Aulani Standard View Grand Villa

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Anyone ever had any success booking the standard view grand villa? I think there are two villas in this category but if you try to book it, there is never any availability only waitlist. I’ve been trying to book it for two years. Nothing, Nada!

Does Something Smell Fishy Here??!! I’m headed out to Aulani in 2 weeks. I will be asking questions.
 
We've been in a GV at Aulani several times. Would never consider the standard view of this category. All you would see from your balcony is the tree leaves.
 
One thing to remember that we found out when we bought at Aulani ... Unlike most DVC properties, Aulani has a huge "guaranteed weeks" business (ie the tradition non-points timeshare business) from the asian market. You might be running into an issue where the weeks you can travel are guaranteed and with only two available ...
 

I own at Aulani. For my own curiosity, I frequently check the availability at 11 months. For at least the last 3 years, I have never seen the standard view grand villa available. Not for even one single... solitary... day. There definitely seems to be something up. The impact from guaranteed weeks is the best theory I have heard so far, but surely that can't account for every single week, can it? I didn't think the guaranteed weeks were that popular.
 
Honestly, with 2 units nothing is up.

Say I am looking 11 months out for May 6, 2023. Someone who booked the SV GV for a week starting May 1, 2023 has one of them. Someone who booked it for a week starting June 29 has the other.

It is very possible for there simply not to be aa check-out on any given day because someone booked them for multiple nights.
 
Honestly, with 2 units nothing is up.

Say I am looking 11 months out for May 6, 2023. Someone who booked the SV GV for a week starting May 1, 2023 has one of them. Someone who booked it for a week starting June 29 has the other.

It is very possible for there simply not to be aa check-out on any given day because someone booked them for multiple nights.
Yeah, I do understand well how the system works. But allow me to give an example... I would argue that the club level villas at Animal Kingdom-Jambo are possibly the most sought-after villas in the entire DVC system. There are only five studios and five 1BRs, and those go almost completely exactly at 11 months; however, you can always see some trailing availability at the end of the 11-month mark. Plus, you can look at the calendar throughout the year see scattered availability of a day or two here and there (from canceled trips, changed plans, etc). And as another example, there are only two grand villas at the Grand Californian (two grand villas total of any view type), and you can see at least some availability in the 7-11 month booking period.

At Aulani, you will see zero dates available for the standard view GV. Surely someone would cancel, switch dates, shorten a trip... Something. But not a single date appears, ever. You should at least be able to see a day or two at the end of the 11 months plus 7, but nada.

As I said, the impact from guaranteed weeks is the best theory I have heard, but even still...
 
Yeah, I do understand well how the system works. But allow me to give an example... I would argue that the club level villas at Animal Kingdom-Jambo are possibly the most sought-after villas in the entire DVC system. There are only five studios and five 1BRs, and those go almost completely exactly at 11 months; however, you can always see some trailing availability at the end of the 11-month mark. Plus, you can look at the calendar throughout the year see scattered availability of a day or two here and there (from canceled trips, changed plans, etc). And as another example, there are only two grand villas at the Grand Californian (two grand villas total of any view type), and you can see at least some availability in the 7-11 month booking period.

At Aulani, you will see zero dates available for the standard view GV. Surely someone would cancel, switch dates, shorten a trip... Something. But not a single date appears, ever. You should at least be able to see a day or two at the end of the 11 months plus 7, but nada.

As I said, the impact from guaranteed weeks is the best theory I have heard, but even still...
Not sure of Aulani,,but at Poly and the GF there could only be a max of 35% of the weeks per room as a GW.
 
Not sure of Aulani,,but at Poly and the GF there could only be a max of 35% of the weeks per room as a GW.
Oh, thank you that is a good point. So as I suspected, the guaranteed weeks are not the complete answer to the mystery...

To clarify my earlier point, when I said that there "definitely seems to be something up," I wasn't implying that anything wrong/nefarious was going on. I just meant that the explanation "oh, those villas are scarce an in high demand" could not possibly be the full answer. Very clearly, there is another reason why there is never any availability in those villas, even for one random day here or there, or at the extreme tail end of the 11-month window where by all rights we should see some blue dates.

Here is another theory... We know that Disney continues to retain ownership of a good number of points at Aulani, and will continue to do so even after they finally sell out (whenever that day comes). Perhaps Disney holds back these standard view GVs, either to sell for cash reservations, or maybe when they need to satisfy a disgruntled guest? Maybe they use these for promotions, meetings, etc.? Just a wild guess on my part. In any case, I repeat that something definitely seems to be up here. :-)
 
Not sure of Aulani,,but at Poly and the GF there could only be a max of 35% of the weeks per room as a GW.
I believe the SV GV was allowed to sell 1 GW per week, total of 52 possible. Likely far fewer sold - I'd bet on 2 having been sold, honestly, and I bet we all know which 2 I mean.
 
The rooms more than likely are booked up via cash reservations. You're able to book further out than the 11 months with cash reservations. I just checked a August 7th 2023 - August 9th 2023 and it's available for a cool $2,900 a night.
 
Just a thought due to disco340 pointing it out,,,at the std GV even declared yet? I am not sure if the whole resort is declared?
 
I own at Aulani. For my own curiosity, I frequently check the availability at 11 months. For at least the last 3 years, I have never seen the standard view grand villa available. Not for even one single... solitary... day. There definitely seems to be something up. The impact from guaranteed weeks is the best theory I have heard so far, but surely that can't account for every single week, can it? I didn't think the guaranteed weeks were that popular.
You are correct. I have done the same stalking like you, and it is nothing like even AKV value/club, BWV standard, etc. There is not even a date at 11 months + 7 days available. I wondered if last time we were there they were using the SV GV's for CM/character things. It is sketchy. DVC may be using their own points to block it off entirely. (I hope, as if they weren't using their own points, it would be super sketchy and unfair for Aulani owners such as us who may want to book it.)
 
The rooms more than likely are booked up via cash reservations. You're able to book further out than the 11 months with cash reservations. I just checked a August 7th 2023 - August 9th 2023 and it's available for a cool $2,900 a night.
My bet is that this is the answer. It does seem a bit disingenuous to me, to include these villas on the point charts, but then never make them available for booking... Although there is likely a legal requirement to have them there, as they are actually still a part of the condominium association. And they may decide to allow these to be open for booking one day.
 
Just a thought due to disco340 pointing it out,,,at the std GV even declared yet? I am not sure if the whole resort is declared?
I doubt that the entire resort has been declared yet (but not sure). In any case, it wouldn't really matter. There is a "reciprocal use" agreement in place, whereby any of the DVC villas can be used to fill a reservation, regardless of whether or not the physical unit has actually been declared to the association.
 
I doubt that the entire resort has been declared yet (but not sure). In any case, it wouldn't really matter. There is a "reciprocal use" agreement in place, whereby any of the DVC villas can be used to fill a reservation, regardless of whether or not the physical unit has actually been declared to the association.
The whole resort is absolutely not declared. This is a good analysis:

https://www.dvcnews.com/resorts/aul.../5170-aulani-sales-progress-late-2021-edition

We do not know what units are declared. It is possible only 1 SV GV is declared. Aulani is on track to take nearly 20 years to sell out.
 
They are not available for booking. I heard that one of them is being used as a DVC sales office and the other one hasn't been declared yet.
I thought the DVC sales office was on floor 3 just off the lobby in the Waianae tower building.
 
They are not available for booking. I heard that one of them is being used as a DVC sales office and the other one hasn't been declared yet.
As I said in my earlier post - whether or not a specific unit has been declared to the the association makes no difference on whether or not a specific unit can be used to fill a DVC reservation. All of the units in the DVC system are subject to a reciprocal use agreement, meaning any unit can be reserved by any member (subject to home resort booking priority, etc.).

The main significance of the declaration to the association has to do with the ability of DVD to sell points... Until DVD declares a specific unit, they are legally unable to sell the points associated with that unit. Then once the unit is declared, the inventory available for booking by members increases by the same number of points associated with the newly declared unit (i.e., the members are able to book an increased number of units on any given day).
 












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