Anyone use Payless rental or Budget??

megnsamsgrace

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I have the entertainment book coupon for Budget for 20% off a weekly rate. For my 16 days in Disney, the total was $497 including everything. They said they will hold my reservation with no deposit until my trip, and I can pay when we pick up. Has anyone done that with them? I have the confirmation email but still, its a minivan that we HAVE to have since we have 7 ppl. We aren't going until October but I am very leary of them holding it that long. Then I found Payless is cheaper by $50... is it worth it? Or do they not have a reputable business? I have heard bad things about them? Thanks! Steph mom to Sam 6:earsboy: Megan 4:earsgirl: Grace 2 :earsgirl: And baby #4 due in 11 1/2 weeks:sunny:
 
Your reservation with budget should be fine. I would go with them since they are on site. I am however very reluctant to go with rental car agencies outside the majors since they seem to give you more run around on insurnace and stuff.
 
This is one man's opinion. I never suggest taking one negative review from someone who had a bad experience. That said...

I used Americar, but Americar and Payless share a building. The contracts say "Payless/Americar," and the key chains say the same. I'm assuming they're the same company at this point. So although the below is based on Americar, I'd be assuming Payless would have the same policies.

I'm going to cut and past this from my 2002 trip report. It's a little long, pardon that. It's an emotional issue for me. Note, we went in September, when Hurrican Isidor was hitting the Gulf Coast:

"The non-emotional view of Americar: Long lines when no one else had lines, due to people coming back and standing in line 2 and 3 times to go over problems with their car. This was precipitated by Americar/Payless policy to simply scare the living daylights out of customers so they would purchase waiver insurance. I am used to renting cars and signing many documents stating they can charge me what I want if there are problems: they can't. There are laws, and most credit cards have built in protection. Dodging the hard-sell of insurance is part of renting a discount car, but the problem here was the viciousness with which they performed this sales pitch.

They asked me what my deductible was, which is $500, then put a $500 hold on my credit card. I've never been asked to do this inside the Continental US before. I was told to mark everything bigger than a quarter and given a 3 x 5 card. When I went to the car, it looked like a crushed beer can. I went back in and insisted that rather than write this all down, I'd simply like a representative to stand by the car while I videotaped it.

When I came back in, I found my wife in a frenzy. I am not susceptible to sales pitches. My wife, who for the record is smarter and more educated than I, is somewhat susceptible to the same. In the five minutes it took me to document damage to the car, the check-in lady had my wife convinced that Isidor had, in fact, taken a northeast turn and was now expected to slam into central Florida. She also tried to convince my wife that our collision didn't cover hurricanes. After asking my wife what hotel we'd booked, she told Amy that the Best Western LBV had a lot of trees around and should the hurricane hit the area, which it most certainly would in some form or another, cars in the BW LBV parking lot would be sitting ducks for flying limbs, and again, our insurance wouldn't cover it because it was a "natural disaster." I cannot describe the anger I felt at this folly.

Also, they promised me a "Geo Metro" or equivalent. I didn't worry about this originally. Our needs from a vacation car are little, just to get from the airport to hotel and back, out to shopping, and for our trip to Citiwalk each vacation. We like having the car "in case" we want to take a day trip, mostly just for convenience. I prefer the smallest, most beat up thing on the lot, making it easy to park and perhaps something that turns off potential car-jackers. I figured NOTHING was smaller and worth less than a Metro. Ever heard of a Suzuki Swift? I'm not complaining about the car itself, it seemed like an OK car. But it's a three cylinder, not a four. And despite this, it seemed to get remarkably bad gas millage. Regardless, it was hardly equivalent to a Metro. Someone emailed me and referred to it as "an electric roller skate," which about covers it.

Finally, I was told the gas tank contained 2/3rds a tank of gas and I only had to fill it 2/3rds full upon return. This is one of the most pathetic ploys I've ever seen. She pointed out to me that as the tank only holds 9 gallons, "it would probably be easier to just buy the tank." I wasn't going to do that, but obviously, filling a tank that small to exactly 2/3rds of a tank was impossible, so I filled it. It's not the money: it may have cost me an extra $3 to fill the thing. It's the principle.

Since I've now written the diatribe I promised to avoid, I'll simply say that as someone who's rented literally hundreds of cars, this is the most disappointing, angering, and probably illegal transaction I've ever had with a rental company. I'd also point out I checked them on the Better Business Bureau site and they rank as unsatisfactory for refusal to answer to complaints.

So I had to spend the next hour convincing my wife that our collision DID cover rental car damage, even if it was caused by an "act of God." I'll not complain to Americar. I don't wish to speak with them for sixty two bucks. And although I'll be checking my CC bill for the next six months, they don't seem to have pulled anything fishy with the billing. But note: I'm so easily pleased that some people don't take my reviews of Orlando services serious. It takes a lot to tick me off. But these guys win the prize."
 

We rented from Budget on our last trip. I let DH handle the car rental, and when he told me Budget I was more than a little worried...but figured it would give me some sort of bargaining power for a special treat if things went wrong. I also made sure I had Yourrides number in my pocket :)

To make a long story short it was the nicest experience at a rental counter I've ever had. The agent was friendly and never even mentioned the insurance, she saw we were paying with a Platinum card and automatically waived it. She did point out that we were initialling to waive the insurance :)

The car was nice--a Ford Focus with 1600 miles on it (yes, only two zero's after the 16) and the return was a breeze.

The only problem we had was there was some sort of schmootzy all over the Windsheild on the inside, but I borrowed a paper towel and some Windex from the security booth attendent and had it cleaned in a matter of seconds.

All in all they were excellent, and we're using them again on the next trip!

Anne
 
I have used Payless at MCO several times and have not had any problems I would call their fault.

Twice with Payless at MCO (and also twice with other companies in other locations) they told me that the car had more gas than the gauge indicated. For example they said it was 6/8 (3/4 or 12/16) when the gauge showed 11/16. In all instances including both Payless's they agreed to, upon my request, mark it down as going out rounded down to the nearest eighth rather than up (5/8 or 10/16).

I did see long lines at Payless on one occasion, fortunately I got there before the lines built up.

Usually they have given me a car ahead of scheduled picup but once I had to wait. (Rather I chose to wait because they did offer a higher priced car immediately.) It was my fault, I had scheduled the pickup several hours later since my flight was uncertain. They let me take the shuttle back to the airport for a meal and back again to their office. They did give me the car as reserved exactly when the pickup time was.

I didn't but now I suggest bringing a gauge and checking tire pressure. Low tire pressure costs gas mileage. I did notice that the last two Payless MCO cars I rented seemed to have poor gas mileage for their size, but other rental cars haven;t been much better. Once I put a little too much gas into a rental car on return day (not WDW) and then decided to "do some beach cruising and girl* watching" just to consume gas. Then it got too close to flight departure and I had to quit that.

Most agencies including Payless (the times I rented) give a page with a diagram of the car to check off pre-existing damage. If a section of the car looked like a crushed beer can, I can certainly photograph the car myself, fill that secition of the diagram with "X"'s of varying sizes and add the comment "dents, scratches, and damage too numerous to enumerate" and I would expect them to prove what was new damage.

Never had any problem with over agressive agents pushing the collision waivers and other insurances, except for one time with National at MCO.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

*now you know I'm a guy
 
To SeashoreCM,

I respect your opinion. I'd used Payless before September, once in Orlando, several times in other cities, and previously had no problems. And as I preface my first message, I personally don't suggest basing decisions on one person's bad review, and I don't suggest doing it with mine.

However, as someone who does a lot of car renting, dealing with those folks was downright awful. This took place on a Thursday in late September, normally a very slow time. Let me clarify (I wrote that review when I got home and was still a little red with anger), it wasn't so much the long lines as slow moving lines. The reason was almost every single person was getting angry with the gestapo tactics of the reps trying to sell insurance, almost every person went to their car and immediately came back to complain that the marks on the car were too numerous to document, and a good half of them were fed up enough that they wished to speak to the manager. This, perhaps more than long lines, caused it to be a fifty minute experience.

Also, I was renting from Americar, not Payless. But when there is no separate line for Americar on McCoy Road, and the reservations come from the same computer, printed on the same contracts, I can't separate one from the other. These folks were awful. That I didn't like the Suzuki Swift being "comparable" to a Geo Metro is splitting hairs (they're both a step above a go cart, I knew that when I made the reservation. But filling the tank 2/3rds full and saying you only have to return it 2/3rds full, that's a borderline illegal business practice.

There were a dozen little things (very poor return directions come to mind immediately), but what sticks out most in my mind was that during a slow time when they needed revenues, they were handing out banged up cars and pushing the huricane to try and scare people into buying what is universally believed to be overpriced, unnecessary insurance coverage, preying on those who don't do this monthly. In the case of my wife, they succeeded in scaring the pants off of her (while I was out videotaping a cosmetically messed up car, which indeed looked somewhat like a crushed Budwiser can). This resulted in life not being very fun for the next hour while I convinced her she should trust me, not Americar/Payless, when it comes to our insurance, and it took her a day or two to "get over it." As a result, I'll not do business with Payless or Americar again, in Orlando or elsewhere.

I will say this: their rating with the Better Business Bureau, which was unsatisfactory and incomplete when I checked it upon return from my trip, is now free and clear. None-the-less, treat me like that once, you'll not see another dime of my money.
 
Another thing to consider is your insurance. I use a Diner's Club card and when I have called Diner's about insurance coverage they have been pretty clear that I will have no issues with the "Major" car rental places, but...... while they will cover the other's it will probably be a bigger hassle since they don't have a relationship.

I did have to use my Diner's coverage when I broke a headlight in Spain and it was great. They paid everything and I did not have to worry about claims that I done thousands of dollars of damage to the car (which I have heard happens in Europe!)
 












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