Biometric System ??

[poohbear2]

Am I understanding this right?? I was just reading info on Ticketmania and they have written under the ticket explanations that everyone has to scan their two fingers. Noone will be able to use other people's passes??? Is this true? I mean, isn't this going overboard?? Does this mean if my mother passes away and she has five days left on her ticket noone can use it??? I know your not suppose to use other peoples tickets, but when its your own family....???

 

[ophie]

Yes, this means you can't use other people's tickets. I'm not sure about deaths and tickets. I don't think it's necessarily going overboard... Disney's just trying to protect themselves.

 

[poohbear2]

Does this slow entry into the parks? Has anyone had any problems where their prints did not take?

 

[CleveRocks]

Does this slow entry into the parks? Has anyone had any problems where their prints did not take?

It's not a finger print, it's a scan of the size and relative proportions of two of your fingers. Read more about it at

http://www.allearsnet.com/pl/fingerscan.htm

I haven't been there yet, but I've read on other boards that if your scan doesn't match what's on file you just show ID (your name is on your ticket) and all is A-OK.

-- Eric

 

[Sorcerer Figment]

Does this slow entry into the parks? Has anyone had any problems where their prints did not take?

I have used this system on two week long vacations. This was before they implemented the Magic Your Way program though. At that time only Annual Passholders (and maybe a few other categories?) used the biometric scanners, not ALL ticketholders. So I can't speak to it slowing general traffic, but I read they added new turnstiles at the MK (and perhaps other parks) to help compensate for any delay. I can say that even though I knew how to properly use the system, there were one or two days where I just couldn't get it to work. In that case the CM would enter a code to override it and just let me through. (Although they are supposed to check a photo ID, they never did.) It's not perfect, but if you follow the directions (and don't get flustered) it is easy and you will learn it in just a few tries.

 

[TimothyG]

I don't think it is overboard at all. I mean, what is honestly to stop people from passing tickets over the gate somehow (don't know how) and getting free entry into the parks. I know there is a handstamp system but all that stamp is is a stamp with special ink. There can't be THAT many different types and it would just take time for someone to figure out the code. I know that sounds a little extreme but some people would be that bored or something.

The biometric system is not really what people think it is. It's just security. I'm sure guest relations would be more than happy to transfer the ticket in the case of an extremity. They realize that the biometric system is also not perfect so they can easily override anything.

 

[TSR6]

It's pretty easy to pass tickets, luckily the turnstiles catch this though.

 

[seashoreCM]

Don't keep wiggling your fingers in the biometric reader, that slows it down.

Does this mean if my mother passes away and she has five days left on her ticket noone can use it??? I know your not suppose to use other peoples tickets, but when its your own family....???

I remember a brochure some years back (1995?) which described hopper passes "good for any three (or four) days out of the rest of your life".

While having your ticket expire the day you die may seem harsh, Disney has made exceptions on a case by case basis.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/dispass.htm

 

[Beerbelly6219]

What if you have no fingers? Will toes do?

 

[Lewisc]

The new MYM ticket pricing gives you extra days for almost no increase in cost. Those almost free days are for YOU to use, not for you to sell or share with friends and family.

I'd think Disney might offer a refund if the guest dies but I'd expect the refund would be the difference in price between a pass for the days used and the price of the pass that was purchased. In other words the value of the refund for a few days would be nominal.

One of the website suggests NOT buying the no-expire option. They said the vast majority of the guests lose their tickets and never wind up re-using them. This probably doesn't apply to the "disney nuts" on this board.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

What if you have no fingers? Will toes do?

1) Yes.
2) But it is a little uncomfortable to lift your leg high enough for the device.
3) Not to mention immodestly flashing the person next to you.


SERIOUS NOTE: For those with disabilities or hand problems, showing your ID, along with the signature on the reverse of the ticket, is acceptable. Plus, if your scan doesn't work, they ask for an ID.

 

[YepsenCP]

I had to use the biometrics when I was a CM, and through the entire 8 months I had maybe one time where it took a minute to get through.

If using a biometrics scanner to cut down on unpaid guests using a pass someone else paid for keeps costs at a reasoable level, they can add a retna-scanner for all I care!

 

[mermaidlady]

We just returned and the searching of the bags took more time then scanning fingers My 8 yr old didn't have to scan his fingers

 

[n2mm]

I haven't been there yet, but I've read on other boards that if your scan doesn't match what's on file you just show ID (your name is on your ticket) and all is A-OK.

-- Eric

That's all fine and dandy, but if the person is only 11, how will they show an ID when their scan does not work. Has Disney considered how to handle the Junior DISNEY ADULTs without IDs? I can see this might get frustrating for some of our baby Disney Adult ticket holders. I'll be curious to see how this might be handled.

 

[Miss Kelly]

I haven't been there yet, but I've read on other boards that if your scan doesn't match what's on file you just show ID (your name is on your ticket) and all is A-OK.

Your name is on your ticket? I have my passes already and my name is not on it? And I ordered tickets for all my family members and nowhere was I asked to provide the names of those using the tickets.

 

[RoyalCanadian]

Your name is on your ticket? I have my passes already and my name is not on it? And I ordered tickets for all my family members and nowhere was I asked to provide the names of those using the tickets.

Sign your tickets on the back in the space provided. That's why the signature line is there.

 

[DebbieB]

You are supposed to sign the back of the MYW tickets.

They do not make under 18 show ID's.

They did this because one 10 day base ticket is $221, a 5 day is $205. It would be too easy for 2 families going 5 days each (not at the same time) to share one 10 day for $221 rather than buying 2 five days totaling $410. They give you a big bargain for the days over 5 but only you can use it.

 

[jenr812]

You are supposed to sign the back of the MYW tickets.

They do not make under 18 show ID's.

They did this because one 10 day base ticket is $221, a 5 day is $205. It would be too easy for 2 families going 5 days each (not at the same time) to share one 10 day for $221 rather than buying 2 five days totaling $410. They give you a big bargain for the days over 5 but only you can use it.

That makes a lot of sense. The potential for abuse is definitely there and I can understand Disney wanting to ensure that it doesn't happen.

 

[Miss Kelly]

Sign your tickets on the back in the space provided. That's why the signature line is there.

Oh, I understand now! Thanks!!

 

[NewEnglandDisney]

The new MYM ticket pricing gives you extra days for almost no increase in cost. Those almost free days are for YOU to use, not for you to sell or share with friends and family.

I think it's key to remember this.

I mean, up until January, it basicly was at least $50/day to go to the parks. The only way you could get a 7-day pass is to buy a super-premium ticket that had plusses and such (and many of us just do the four parks and don't need that).

For instance, I'm taking a family trip in October. I have an AP, but the three people traveling with me don't. If we had bought them the only 7-day passes we could, they would have spent $350*3 = $1050 just for admission (and had extra plusses they don't need or want). Now, with MYW, we can spend about $700 and get 8 days instead of 7 for just a couple of dollars more (so on the last day we can still do the parks).

MYW is a much better deal on admission for longer stays than before, i.e. those people that stay a week. The other side to that is, yes, they are actually enforcing the policy they have ALWAYS had - tickets are non-transferable. With only a dollar or three between days on tickets at a certain level, it is totally understandable that they are now enforcing this or everyone would be taking advantage of the system.

As to the concern about security/privacy, Disney has way, way more information about you that is so much more valuable and risky (from your credit card number down to how many calls you have ever made from your phone to CRO - yes they do know!) than the distance between the bones of two of my fingers. I am actually a strong privacy advocate, but measurements of my fingers really doesn't bother me.

N.E.D.