Are there any Plans on adding new DVC Resorts?

[Rubeng724]

Are there any plans on adding new DVC resorts?

Just Curious...

 

[spiceycat]

there are plans for DVC resorts at all the deluxe WDW resorts.

offsite - depends upon Aulani - if it sells out quickly - then maybe.

 

[DVC Dude]

there are plans for DVC resorts at all the deluxe WDW resorts.

The only two missing at Poly and Yacht Club

 

[nabi]

Always forget the yacht club. Suppose it's because it seems like practically the same location as the beach club.


There's likely no way to space out new developments until 2042, when others are due to expire, is there? There's going to be a long lull in that "new DVC" excitement.

 

[Chic]

Are there any plans on adding new DVC resorts?

Just Curious...

I'm sure you're aware that the Grand Floridian Villas are about to open. The next DVC Villas will be at the Polynesian. Construction is supposed to begin at the Polynesian sometime near the end of this year and the opening date should be in 2015.

 

[spiceycat]

I'm sure you're aware that the Grand Floridian Villas are about to open. The next DVC Villas will be at the Polynesian. Construction is supposed to begin at the Polynesian sometime near the end of this year and the opening date should be in 2015.

I though the Polyn would not be open until 2018 - it is a lot bigger than the GFV.

 

[Joey7295]

I'm sure you're aware that the Grand Floridian Villas are about to open. The next DVC Villas will be at the Polynesian. Construction is supposed to begin at the Polynesian sometime near the end of this year and the opening date should be in 2015.

Is the Poly confirmed or is it still just rumors?

 

[spiceycat]

Is the Poly confirmed or is it still just rumors?

hey even confirmed DVC resorts that were later cancelled.

there was one in Cal and the one where those homes are now (close to POR). they got written up in the dvc news magazine (much better than Disney Files). It only deal with DVC resorts and some on the parks. Then the parks were only mentioned when something was new or happening. Not just to fill the pages. It was much more pro-DVC than the Disney Files.

forgot there is also plans for one at FW.

Steve seems pretty sure that Polyn DVC will happen. Been disappointed too many times by DVC changing their minds - so can only hope it is true.

 

[Deb & Bill]

hey even confirmed DVC resorts that were later cancelled.

there was one in Cal and the one where those homes are now (close to POR). they got written up in the dvc news magazine (much better than Disney Files). It only deal with DVC resorts and some on the parks. Then the parks were only mentioned when something was new or happening. Not just to fill the pages. It was much more pro-DVC than the Disney Files.

forgot there is also plans for one at FW.

Steve seems pretty sure that Polyn DVC will happen. Been disappointed too many times by DVC changing their minds - so can only hope it is true.

Eagle Pines was supposed to be where Golden Oaks is being built.

 

[Minniesgal]

There is a lot of land in WDW and DVC seems to be quite a cash earner I'd say its a good bet.

 

[drusba]

Poly is still just a maybe. A few years back, there were also some drawings revealed by the designer (without DVD's permission) on its website for a DVC at Fort Wilderness (in area where the remains of River Country are) and thus that is still another maybe. Also, there has been mention of a possble south tower at the Contemporary

Eagle Pines, where the Osprey Ridge and Eagle Pines Golf Courses were, was one officially announced shortly before 9/11. It was never officially cancelled but is obviously a concept that is now gone. After 9/11, DVD switched and built SSR and that Eagle Pines area is now where the Four Seasons resort is being being built and where Disney is building single family homes (Golden Oaks).

If you really go back in time, I remember there was a plan for one at Newport Beach and one in Virginia.

 

[Carl'n'Ellie'sDad]

Depends on which bus driver you talk to...

 

[dvc_john]

The never built DVC's include:

Newport Coast California, now the site of Marriott's Newport Coast Villas (timeshare)

Eagle Pines, dropped when they decided on SSR instead

New York City (a combined hotel and DVC), now the site of the Westin New York (hotel)

Beaver Creek, Colorado, now the site of Hyatt Mountain Lodge (timeshare)

Disneyland Paris, now the site of Marriott's Village d'ille de France (timeshare)

Of the above, I believe only the Newport Coast and Eagle Pines projects were ever officially announced. And the DLP project was probably more speculation than anything else.
See yesterland for more info: http://www.yesterland.com/dvcnever.html

Although not DVC resorts, I have been fortunate enough to stay at Marriott's Newport Coast Villas, Hyatt Mountain Lodge, and Marriott' Village d'ille de France. All would have been great DVC's.


Also:
National Harbor near Washington DC (only a hotel was announced, but some rumors speculated on a DVC component. Project dropped.)
And for Disney parks never built, there's Disney's America in Virginia in suburban D.C. Not built due to protests that it didn't belong near those historic sites. I believe the site is now strip malls, country clubs, housing, etc.

 

[Chic]

Is the Poly confirmed or is it still just rumors?

Disney has not made the official announcement regarding Villas at the Polynesian so it doesn't interfere with current sales at the Grand Floridian DVC currently underway. Trust me, DVC is going to build Villas at the Polynesian and construction will begin by the end of this year.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

While typically discussed in other contexts (e.g., Universal's growth, future projects at WDW), other discussion boards across the web have highlighted a decline in Disney's domestic hotel occupancy, which is now down to 78%. Supposedly, moderates are taking the biggest hit.

Depending on which discussion boards you follow, there is speculation that DVC construction at one or more of the moderates will follow the Polynesian, to alleviate an occupancy problem.

 

[Dean]

The never built DVC's include:

Newport Coast California, now the site of Marriott's Newport Coast Villas (timeshare)

Eagle Pines, dropped when they decided on SSR instead

New York City (a combined hotel and DVC), now the site of the Westin New York (hotel)

Beaver Creek, Colorado, now the site of Hyatt Mountain Lodge (timeshare)

Disneyland Paris, now the site of Marriott's Village d'ille de France (timeshare)

Of the above, I believe only the Newport Coast and Eagle Pines projects were ever officially announced. And the DLP project was probably more speculation than anything else.
See yesterland for more info: http://www.yesterland.com/dvcnever.html

Although not DVC resorts, I have been fortunate enough to stay at Marriott's Newport Coast Villas, Hyatt Mountain Lodge, and Marriott' Village d'ille de France. All would have been great DVC's.


Also:
National Harbor near Washington DC (only a hotel was announced, but some rumors speculated on a DVC component. Project dropped.)
And for Disney parks never built, there's Disney's America in Virginia in suburban D.C. Not built due to protests that it didn't belong near those historic sites. I believe the site is now strip malls, country clubs, housing, etc.

There were also rumors of a HI option at the same time as NY and CO, no specifics were ever available that I am aware of but the rumors seemed credible. VB as also scaled back to a smaller resort.

 

[tjkraz]

While typically discussed in other contexts (e.g., Universal's growth, future projects at WDW), other discussion boards across the web have highlighted a decline in Disney's domestic hotel occupancy, which is now down to 78%. Supposedly, moderates are taking the biggest hit.

The primary reason for a decline in occupancy, expressed as a percent, is the addition of new units.

In 2012 the number of Disney-owned hotel rooms at WDW increased 8.5% from 22,000 to 24,000 with the debut of Art of Animation.

Disney combines figures for the 18 Walt Disney World hotels and 3 Disneyland hotels in its annual report. Total occupancy was reported as having dropped from 82% in Fiscal Year 2011 to 81% in FY 2012. But when you factor in the growth in capacity, overall room nights still increased.

That said, consideration has been given to the eventual conversion of a Moderate to DVC. Coronado Springs is the most likely candidate given that it has the best infrastructure in place to support DVC villas. Size-wise the rooms are on par with Value villas at AKV. Although given DVC's recent gravitation toward more plush accommodations, I suspect they'd be looking at tearing-down existing buildings and rebuilding, similar to how Saratoga Springs as developed.

Poly certainly seems to have the most wind behind its sails right now but thus far no permits have even been filed, much less construction begun. In 2010 a Fort Wilderness DVC was much further along than the Poly is today, and that project was delayed indefinitely.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

The primary reason for a decline in occupancy, expressed as a percent, is the addition of new units.

In 2012 the number of Disney-owned hotel rooms at WDW increased 8.5% from 22,000 to 24,000 with the debut of Art of Animation.

Disney combines figures for the 18 Walt Disney World hotels and 3 Disneyland hotels in its annual report. Total occupancy was reported as having dropped from 82% in Fiscal Year 2011 to 81% in FY 2012. But when you factor in the growth in capacity, overall room nights still increased.

That said, consideration has been given to the eventual conversion of a Moderate to DVC. Coronado Springs is the most likely candidate given that it has the best infrastructure in place to support DVC villas. Size-wise the rooms are on par with Value villas at AKV. Although given DVC's recent gravitation toward more plush accommodations, I suspect they'd be looking at tearing-down existing buildings and rebuilding, similar to how Saratoga Springs as developed.

Poly certainly seems to have the most wind behind its sails right now but thus far no permits have even been filed, much less construction begun. In 2010 a Fort Wilderness DVC was much further along than the Poly is today, and that project was delayed indefinitely.

Yes, my post failed to account for the addition of new rooms, which affected the occupancy percentage. Reporting the percentage alone is somewhat misleading.

While accounting for a small percentage of the overall domestic inventory, significantly high occupancy levels at DLR (e.g., > 90%) also affect the interpretation of the reported percentage.

Whatever the true numbers may be, the moderates are often noted as struggling the most. The addition of themed-rooms was one response.

 

[Chic]

Depending on which discussion boards you follow, there is speculation that DVC construction at one or more of the moderates will follow the Polynesian, to alleviate an occupancy problem.

I have also heard rumors about DVC building at the Moderate Resort level. Part of me doubts this will ever happen because it would be a step backwards in regards to location and hotel category. With DVC being at the Contemporary, Grand Floridian, and eventually the Polynesian, anything else would be going down the ladder instead of up. The only other scenario I can imagine would be a Moderate Level DVC Resort which costs less per point to purchase and requires less points per night to book accommodations.

 

[luv2sleep]

I wish they'd build another DVC resort somewhere in California!