At what age is it no longer appropriate for kids to be pantless when company is over?

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

You're right that it may not be entirely illegal in every area...

Just to be clear this was the post I quoted of yours:

Why is it acceptable for a kid not to, but illegal for an adult to be outside in their underwear?

(I underlined the main point of what my intial comment to you was).

So my comment was addressing that.

Your other part of your response to me doesn't have much to do with what I quoted you about which was the legality of being out in public as an adult with your underwear. I already reenforced that it is socially unacceptable for an adult and that is as a general way.

 

[DeniseJH]

^^^ OMG, ridiculous. ^^^ What a strange line of conversation. Like I said, flailing.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

^^^ OMG, ridiculous. ^^^ What a strange line of conversation. Like I said, flailing.

Mkk *shrugs*

*FYI you're more than welcome to quote me rather than use an arrow up--it helps the line of conversation when you're speaking directly to someone

 

[disykat]

Glad it all worked out. I just get the vibe that you think this little boy is out of control. And maybe he is. Or maybe he's just an active little 5 year old. For the record, I never would have allowed my kids to show up at a family function, even one at my own home, without pants.

But it also seems to me like you find this boy to be a bit out of control and you're going to step in and take a bit of control. It's probably how I was raised, but that would not fly in my family. I see you have a daughter. I have to tell you after having 2 boys and a girl, that my boys at age 5 were a lot more energetic and physical in their play than my daughter or any of her friends were. I hope you don't let your experience parenting a girl alter how you're interacting with an energetic little boy.

Or maybe he's a hellion on his way to a life of crime if someone doesn't step in. I'm just saying that I hope you're considering all angles. Your judgment of him is pretty clear every time you carefully point out that you're the only one who will watch him.

I didn't get an anti-boy sentiment from OP and I'm a mom of boys. OP probably feels the child isn't given enough boundaries and it shows in his behavior - and she may have a point as evidenced by the parent being fine with no pants at a family dinner. If I remember right the grandparents were willing to watch the boy or the girl, but not both together. I doubt there's a one of us out there that hasn't judged the parenting of someone else -both positive and negative- especially when we're in a situation where we have to deal with the children.

 

[LongLiveRafiki]

Just to be clear this was the post I quoted of yours:
(I underlined the main point of what my intial comment to you was).

So my comment was addressing that.

Your other part of your response to me doesn't have much to do with what I quoted you about which was the legality of being out in public as an adult with your underwear. I already reenforced that it is socially unacceptable for an adult and that is as a general way.

Perhaps I should clarify. In some areas, it may not be illegal to be in public in your underwear. In other areas, it definitely is. I wasn't trying to indicate that this was some universal law. I was making a generalized comment about the drastic difference in how this situation is viewed between a child and an adult... As in, some areas would go as far as to consider it a crime for an adult to be in public in just their underwear, but yet for a child, it's not only not a law probably anywhere, but socially acceptable as well? If it was an adult, he'd be expected to wear pants and any other adult would likely tell him to put some on if they were outside, but with a child, it's wrong for an adult in the family to tell them to put on pants?

 

[DeniseJH]

Mkk *shrugs*

*FYI you're more than welcome to quote me rather than use an arrow up--it helps the line of conversation when you're speaking directly to someone

It didn't seem necessary.

 

[BLAZEY]

Glad it all worked out. I just get the vibe that you think this little boy is out of control. And maybe he is. Or maybe he's just an active little 5 year old. For the record, I never would have allowed my kids to show up at a family function, even one at my own home, without pants.

But it also seems to me like you find this boy to be a bit out of control and you're going to step in and take a bit of control. It's probably how I was raised, but that would not fly in my family. I see you have a daughter. I have to tell you after having 2 boys and a girl, that my boys at age 5 were a lot more energetic and physical in their play than my daughter or any of her friends were. I hope you don't let your experience parenting a girl alter how you're interacting with an energetic little boy.

Or maybe he's a hellion on his way to a life of crime if someone doesn't step in. I'm just saying that I hope you're considering all angles. Your judgment of him is pretty clear every time you carefully point out that you're the only one who will watch him.

Yes I do think he's out of control, so do the grandparents who will limit their time watching him (but are fine with the younger sister). It's the back talk and disrespect to all forms of authority (even his own parents, grandparent and teachers at preschool) and my sister would just rather let him have his way than fight him on it. Yes, he's full of beans, funny and smart as a whip, but given the issues at preschool and him now starting kindergarten in 3 weeks I'm concerned he's going have bigger issues as this bad behaviour is allow or encouraged at home. DSis has had him tested for spectum disorders, thankfully that came back in the normal range (not that its bad, just a relief).

 

[mom2rtk]

I didn't get an anti-boy sentiment from OP and I'm a mom of boys. OP probably feels the child isn't given enough boundaries and it shows in his behavior - and she may have a point as evidenced by the parent being fine with no pants at a family dinner. If I remember right the grandparents were willing to watch the boy or the girl, but not both together. I doubt there's a one of us out there that hasn't judged the parenting of someone else -both positive and negative- especially when we're in a situation where we have to deal with the children.

Yes I do think he's out of control, so do the grandparents who will limit their time watching him (but are fine with the younger sister). It's the back talk and disrespect to all forms of authority (even his own parents, grandparent and teachers at preschool) and my sister would just rather let him have his way than fight him on it. Yes, he's full of beans, funny and smart as a whip, but given the issues at preschool and him now starting kindergarten in 3 weeks I'm concerned he's going have bigger issues as this bad behaviour is allow or encouraged at home. DSis has had him tested for spectum disorders, thankfully that came back in the normal range (not that its bad, just a relief).

I'm just skeptical when the more serious behavior issues aren't included in the original post.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Perhaps I should clarify. In some areas, it may not be illegal to be in public in your underwear. In other areas, it definitely is. I wasn't trying to indicate that this was some universal law. I was making a generalized comment about the drastic difference in how this situation is viewed between a child and an adult... As in, some areas would go as far as to consider it a crime for an adult to be in public in just their underwear, but yet for a child, it's not only not a law probably anywhere, but socially acceptable as well? If it was an adult, he'd be expected to wear pants and any other adult would likely tell him to put some on if they were outside, but with a child, it's wrong for an adult in the family to tell them to put on pants?

Yeah when I responded it was because the way you phrased it was more like an statement of fact that it's illegal for adults so that's how I approached it I actually think surprisingly there are more places than one thinks where the mere presence of being in underwear is not an issue but of course that is a tangent maybe worthy of its own thread lol.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It didn't seem necessary.

Respectfully I was carrying on a conversation with another poster. Sorry you didn't think it was necessary. The other poster brought up the topic, I responded, they responded, and I responded back clarifying what my initial comment to them was about and now again they responded and I responded back--or in other words a discussion occurred...on a discussion board .

 

[DeniseJH]

Respectfully I was carrying on a conversation with another poster. Sorry you didn't think it was necessary. The other poster brought up the topic, I responded, they responded, and I responded back clarifying what my initial comment to them was about and now again they responded and I responded back--or in other words a discussion occurred...on a discussion board .

You responded, they responded, you responded, they responded...as you said - it's a discussion board...I responded....otherwise you could have your conversation in private.

 

[DeniseJH]

Blazey - was your main worry that your nephew was going to be arrested for not wearing pants? Hahahahahahaha!!!! So ridiculous!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

You responded, they responded, you responded, they responded...as you said - it's a discussion board, I responded....otherwise you could have your conversation in private.

I remember you now from another thread. You have at it with the now one-sided conversation and have a lovely rest of your night

 

[DeniseJH]

I remember you now from another thread. You have at it with the now one-sided conversation and have a lovely rest of your night

Rising to what bait? (As you referred to in a private convo to me.) It was a rational response to your dis at me.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Rising to what bait? (As you referred to in a private convo to me.) It was a rational response to your dis at me.

Man oh man you can't even take your own advice to me (you know the "otherwise you could have your conversation in private.") I took it to a PM. You take it back to this thread. Make up your dang mind. Nevermind I don't really care. *Shrug have fun with yourself.

 

[DeniseJH]

Apparently I've totally misread what a discussion board is about. Was I wrong to weigh in on whether or not it was pertinent to discuss the rights and wrongs of what adults do or don't wear in public when the discussion is about a child? I thought it ridiculous, and said so. Apparently I should have taken it to a PM!?! So confusing!

And the only reason I said "...otherwise you could have your conversation in private" was when you implied that I shouldn't have responded as you were "carrying on a conversation with another poster". I wasn't advising you anything.

 

[disykat]

I'm just skeptical when the more serious behavior issues aren't included in the original post.

I can't stand that argument. If people won't believe anything OP says that isn't in the original post, why should OP even participate further in the conversation? OP's always add more details as the conversation continues. It's the nature of discussion. Yet, for some reason, there are always people that assume anything not said in the original post is lies. We don't know the OP, we only have what she/he says to go on. I don't get why people seem to believe adding detail or answering questions is backpedaling. Why assume she/he is telling truth in their OP and then madly lying the rest of the time?

 

[MrsCobraBubbles]

don't tell anyone!! Dang now my secret's out too . I promise I only do that when it's either only myself or just my husband and myself--my cat gets no say so

Lol, as soon as my kids were in bed, the pants and bra came off! They were sitting at my feet when I typed that previous reply A nice perk of being the only adult in my house--no one around for me to try to impress.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Lol, as soon as my kids were in bed, the pants and bra came off! They were sitting at my feet when I typed that previous reply A nice perk of being the only adult in my house--no one around for me to try to impress.

love it!

 

[DeniseJH]

love it!

Oh, you're back. What was wrong with my responding to your post - on a discussion board?

I don't think she's going to respond - that's too bad. She should explain why I wasn't supposed to weigh in - on a discussion board.