Argh. The 20% off coupon can't be used for Disney Giftcards afterall. :(

[Free4Life11]

The Red Card 5% discount *does not* exclude gift cards (it only excludes "Target gift cards & prepaid cards)

The 20% off coupon *did* exclude gift cards

Now that being said, I understand the frustration. Target could avoid all this drama by getting rid of this whole "entertainment card" classification. But that really is just semantics....a gift card is a gift card is a gift card. Except when it's a GiftCard©

 

[JanaDee]

No, you can thank Target's CEO/CFO/lawyers etc. who did a terrible job in limiting the company's losses. It's this blame the consumer mentality that bothers me. Consumers have a right to demand what is advertised, that is why consumer protection laws came into existence over the years. This coupon and its accompanying ads could have and should have been more clear IF Target intended to limit the discount beyond the actual listed items.

It's interesting that everyone is assuming that Target is losing tons of money because of these Disney gift cards. In reality, it is possible that Target pays less than retail value for those cards, just like they do with all the manufactured products on their shelves. They sell products at a marked up price to make a profit. The most I've seen anyone claim they saved on the Disney cards was around $1,000 total. Even if that total amount was a loss to Target, that is a drop in the bucket to a multi-billion dollar corporation like Target.

THEY ARE GIFT CARDS!!! THEY ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE COUPON!!

No reasonable person is going to argue otherwise.

I'm done with this cringe-worthy thread.. If you'd like to continue to argue about a discount you aren't entitled to, have at it.

I'm out.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Because this IS a coupon. It's not the RedCard or Pharmacy standard discount programs.

 

[SUSIEQ]

I totally agree with the above, if it worked for everyone I don't think there would be that many complaints. I went to 5 target stores and the 5th one finally gave me the discount....and yes I purchased all 200 cards they had hanging on the checkout racks. When I was denied at a store I did not rant or ask to call corporate, I did try to state they were listed as entertainment but when I was told no i said that you and moved onto the next store hoping for the best. Did I take advantage of a mistake that target made....I'm not sure cause they allowed me to do it last year. All I do know is that I feel lucky that due to their mistake my family will enjoy a little more Disney magic then we might have without the $2000 savings.

Good for you!

 

[mom2AidanAndEli]

Hypothetical question....

If the Target 20% coupon said "Gift cards included. Entertainment cards excluded," would you all be arguing that it's a gift card????? After all, it says gift card right on it. I want my discount now!!!!

Seems like an easy way to twist something for your own gain.

Have you ever gone to Disney Store and asked to buy an "entertainment card"? They'd look at you like you had two heads. But ask for a "gift card" and you'll get the exact same one Target is selling.

I can't believe people are arguing about this to this extent. Wow, nothing better to do at Christmas time?

Also can't believe I got sucked in to posting again....

Anyone??????? Can any of you who are arguing for the "entertainment card" ridiculousness, please answer?

 

[Eastern]

Anyone??????? Can any of you who are arguing for the "entertainment card" ridiculousness, please answer?

If the ad had said, "Disney cards excluded" it would have been better. Since they were included in the promo last year with the $10 off $50 coupon, some may have assumed it would work the same way this year.

Because we were told last year that, since it was an 'entertainment card', it would work. And lots of people got the discount on these 'entertainment' cards.

And no one was saying, 'you can't do that, it is really a gift card!' on these boards, back then.

 

[Halloweenqueen]

I wonder if the customers who took advantage could be held responsible? Getting a couple of cards through a manager override is one thing, clearing out a store of $10,000 of gift cards is another.

And admitting it took 5 different stores to be successful? Sounds like the buyer was fully aware of the gift cards not being included in the offer.

 

[Eastern]

I wonder if the customers who took advantage could be held responsible? Getting a couple of cards through a manager override is one thing, clearing out a store of $10,000 of gift cards is another.

And admitting it took 5 different stores to be successful? Sounds like the buyer was fully aware of the gift cards not being included in the offer.

Held responsible for what? Buying a lot of gift cards with a coupon?

 

[disneychrista]

You are/were able to print 2 per computer. If people have/had more than one computer then they get to print more. I myself have multiple computers and got 10 coupons last year. I didn't do anything wrong - I simply used all the resources available to me.
And as for clearing the shelves- my target has Disney GC at each register. So it would take a lot to clear their inventory.

Did the coupon actually say 2 per computer? Or is that just your way of justifying it?

 

[mom2AidanAndEli]

Held responsible for what? Buying a lot of gift cards with a coupon?

For scamming the store out of $2,000. We're not talking a dollar or two here. We're talking a concerted effort to get $2,000 that they were not meant to get. Just wrong.....

 

[Halloweenqueen]

Held responsible for what? Buying a lot of gift cards with a coupon?

Coupon fraud is a real thing.

 

[DarthMole]

For scamming the store out of $2,000. We're not talking a dollar or two here. We're talking a concerted effort to get $2,000 that they were not meant to get. Just wrong.....

Since the Manager or someone in charge had to run the transaction (override), I don't see how the customer would be in any legal trouble. The issue is more of an ethical one after they are turned down once or twice. By the fifth store, they are really just on a mission to con a Target manager into giving them a discount the corporation never intended them to have.

 

[Halloweenqueen]

Since the Manager or someone in charge had to run the transaction (override), I don't see how the customer would be in any legal trouble. The issue is more of an ethical one after they are turned down once or twice. By the fifth store, they are really just on a mission to con a Target manager into giving them a discount the corporation never intended them to have.

Target would have to prosecute. Coupon fraud happens all the time when a customer uses a coupon for different item than listed on the coupon by using the store inventory or sku number. Stores usually don't go after people when the fraud is for a few dollars, but for thousands? Idk. The PP would have four managers able to testify that she was told no. I doubt she told the fifth she had tried four times already.

 

[DisneyFEB2013]

I, as the consumer, did nothing wrong. I simply asked why they were not included when they are referred to as entertainment cards. The manager agreed with me and did the override. If she had said no, I would have left it at that and not gone to another store. What am I going to be held responsible for? Asking a question? This thread has gotten ridiculous. No one is going to get fired (except maybe the higher ups that approved the terrible wording on the coupon), no one is going to have their gift cards cancelled and no one is going to be arrested for coupon fraud. The thing that gets me is that all of you think that the people on DIS are the only ones out there using this coupon. The manager told me she had done lots of overrides for other things that were confusing with the coupon wording (video consoles for example). Don't think the DIS is going to bring down Target. Target is a LARGE corporation. You aren't the only ones shopping there.

 

[Iheartfall]

It absolutely baffles me how any rational person can say, with sound mind, that the Disney cards are not gift cards.

Noun: A gift card is a restricted monetary equivalent or scrip that is issued by retailers or banks to be used as an alternative to a non-monetary gift.

Please explain to me how they are not gift cards.

Its just people who are wrong don't want to admit it. So they fight it down to the bone. Having to go to multiple stores to finally get an employee to override the system. Oh come on! If it were allowed it would've gone in and discounted. I'm guessing these are the same people who cry foul if their child doesn't get an award. PEOPLE GET YOUR 5% OFF AND BE HAPPY.

I saw this deal online and noticed it doesn't cover gift cards. Which to me means Disney gift cards. Even if they do ring up written as entertainment cards it is still a giftcard. To me just having them have the words "Gift card" on the card would mean its a gift card and can't be used under this coupon. There are people (customers) going into Target and causing scenes. This is ridiculous and so childish. Target is nice enough to let their 5% discount + pharmacy rewards 5% to be used on these. Honestly, I hope they take all the discounts away.

This is just like the people who give excuses when they print out to many coupons " Oh I have 4 computers so I can print out four $5 off $5 coupons" Even if it states only one coupon per person. Maybe soon we'll have to sign a one page contract before using a coupon and scan a personal I.D.

Common sense has flown out the window and it won't be back .

 

[nugov2]

Target would have to prosecute. Coupon fraud happens all the time when a customer uses a coupon for different item than listed on the coupon by using the store inventory or sku number. Stores usually don't go after people when the fraud is for a few dollars, but for thousands? Idk. The PP would have four managers able to testify that she was told no. I doubt she told the fifth she had tried four times already.

Are you kidding me. That is a little extreme. There isn't a chance that a consumer would be prosecuted for coupon fraud for this scenario. You think when the store realizes they made a mistake(if it is one) they will just know to go to those 5 stores and talk to the manager? You think they are going to review the secruity footage at each store, interview the managers, hire a lawyer and take this consumer to court over this? Costing them way more than what the person saved? You think they want that bad image of prosecuting a consumer for using a coupon on this purchase? One that people can prove that in the past you have been able to use coupons on and that some managers said, yes you should be able to do it. The person who is being prosecuted will get their lawyer to interview those managers. What about all the other people who were able to use it without going to multiple stores or even asking...you think the lawyer will find them too? This case will be thrown out and Target will have a consumer backlash against them. I don't see that happening...ever.

 

[mom2AidanAndEli]

Since the Manager or someone in charge had to run the transaction (override), I don't see how the customer would be in any legal trouble. The issue is more of an ethical one after they are turned down once or twice. By the fifth store, they are really just on a mission to con a Target manager into giving them a discount the corporation never intended them to have.

Agreed--there's not going to be any legal trouble. But I would think the ethical would be enough to stop people. Obviously, it's not. I mean, seriously????? Told no at 4 different stores and still trying? "Con" is right.

I'm sure the manager who finally did do the override and gave the customer $2,000 they shouldn't have gotten will be in BIG trouble. But at long as the customer gets a good deal on their vacation, who cares???

You didn't get an extra quarter in change and keep it because you didn't realize. You didn't slip through a $1 coupon that had expired without checking the date. You CONNED--no other way to say it--the store out of $2,000. And the poor manager will be paying the price for it.

Enjoy your vacation!!!

 

[nugov2]

Its just people who are wrong don't want to admit it. So they fight it down to the bone. Having to go to multiple stores to finally get an employee to override the system. Oh come on! If it were allowed it would've gone in and discounted. I'm guessing these are the same people who cry foul if their child doesn't get an award. PEOPLE GET YOUR 5% OFF AND BE HAPPY.

I saw this deal online and noticed it doesn't cover gift cards. Which to me means Disney gift cards. Even if they do ring up written as entertainment cards it is still a giftcard. To me just having them have the words "Gift card" on the card would mean its a gift card and can't be used under this coupon. There are people (customers) going into Target and causing scenes. This is ridiculous and so childish. Target is nice enough to let their 5% discount + pharmacy rewards 5% to be used on these. Honestly, I hope they take all the discounts away.

This is just like the people who give excuses when they print out to many coupons " Oh I have 4 computers so I can print out four $5 off $5 coupons" Even if it states only one coupon per person. Maybe soon we'll have to sign a one page contract before using a coupon and scan a personal I.D.

Common sense has flown out the window and it won't be back .

I agree, but on both sides of the argument. I can see those who asked and got it. I personally wouldn't go from store to store but more powere to ya if you did. Is it ethically wrong...it is the same as using a coupon forwarded to you from a friend(also technically coupon fraud), buying a coupon online(also fraud). Each person has to draw the line, but I can't stand when people who will do one thing..ie print out multiple coupons when you only are supposed to get one, will chastise others for something that falls into the same category. IMO that is what this is a case of. I find it hilarious how Chicken Little some Disers are acting about this though. Like Target is going to change all these policies b/c some people were able to use a coupon, people are going to be prosecuted, gift cards will be cancelled, people will be fired, food will not be on the table...a little the sky is falling IMO

 

[FrostedSteph]

I'm reposting some of my previous responses because it is clear that some people are not thoroughly reading through this thread.



Has anyone demanded the discount? I am not sure. I read through this entire thread and it seems like the people who have gotten it have been perfectly polite and kind. And by most accounts the Target employees have been very happy for the customers. That was our case anyway.

I agree that some people are being very extreme and harsh. I think it probably has to do with the fact that some of those people did not get the discount. I would be upset too - but I knew going into it that it may or may not work. Just because it worked for some people doesn't mean that those people are horrible people who are costing employees their jobs and taking away other discounts in the future. Target knows about the discount. I guarantee you that when a customer comes in and buys thousand of dollars in ANYTHING, they notice. Do you think that last time you spent $4000 and got your 5 or 10% off that they didn't notice? When was the last time you ever spent that much in Target? I'm just saying. They are aware of the situation.
Would I have personally gone to 5 different stores? No. But there are a lot of people out there who have done that for less/more.

The whole argument of is it a gift card, is it an entertainment card? Would you go into a Disney store and ask for an entertainment card? Of course not, but by using the red card discount, you TOO KNOW THAT THEY DO NOT CLASSIFY them as gift cards. And had it worked for everyone, you wouldn't bat an eyelash. The fact that there is a lot of confusing information out there and that did not work in your favor, is causing you to argue things that you would not otherwise argue.

People are going to get fired! The people on disboards have ruined everything! They are taking all discounts away! The sky is falling!!

 

[FrostedSteph]

I agree, but on both sides of the argument. I can see those who asked and got it. I personally wouldn't go from store to store but more powere to ya if you did. Is it ethically wrong...it is the same as using a coupon forwarded to you from a friend(also technically coupon fraud), buying a coupon online(also fraud). Each person has to draw the line, but I can't stand when people who will do one thing..ie print out multiple coupons when you only are supposed to get one, will chastise others for something that falls into the same category. IMO that is what this is a case of. I find it hilarious how Chicken Little some Disers are acting about this though. Like Target is going to change all these policies b/c some people were able to use a coupon, people are going to be prosecuted, gift cards will be cancelled, people will be fired, food will not be on the table...a little the sky is falling IMO

I was literally typing out the Chicken Little reference at the exact same time as you! Great minds!