Bama Ed Is At The Fort - May 2026

Thanks ya'll.

We have an early start tomorrow and i do want to post about today and then offer my thoughts on big time 5'er trailer livin'. So i think this TR will run thru Sat and Sun nights.

Ps - early run to take the kids to MCO for the flight home in the morn, back to FW to load me and Dw's stuff, then drive home. At least we get an hour back as return to Central time.
 
Thanks ya'll.

We have an early start tomorrow and i do want to post about today and then offer my thoughts on big time 5'er trailer livin'. So i think this TR will run thru Sat and Sun nights.

Ps - early run to take the kids to MCO for the flight home in the morn, back to FW to load me and Dw's stuff, then drive home. At least we get an hour back as return to Central time.
Safe travels Ed! We'll "hold the Fort down" for ya!
 

Well DW and I are home today after a 10-hr drive home from the Fort. We played dodgeball with a big long line of rain that had several angry colors on the weather radar. It was impossible to avoid ALL the rain but we altered our course mid-way to avoid the angry radar colors (yellow, orange, red). Green was tolerable. And 10 hours is average for not towing.

The morning started REALLY EARLY :crazy: at 5am loading my truck with the kids stuff that was going home on their flight. I "volunteered" to carry the stuff they had needed in Florida but didn't need to take on the flight (it was a whole lot of stuff). Guess I can deliver it to them this week when I see DGD. Got them to MCO a little after 630am, got them unloaded, said goodbyes, and returned to the Fort - it was about an hour round trip including unloading time.

DW and I loaded up and left at 8am. We would have left sooner but DW felt bad about leaving a broom-clean camper per their instructions and went the extra mile(s) to leave a sparkling camper for them to pick up.

And we would have set out sooner but we still did some running around on Friday including the entire Fort area, the Golf Pro Shop over near Shades of Green that serves the Palm, Magnolica and with Par 3 course, and yet again one last trip to Disney Springs. Let's cover the Fort stuff from Friday.

Since we were "this close" to the new TCD Horse Barn near the Settlement from our 400 loop, I suggested we go over and let DGD see the horses which we did.

















Let's hop over to the Golf Pro Shop next.

Bama Ed

PS - we all pseudo-agreed to make a multi-generational trip together again when DGD was 3 years old and could do the pony ride with one of her parents.
 
DSiL wanted to buy a Golfing Mickey clothing item of some sort and thought the best place would be a WDW pro shop (he was right). So he and I rode over to the Pro Shop serving the courses near Shades of Green.





I got myself a ball cap.



Let's go over to Disney Springs next.

Bama Ed
 
DD wanted to browse some of the Disney Springs shops that she didn't have time for on her Sunday visit and also to have the silhouette artist make a cutting of DGD's profile.

This service is offered in the Crystal Arts store just past World of Disney and the Ghirardelli Chocolate stores on the right side as you walk in from the Lime Parking Deck. In the CA store they have a crystal MK castle on display with a list price of $285k. I hope the rotating display stand is included in that price.



We went to the Pooh/Tigger/Piglet figures for some generational pictures. These are across from the Christmas Shoppe at Disney Springs.



We took a pic of our three kids sitting between the characters in the mid-2000s and again in 2022 (when they were all grown up). This week DD, DSiL, and DGD sat there to start the photo series for THEIR family and we also got one with me, DW, and DGD. It was truly a special moment. Those characters have been there for about 20 years as far as I know and I hope they remain at least 20 more.

Pretty flowers over at Disney Springs too.







And two pics of the Mickey topiary at DS.





Have you ever not noticed stuff and then all of a sudden you see it EVERYWHERE?

That's in the next post.

Bama Ed
 
You might only imagine the grief I caught from DW and DD after the end of our Epcot visit when I got the Orange Bird Sipper souvenir. Actually, I was glad to have found it and gotten one.

But after that chance encounter on Thursday, I saw the Orange Bird represented ALL OVER Disney Springs (well, mostly in the Co-op Store).











They also had his/her Orange Bird shirts but I could not get myself to go that far.



But we had been in the Co-op on Sunday looking at this stuff and I had not noticed it before.

Then it was back to the Fort about 430pm for a quick bike trip around for more pics before we started packing up on Friday night.

Bama Ed
 
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Remember when the Fort created the Premium Meadows sites with the square picnic table? It was the hot status symbol. The square tables were pulled a few years ago but there is still one in the dog park.





Some guy was photobombing the picture above ... ;) Notice he has 3 legs? :scared1:











Let's pedal on.
 
The Meadow Tennis courts are being redesigned (it appears) into two pickleball courts and one regulation tennis court. The contractors are building the post holes for the pickleball court nets (two on the ends and a connector in the middle of the net, it appears).



and one full size court behind them on the 1500 loop side.



For the record, the picnic pavilion between the racket courts and the Meadow Pool:



has the following sign in 4 different places on the pavilion:



From the 4-way intersection with 2200/1100/1300/1700 loops nearby, the sidewalk up to the Outpost follows the old Fort Wilderness Railroad track bed and the black/white ballast rock is prevalent on either side of the pavement lined by the lantern lights.





I rode up by the check-in lanes (after 5pm by now on a Friday afternoon) and all the traffic backed up in Lane 4 but Lane 2 had the green light with no takers.



Well, except me - I chose Lane 2.



After the check-in lanes, on the other side is the golf cart pick-up and return areas. The yellow box here for the key drop if you return a cart when a CM is not around.



Almost done for Friday (in the next post).

Bama Ed
 
Heading pack towards my home base in loop 400.





The power boxes in the Settlement Bus loop where the FWRR used to round out and stop across Fort Wilderness Trail in front of loop 400.



I had noticed this week when riding my bike from Meadow TP toward the Outpost that the stretch of road between loops 1100/1200/1300 is not really well marked to indicate pedestrians may be crossing. I mean, there are only FOUR yellow signs in a row and it's obvious to me that we need more.



Four is not enough. As DW would say, we need more. to be safer. Don't you want folks to be safe, Ed?

Back home in 400 loop, we packed up as did the birthday group across the road with the chalk art. I posted the initial art but the family left chalk on the pavement during the days when they were away to encourage people to wish Brock a happy birthday. And the camping community stepped up to the challenge.

BEFORE:



AFTER:



I signed for us in the upper left corner as #421.



BTW, they left this morning to go home too and we chatted - Brock had his 28th birthday (just a youngster!).

I also said farewell to my mates. They live at the Fort full-time (lucky dogs) and I told them we would see them again in January 2027.





Tomorrow will be a post about our rental trailer and experience.

Bama Ed
 
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So this is the part where I offer my opinion on the vendor relationship.

I will begin by saying how we CHOSE this vendor/camper:

Initially DW and I planned this trip in late spring 2026 when booking opened which came up in conversations with our kids.

DD, who was in the Disney College Program (DCP) several years ago opined that they (she, Dear Child, and DH) wanted to go. So I did the research of the approved vendors and was looking for a trailer that was "like" a 2 bedroom arrangement. Two "REAL" bedrooms (not flex rooms, not bunkhouses) [look it up if you don't know], separate bathrooms (DW has this as a MUST while I hike over to the Comfort Stations), and a common living area (living room type, dinette type, kitchen type, yada yada). One campsite, one trailer, two family units (who agreed to split the cost).

I perused the Disney approved vendors. Lots of flex rooms, lots of bunkhouses, not many accommodations for 2 distinct family groups. But https://www.korvrental.com/ (Kissimmee Orlando rental dot com) had the Avalanche 44' 5er available (booked something like 28 of the 30 days in April and nearly as many in May - much in demand).

So we locked it in for our dates.

You can put a 5er anywhere (especially if a vendor has to back it in/out). Full site, Preferred, Premium, or Premium Meadow. But I chose a Premium given the length of the presumed trailer (44' for us). We booked the site first (when 2026 bookings opened) and then booked the trailer . Obviously we could have saved a few silver dollars with a Premium or Preferred or Full but decided to go with a bigger concrete pad (which was a good choice).

I'm a numbers guy. You want numbers, I got numbers (rounded to the nearest 100).

A simple Premium campsite (like in loop 400 as we were) was roughly $1,300 tax included for our dates (1 week/7 nights in early May).

The camper, however, was a maze of extras.

The simple quoted nightly/weekly rate was nearly $1,900.

A delivery charge was an additional ~9.5% of the weekly rate.

A full prep charge was an additional ~8.0% of the weekly rate.

The sales tax charge was an additional ~7.5% of the weekly rate.

The average nightly trailer all-in rate (7 nights) was $335. (all fees including tax)

The average nightly Premium site all-in rate (7 nights) was $190. (all fees including tax)

335 + 190 = 525 per night all in; but we were two families so:

525 / 2 = 268 per night for a yuge 5er camper and Premium site on our dates for each family. Bedrooms, kitchen/fridge, location, community. BOOM!

We loved being in 400 loop (Premium). Close to the Fort boat docks, close to the Trails End refillable mug stations (DD and DSiL), walkable to the Settlement Bus Depot to go anywhere, old home decade for DW and me, so I will say it worked.

But .....

Are all 5ers built of balsa wood and bubble gum?

Are all 5ers with 2 AC units subject to heat drain when day temps hit 94F with no shade and even with AC running all day it takes till like 10pm to get temps in the unshaded part of the camper to livable levels? The gooseneck BR/Bath was in the sun and was hot/warm until 8pm or so our last day. Our back bedroom/bathroom with 2 of 8 AC vents didn't cool off until late (although the loft over our heads (where no one was sleeping) had 4 vents blowing and 2 vents blowing into the living/dining/kitchen central space). Oh by morning we all felt fine - high temps only came on Friday morn and we left Sat morn.

In our case, I have to add some caveats.

You don't have to rent a YUGE 5er for 2 family units. Rent a smaller camper if you can if 1 family unit.

You don't have to book a Premium campsite. Book a less expensive campsite if you can.

Not all vendors have fees added (supposedly) onto the daily/weekly rate. Some of the other official vendors claim to add only sales tax but I'd like to hear from real customers that this was true.

My thought for renting a camper on a campsite was to compare that cost to buying a Fort Wilderness Cabin DVC contract as a strategy after getting too old for pushing a pop-up Aliner around. The alternative was the FWC which was almost the same cost for the week ($200+) per night for maintenance fees and no straight line depreciation costs for the loss of one year's ownership points. I guess DW and I will keep the Alinler for a decade or two.

Other vendors have other pricing mechanisms and KORV worked for us just fine this past week for the kind of trailer we wanted. But book only the trailer amenities you need; book only the campsite level you need; be aware of cancellation and reservation modification policies.

This was an educational experience for me and we enjoyed it.

Bama Ed

PS - the Fort booking window typically has opened in April for the following year (Jan-Oct arrivals). The camper we booked was one we wanted for late April BUT IT WAS ALREADY BOOKED when the Disney booking window opened for 2026. Lesson is you can book a camper rental (and modify/cancel/yada) before the booking window may open. Lesson is - you don't HAVE to booka site before the camper; you can book a camper that you REALLY love if need be and THEN get a campsite and then tweak each accordingly as needed.

PPS - Monday morning edit to add that KORV was responsive to emails and calls. My one complaint (if it is one) is that their procedures say for me to call them when I arrive at the Fort so they can prioritize that guest's camper since they are there waiting. I called 8am after checking in "hey I'm here". Disney sent the text to me at 1230pm "your campsite is ready" which I assume they also told KORV. It was nearly 5pm when I got the call from KORV that my camper was all set up (I was driving back from MCO having picked up the kids in the rain). I didn't feel like a priority but who knows how many campers they had to handle on a Saturday in-and-out. I bet the weekends are busier than mid-week days.
 
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Oh and here is the background on Orange Bird ....

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I'm a numbers guy. You want numbers, I got numbers (rounded to the nearest 100).

335 + 190 = 525 per night all in
Thanks for the summary and totals. I had thought renting an RV was "similar" in price to a cabin (or other Moderate resort). The add on charges would have made me crazy, but if they were well advertised, it is what it is.
But .....

Are all 5ers built of balsa wood and bubble gum?
Not all, but most. The Avalanche is a decent mid-level 5er. You know I've had 4 trailers (2 TT, 2 5ers) prior to my MH. All had similar construction despite the marketing on why "theirs" was better. Balsa is lighter than a better wood. Same for the "paneling" used in most. In the entry and mid level towable market, lighter is better (although my last 5er was still over 14,000 lbs)
Are all 5ers with 2 AC units subject to heat drain when day temps hit 94F with no shade and even with AC running all day it takes till like 10pm to get temps in the unshaded part of the camper to livable levels?
Short answer is "Yes". Limited insulation (or poor installation of insulation if they claim a good R factor) and single pane windows make it impossible for 2 A/C units to adequately cool a 44X8ft box in the sun in 90+ temps. My last 5er was 42 ft and had two 15k A/Cs. It did OK, but not great in Midwest 95 degrees and 90% humidity. Higher end units and nicer diesel pusher motorhomes often have dual pane windows and much better insulation and sealing. That said, my motorhome has dual pane windows, Day/Night shades and three 15k A/C units (2 are standard, the 3rd is/was an option that most in the Midwest and South get). They do an amazing job.

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I've been home about 3 days now and I am driving around town with my Fort Wilderness parking pass STILL on my dashboard. Probably will pull it off this coming weekend but I continue to feel a glow from the Fort and the memories that we made for our multi-generational family during this stay.

Does anyone else do that? Or is it just me? :drive::mickeyjum
 
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I've been home about 3 days now and I am still driving around town with my Fort Wilderness parking pass STILL on my dashboard. Probably will pull it off this coming weekend but I continue to feel a glow from the Fort and the memories that we made for our multi-generational family during this stay.

Does anyone else do that? Or is it just me? :drive::mickeyjum
I don’t keep them on the dash, but I have a healthy collection in my drivers side door pocket . . .
 
Look what DD brought home for DGD.

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Now I have something to read to her that we can both enjoy.

Bama Ed
I love those Little Golden Books! I started a collection of Disney related Golden Books for a baby shower gift (plus a few other things) for one of my best friends a few years ago when she was pregnant. Every year for her daughter's birthday or Christmas, I buy 3-5 more, depending on what I can find. They are a Disney family, she loves them and looks forward to new books! She probably has over 25 by now. I will have to find this one, it's getting harder to find new ones each year! And I did buy "There's a Monster at the End of This Story" featuring Grover from Sesame Street. Was a favorite of mine when I was little, I have fond memories of my nana reading it to me!
 

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