will be best suited to different areas of the world. We have 2 now, with a few more out there that haven’t released their results yet. But the more, the better. Then they can be shipped to different areas and help the most people.

 

[NFLDERS]

I can definitely speak on that. When we were first interviewed for the Moderna trial, they made it very clear that while they could not force us to go out and do stuff, it was very, very helpful if we did. They asked us a number of questions regarding our potential exposure. My wife and I have a daughter in every day in person school and I go to the gym. So we were in. If we had told them that we were sitting in the basement all day, they would have rejected us from the study.

Thanks for your service.

Do you think it will be optional? I would hope people have a choice, considering it was rushed warp speed style. The only people I personally know who will be lining up for it are my in laws, who will not resume normal life without it!

May all 'we seniors' not be painted with the same brush. Personally unless mandated to be vaccinated and if there is a shortage, this senior will forgoe a shot so a younger person can receive it.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Excellent question! Pfizer said in their announcement that they will be able to modify their vaccine within a few weeks as mutations develop.

I read or heard somewhere from an expert on vaccines that one of the reasons we "lucked out" with this virus is that it doesn't mutate quickly at all....which allowed them to produce such successful vaccines so far.

 

[Jonfw2]

I read or heard somewhere from an expert on vaccines that one of the reasons we "lucked out" with this virus is that it doesn't mutate quickly at all....which allowed them to produce such successful vaccines so far.

https://www.reuters.com/article/hea...more-vulnerable-to-new-vaccines-idUSL1N2I21WZ

 

[dvcgirl67]

Some availability may be based on storage requirements. The Pfizer vaccine might be better for mass vaccinations, like at military instillations, prisons, or entire hospitals.
The Moderna (or others) might be easier to store for pharmacies or physicians offices.

Yes...just listening to the news and the Moderna vaccine doesn't need to be kept as cold, and can be kept at refrigeration for a number of hours...I think 36, and can even be kept at room temperature for up to 12 hours. That's a big deal.

 

[sam_gordon]

My post that kicked this all off was from a vaccine expert- literally, a vaccine inventor- who said the most dangerous part of getting a vaccine is driving to the pharmacy to get the vaccine. That is the literal expert opinion here.

And I asked what vaccine was he talking about... one out for decades with MILLIONS of data points, or one that has had two months of study.