Can you add an extra person onto the Deed for an add on?

[Rpsemont]

We're thinking of doing the 120 point add on and I was wondering if we could add BIL onto the deed. He usually travels with us and it would be great for him to be able to get the discounted AP

 

[sheryl0521]

remember that the current AP discount is listed as a 2005 perk and my not be available in the future.
I think all add-ons are to the original contracts and go along with the original contract owners only.

 

[JimMIA]

You might want to edit your thread title. You made a typo and put "dde" instead of deed. Many people will think you're inquiring about the Disney Dining Experience card and may not read your post if that discount doesn't interest them.

 

[CarolMN]

If you add him to the deed, he will "own" the add on with you and your spouse (even if he did not pay for any part of it. Are you comfortable with that?

For example, if he ever files for bankruptcy, gets (married or divorced), you will probably need to hire an attorney to protect your add on. It also could cause additonal "hassles" if you ever want to sell the contract - what if he doesn't?

If it were me, I wouldn't do this just to get a $100 - $125 perk that may or may not continue past 2005. Probably better to just "subsidize" your BIL's ticket yourself (if he can't afford the regular price on his own). JMHO. YMMV.

Best wishes-

 

[dianeschlicht]

Just wanted to add that unless you DBIL lives with you and has an ID proving that, he will not be eligible for the discount.

 

[Rpsemont]

For example, if he ever files for bankruptcy, gets (married or divorced), you will probably need to hire an attorney to protect your add on. It also could cause additonal "hassles" if you ever want to sell the contract - what if he doesn't?

I'm glad somebody's thinking it through.

You might want to edit your thread title. You made a typo and put "dde" instead of deed. Many people will think you're inquiring about the Disney Dining Experience card and may not read your post if that discount doesn't interest them.

Did that. Thanks

Just wanted to add that unless you DBIL lives with you and has an ID proving that, he will not be eligible for the discount.

Just curious, if my sister and I (who live in different state) decided to buy a single allotment of points together, wouldn't we both be elligible for the deal - even though we have different addresses?

 

[dianeschlicht]

Just curious, if my sister and I (who live in different state) decided to buy a single allotment of points together, wouldn't we both be elligible for the deal - even though we have different addresses?

Good question! I don't exactly know how DVC handles owners who live at two different addresses. That might be a question for your guide. I do know that if you add BIL to your deed, you will have to go through a process that is not without cost.

 

[pluto109]

add ons have to be the same owners name as your first contract..unless you change the deed before the add on.all names on the deed can get AP discount..upto six familes..just talked to my guide about this

 

[dianeschlicht]

add ons have to be the same owners name as your first contract..unless you change the deed before the add on.all names on the deed can get AP discount..upto six familes..just talked to my guide about this

Thanks for passing that on! Good information to know. Our adult children are listed as associates on our contract, but I don't think they qualify for the AP discount, because they don't live with us.

 

[Chuck S]

If two people who don;t live together are both listed as owners,then both should be eligible for the AP discount, since both would have a blue member card. Associates, however, do not have an actual DVC membership card issued in their name.

 

[BEACHCLUBVILLAS]

We're thinking of doing the 120 point add on and I was wondering if we could add BIL onto the deed. He usually travels with us and it would be great for him to be able to get the discounted AP

Make it a 150 separate contract and you are golden. Assuming you have thought through all the stuff you've been warned about. I'd keep the same use year though to keep the blending of points as simple as possible.

 

[Tramp68]

We just recently did this as a matter of fact.

My wife and I became DVC owners by adding on to my parents OKW account. I am named first on the deed my wife second and my father is third. All dues and payments come out of my checking account. We did this to take advantage of the add on incentive at SSR.

DW and I are now FULL DVC members, are entitled to all perks incuding the AP discount even though we are at different addresses. We confirmed this with our guide and spoke to his manager as well to be sure of this fact, otherwise we would have bought seperately, the 200 bonus points wouldnt have been worth it

I understand the concern about BIL decaring bankruptcy etc, BUT, why not have him purchase a 25 point add-on. This way it isnt a big deal for you to lose it or to take it over etc. It will also allow him to take a 5 day studio trip once every 2 years or so.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Great information! Good to know.

 

[Doctor P]

Let the games begin.

 

[BEACHCLUBVILLAS]

We just recently did this as a matter of fact.

My wife and I became DVC owners by adding on to my parents OKW account. I am named first on the deed my wife second and my father is third. All dues and payments come out of my checking account. We did this to take advantage of the add on incentive at SSR.

Do I understand correctly that your parents had an OKW contract. Then, you and your wife did an add on to their contract with fewer than 150 points and were allowed to put different names on the add on contract as long as it had one name from original contract?

 

[Tramp68]

Do I understand correctly that your parents had an OKW contract. Then, you and your wife did an add on to their contract with fewer than 150 points and were allowed to put different names on the add on contract as long as it had one name from original contract?

Yes, We added on 2 seperate 120 point SSR contracts so we could get the 200 bonus points. This was added on to their OKW contract. My father's name is listed 3rd after mine and DWs. We now have our own membership number and points are seperate from the original contract. The only "drawback" is that my father also has control of our points. Not that we are worried about that.

 

[LIFERBABE]

Yes, We added on 2 seperate 120 point SSR contracts so we could get the 200 bonus points. This was added on to their OKW contract. My father's name is listed 3rd after mine and DWs. We now have our own membership number and points are seperate from the original contract. The only "drawback" is that my father also has control of our points. Not that we are worried about that.

For those wondering how this was accomplished.......

This is a new contract because Tramp68 DF purchased the minimum 150 points. By listing the father, the contracts qualified for the add-on bonus points. They are 2 separate 120 point contracts, but they meet the minimum required.

As long as an existing member purchases an additional interest, it is considered an add-on. Even when they are purchasing a completely new membership as explained here.

In DVC's eyes, the father basically purchased 2 additional new contracts, met the 150 requirement, and was able to configure the deed how they wanted it. The father will now have 2 membership numbers and contracts. If Tramp68 ever wants to add-on more points smaller than 150, they will always have to carry the father on those additional small contracts too.

For add-ons of less than 150 points, the names on the original deed cannot be changed.

I had a similar issue with my recent add-on, and purchased an additional 150 points in my name only (for estate planning). I also wanted a different UY so that was another reason for the separate contract. If I purchased less than 150, I would have had to carry DH on the add-on (just like on our original contract) and keep the same UY. I purchased 150 but divided them into 75 point contracts and still received the 100 bonus points so as long as you total 120 or more you will receive the bonus points for each set.

HTH

 

[Merilyn]

We have 4 owners, myself, sister and my 2 children. We all live at different addresses. As long as you are a owner it doesn't matter if you live together. They own all points just as I do but only the people living in the same house as the owner has the discount. My children were added to the contracts when they reached 21 and we didn't get an addon to do it. We met with a DVC rep at OKW and signed all the papers. It was simple but not free. It cost us a few hundred dollars.

 

[Dean]

Just wanted to add that unless you DBIL lives with you and has an ID proving that, he will not be eligible for the discount.

I've said it before, as long as you are an owner, you get the discount. I have been told that 4 is the most owners you can have but have not confirmed that. If so, you could get up to 32 AP/PAP discounts per year given the right circumstances.

Make it a 150 separate contract and you are golden. Assuming you have thought through all the stuff you've been warned about. I'd keep the same use year though to keep the blending of points as simple as possible.

There are advantages to having them under one number.

LIFERBABE, I don't think your are correct. I believe to be a new separate contract, one of the contracts must be 150 itself, not just the total purchase equal or exceed 150 points. In this case I bet they changed the ENTIRE contract to have all the people on it. Tramp68 can confirm or deny but I'm really doubtful that they added their names to the add ons without adding them to the original. Then the question would be whether they did a new deed for the existing contract with the new members on it.

 

[Tramp68]

LIFERBABE, I don't think your are correct. I believe to be a new separate contract, one of the contracts must be 150 itself, not just the total purchase equal or exceed 150 points. In this case I bet they changed the ENTIRE contract to have all the people on it. Tramp68 can confirm or deny but I'm really doubtful that they added their names to the add ons without adding them to the original. Then the question would be whether they did a new deed for the existing contract with the new members on it.

There was nothing at all done to the original contract. The only paperwork that went through was that of the 2 add ons. We never were nor were we added to the original contract. (Off paper we did own 55 of their 70 point add on)

The father will now have 2 membership numbers and contracts. If Tramp68 ever wants to add-on more points smaller than 150, they will always have to carry the father on those additional small contracts too.
For add-ons of less than 150 points, the names on the original deed cannot be changed

The original plan was for them to quit-claim the 70 point add on contract to us so that we may do a 120 point add on. Also the names on that 70 point contract were going to be changed to just read DW and I.


I also want to point out here that DW and I intended to purchase SSR on our own when we visited OKW in Feb of this year. My Father called his guide to see if he could get us a better deal. BOTH of the plans I have metioned above were devised by their guide and approved through his manager.

1. You can change names on deeds smaller than 150 points.

2. You can add on to deeds smaller than 150 points.

3. You cannot split or combine deeds once they are created. (We tried getting them to "split off" our 55 points from my parents 210 point Master or 70 point add on but was told there was NO way it could be done.