Best & Worst / ineffective "worst" voting

Discussion in 'The DIS Unplugged Podcast' started by smw, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. smw

    smw Mouseketeer

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2011
    Messages:
    123
    I really enjoy these shows but does it bother anyone else that the voting method for the "worst" categories makes no sense? You don't get an accurate read if you ask people to vote for their favorite something and then call the 3 somethings with the least votes the "worst." This is like ranking the top 20 restaurants in NYC and then saying #18, 19, and 20 are the 3 worst.

    Really need to ask what people think the best are and then ask an altogether separate question for the worst.
     
  2. StraightToDumbo

    StraightToDumbo Monorails kill dreams.

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    439
    Ha! Thought the same. A restaurant that isn't voted on doesn't make it the worst...it could just be forgotten or rarely frequented.
     
    MaryKatesMom and smw like this.
  3. Avatar

    Advertisement


    to hide this advert.
  4. ChasingAriel

    ChasingAriel Earning My Ears

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    I agree with this as well. Love the show so definitely keep them coming but I would really like to see a separate poll for the worst category to eliminate "forgotten places" from being the worst. Hey, in fact that might be a really cool category in and of itself you guys could do, like a top 5 most forgotten of any given category as decided by the hosts instead of us guys. Thanks!
     
  5. Pawpsicle

    Pawpsicle Mouseketeer

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2016
    Messages:
    169
    The "numbers" are always so confusing when they do polls.
     
  6. Sean91

    Sean91 Kevin's never said a damn thing about me.

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2015
    Messages:
    541
    I totally agree with this, I was thinking how I could word it to post in the comments of the video yesterday but had to run out. Really to get proper results you would need to run two seperate polls
     
    auntfrannie likes this.
  7. pjweaver

    pjweaver just happy to be here

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    1,656
    I have to agree; My worst is far different than my least best. In these cases they are lists of best of and least best of, but worst sounds better.

    If I voted for worst QS there would be names that wouldn't appear on anyones best of. Plus people would hang me in effigy for my views of Pinocchio's Village Haus.
     
    auntfrannie likes this.
  8. StraightToDumbo

    StraightToDumbo Monorails kill dreams.

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    439
    I feel the same way about Casey's. BLECK!
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2017
  9. TheMaxRebo

    TheMaxRebo DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2008
    Messages:
    11,901
    I also totally agree - and maybe do it that you can pick up to 5 of your favorite and then 5 worst/least favorite or something.

    Thinking of the hotel for couples - not voting for a place as a top choice for couples to stay at is very different than voting for something you think is specifically not good for couples
     
  10. StraightToDumbo

    StraightToDumbo Monorails kill dreams.

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    439
    Exactly! So in effect, by choosing 5 places I think are great for couples, I'm at the same time saying that ALL the other properties are the worst for couples when in reality one of the places I didn't choose is actually my number 6.
     
  11. DLgal

    DLgal DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2013
    Messages:
    2,917
    Is it really that hard to just do two polls?

    Best....

    Worst...

    Because seriously, this method is indeed flawed. It would never stand up in a scientific study of anything.
     
  12. TheMaxRebo

    TheMaxRebo DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2008
    Messages:
    11,901
    yeah, definitely. But also I think there is a difference between thinking something is "no so great that I need to highlight it as being a great option - but isn't necessarily bad" vs "this place is not good for couples and they should avoid it!" ... I guess, I mean there is a difference between "neutral" and "negative"
     
  13. StraightToDumbo

    StraightToDumbo Monorails kill dreams.

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    439
    I wonder if they can make it a ranking poll 1 through N. I think that would solve this conundrum sufficiently.
     
  14. pjweaver

    pjweaver just happy to be here

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    1,656
    Don't go bringing N into this. N did nothing wrong.

    Can you imagine the time it would take to compile the data issued for all the QS? You would need some sort of computing machine to average then quantify results. Even worse is I would have to sit there debating if Pizza Planet (I don't care what Disney says, that is the name of the best pizza MGM) is #72 or more like #79.
     
  15. StraightToDumbo

    StraightToDumbo Monorails kill dreams.

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    439
    Ha! So true, so true. Pizza Planet is way underrated BTW.
     
  16. disneyland_is_magic

    disneyland_is_magic Mouseketeer

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2016
    Messages:
    379
    Agreed. I had never heard of the worse, including the seasonal locations seemed "unfair."
    But this is all in silly fun so I guess we don't need to be scientific or fair I suppose.
    I am dying laughing thinking about Pete who despite 37 disclaimers is reading two threads about the flaws of B&W :badpc: Hahaha.
     
  17. sharadoc

    sharadoc Visit WDW since '86, driving since '94.

    Joined:
    May 6, 2008
    Messages:
    7,689
    Vote for one Best and one Worst.
     
  18. StraightToDumbo

    StraightToDumbo Monorails kill dreams.

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    439
    But he says "...best and worse as voted on by you, the fans." Not true. I only voted on THE BEST!
     
    disneyland_is_magic likes this.
  19. disneyland_is_magic

    disneyland_is_magic Mouseketeer

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2016
    Messages:
    379
    Haha I was referring to when they do their personal list and say,"this is only our opinions, no one is wrong, blah, blah." He is so diplomatic about it.
    Then Craig goes rogue and says the audience can be dumb and wrong in the last one. Hahaha.

    All in fun.
     
    SorcererHeidi likes this.
  20. TheMaxRebo

    TheMaxRebo DIS Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2008
    Messages:
    11,901
    I think this came up again with the last one (the EPCOT quick service) as with Starbucks being selected as the "worst" quick service - feels to me like one where I wouldn't even think of it as a quick service location so I wouldn't vote for it as the best but I wouldn't vote for it as the worst either - it's just there for coffee and fancy coffee drinks

    I do think they either need to do two votes or reword it as "these are the three top vote getters and the 3 lowest vote getters - meaning the fewest people think they specifically are the best" - and get away from calling them "the worst"

    That said, i know it is all in fun and I won't get too worked up about it or anything

    One side note - I think it would be cool if they released the entire voting (maybe just in the show notes or something) as it would be interesting to see where some other locations landed on the list
     
    disneyland_is_magic likes this.
  21. pjweaver

    pjweaver just happy to be here

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    1,656
    The Epcot one also reignited my question for what counts as quick service. Le Patiserie (however that is spelled) has always been a snack stop to me. In fact it was listed as the best use of a snack credit on the DDP.

    As for imagining Pete reading this, not happening. The highest level this would rate is @Teleclashter noticing it because some jerk tagged him.
    #ShouldveTaggedRyno
     

Share This Page