Anyone think they get rooked by their vet?

I love my Vet, he loves his work and yes he does the soft sell thing, but he does have a family to feed so im dont look down on him for it.

I just told him im not into the new pet craze and ask for a good price food that he feeds his dog, that we need min of shots and what would be the best thing to prevent dental care in the future.

Also the dog breed I have lives to be about 10-11 year old. im not willing to put the dog thru any kind of horrible surgery and suffering so that i can pet and love that dog for one more day, month, year.

Im not trying to get people mad I do love my animal and i care for her with love and spend lots of time with her and on her care, but there is a limit.

I think alot of people are taken advantage of with if your dont do this you dont love your dog or cat.
 
Shots can be gotten at TSC (Tractor Supply Company) and pharmacies that cater to pet owners. Co-ops often have them. We do this ourselves with the exception of the MinPin. Since he often travels with me, I have to have proof of his shots (I dayboard him while I"m in meetings).

My vet showed me a good way for giving a cat a shot (takes two people though). One person grasps the skin on the back of the cat's neck and gently shakes the cat back and forth. That distracts him/her while the ohter person gives the shot. I have one cat who has immune issues and from time to time has to have shots. This works very well.

I have found that saving a photocopy of the small box, paperwork inside and receipt will suffice for most places for proof of vaccination.:thumbsup2
 
As a healthcare provider, it is your vet's job to recommend all the things he/she thinks should be done for your dog, and to explain why he/she thinks they need to be done.

Your dog, at age 14, is a geriatric dog, regardless of how she runs around. She may actlike a pup, but her body is still 14. A geriatric blood panel is not out fo the question for a 14 year old dog, and the cost is probably based on what the lab charges to run the testing, which, I would imagine would vary based on location. There are many issues that can be detected early through lab work, expecially in an elderly dog. Your vet is suggesting this to "CYA", so that in the event that your elderly dog develops an issue that could have been picked up with this blood test, your vet has documentation that it was discussed with you and you refused it, rather han you being able to say "Nobody ever told me that" with all the inherent possibiities that implies.

Teeth cleaning is another viable discussion to have with a pet owner. As is the case with humans with poor dentition, dogs with poor dentition could be susceptible to a host of illnesses. I used to brush my dog's teeth daily, in addition to giving him dog treats that were formulated to help scrape tartar off his teeth. The poster who commented about not recalling burshing her dog's teeth when she was growing up probably also doesn't recall wearing a helmet to ride her bike when she was growing up either, but we do that now. As time goes on, we learn about new things and how they can benefit us. The same is true in veterinary medicine.

Glucosamine...pretty cheap, can be bought OTC. Small dogs don't tend to have as many joint issues as larger dogs, because they don't carry as much weight. If your dog doesn't appear to be having ANY mobility issues, then I would probably hold off on glucosamine until such time as you noticed the dog moving slower, having difficulty getting up, having difficulty on stairs.

I wouldn't necessarily fault my vet for providing you with all the information your decisions. I would also say that if this vet has given you cause in the past to doubt him/her, then by all means, I would consider changing vets. But based on what you posted, it just sounds like your vet is trying to practice good preventive veterinary care for an elderly dog.
 
I have two vets; the regular vet and the canine opthamologist that my male sees regularly. I've never had either soft sell anything. I especially love the opthamologist. Not only does he tell me the costs up front for everything, he also thoroughly explains the pros and cons and his estimate of the percentage of benefit my dog may receive from the treatment. For the work he does, I continue to be surprised at how little he charges.
 

My vet is usually pretty good. Last fall my cat was acting sluggish i didnt want to take him to the vet because i figured he just had a cold or something and i am cheap and didnt want to spend the money. So finally my momsaid she would pay for it. so i took him, even before i took him he was acting fine again but i had the appointment so i took him. The vet said he looked fine, he could do blood tests but he didnt have to if we didnt want to spend the money. of course i said do them since my mom was paying. Turned out his blood sugar was like 400 and he has diabetes. So now i have to spend like $70 a month on his food. they did blood test a month later and his sugar was down to 190 so he didnt have to have insulin or even come back for a follow up. but he just has to be on the food for the rest of his life
 
:thumbsup2 Very well said IMO.

As a healthcare provider, it is your vet's job to recommend all the things he/she thinks should be done for your dog, and to explain why he/she thinks they need to be done.

Your dog, at age 14, is a geriatric dog, regardless of how she runs around. She may actlike a pup, but her body is still 14. A geriatric blood panel is not out fo the question for a 14 year old dog, and the cost is probably based on what the lab charges to run the testing, which, I would imagine would vary based on location. There are many issues that can be detected early through lab work, expecially in an elderly dog. Your vet is suggesting this to "CYA", so that in the event that your elderly dog develops an issue that could have been picked up with this blood test, your vet has documentation that it was discussed with you and you refused it, rather han you being able to say "Nobody ever told me that" with all the inherent possibiities that implies.

Teeth cleaning is another viable discussion to have with a pet owner. As is the case with humans with poor dentition, dogs with poor dentition could be susceptible to a host of illnesses. I used to brush my dog's teeth daily, in addition to giving him dog treats that were formulated to help scrape tartar off his teeth. The poster who commented about not recalling burshing her dog's teeth when she was growing up probably also doesn't recall wearing a helmet to ride her bike when she was growing up either, but we do that now. As time goes on, we learn about new things and how they can benefit us. The same is true in veterinary medicine.

Glucosamine...pretty cheap, can be bought OTC. Small dogs don't tend to have as many joint issues as larger dogs, because they don't carry as much weight. If your dog doesn't appear to be having ANY mobility issues, then I would probably hold off on glucosamine until such time as you noticed the dog moving slower, having difficulty getting up, having difficulty on stairs.

I wouldn't necessarily fault my vet for providing you with all the information your decisions. I would also say that if this vet has given you cause in the past to doubt him/her, then by all means, I would consider changing vets. But based on what you posted, it just sounds like your vet is trying to practice good preventive veterinary care for an elderly dog.
 
they did blood test a month later and his sugar was down to 190 so he didnt have to have insulin or even come back for a follow up. but he just has to be on the food for the rest of his life
Wow, 190 and you never had to come back to have it tested/followed up on? No more insulin after just one month? It used to be normal was 80-120, and we tested for several months. Often if the reason was an overweight cat,then after several months of a special diet, if it comes down and stays down (but not 190) we could try it without insullin..but never after only one follow up test. Guess you can never accuse your vet of trying to rip you off LOL!
 
I think that pet healthcare is just like human health care- advanced. We've reached a time when there are many more treatments and medications available then there were 25 years ago or even 10 years ago for that matter.

I don't believe the vet is trying to rip you off. He's just letting you know that there are tests and treatments that could make your pet healthier.

It really boils down to your philosophy. Is the pet a member of the family? Deserving of the level of healthcare that you would provide your children? or He's just a pet? You feed him and get just basic, necessary healthcare- like maybe only the shots required for the annual license and antibiotics if he's sick. There are all ranges of middle ground.

I'm not saying either is right or wrong- just different philosophies.
 
I have to say that skipping teeth cleaning in older dogs can cause deadly bacteria to seep into the blood stream that can kill the dog. I have a plan with Banfield animal hospital (they're in certain Petco's). I pay about $30 per month, it pays for all their vaccinations, teeth cleaning, free visits, and 15% any other work that needs to be done.
 
I think that pet healthcare is just like human health care- advanced. We've reached a time when there are many more treatments and medications available then there were 25 years ago or even 10 years ago for that matter.

I don't believe the vet is trying to rip you off. He's just letting you know that there are tests and treatments that could make your pet healthier.

It really boils down to your philosophy. Is the pet a member of the family? Deserving of the level of healthcare that you would provide your children? or He's just a pet? You feed him and get just basic, necessary healthcare- like maybe only the shots required for the annual license and antibiotics if he's sick. There are all ranges of middle ground.

I'm not saying either is right or wrong- just different philosophies.

I'd agree. I grew up on a farm and culling the herd was part of the life, including pets. My folks would never have spent the money I do now on pets.

Veterinarians graduate with some impressive student loans. My vet finished in 1998 with about $100K in loans. Salaries for new graduates are around $50,000, give or take, and they're not rising like they once did. The loans, however, remain.

Many vets are associates--employees. They don't set the prices but they're responsible for productivity, esp. since many established practices are being purchased by veterinary corporations as the original owners age. New vets can barely get traction in buying a practice. The current credit environment is only making things worse.

I vaccinate my horses myself for the same reasons many of the posters on this thread have mentioned: expense. But in doing so, I assume the responsibility if something goes wrong. I do take the dog and house cats to the vet but I'm about to vaccinate a barn cat myself. You can locate a vaccine with feline leukemia, panleukemia, chlamydia, Calicivirus, and rhinotracheitis.

I had some other barn cats until the end of December. Never even thought about vaccinating them, even though "something" had come through in the summer and a stray and one of the (then) unvaccinated house cats got sick.
Well, they were off in their appetites and then they were dead. That's it. I'm never going to leave an animal I'm feeding go unvaccinated again, although I would vaccinate them myself.

As far as teeth cleaning, I have learned that's a basic maintenance that gets done annually for the dog, soon to be 14. Her liver enzymes elevate. I still don't understand the correlation but there is one, and I love this dog too much not to have the cleaning done. I'll cut corners somewhere else but not with her.

With the advances in animal medicine and the useage of human pharmaceuticals in the animal population, I think consumers have come to expect more and better care for their pets and livestock. That comes at a cost. The other issue is so many diseases are zoonotic, crossing species. Veterinarians provide an invaluable service and deserve adequate renumeration for the long hours they work. Like any other profession, there will be those who poorly represent their vocation, but by and large, they have to have a broad medical knowledge base and continue to learn throughout their working lives.
 
My dog just went to the vet for an ear infection. cost- $56. The office visit was $37

I used to see another vet, however, he passed away. My dog injured her paw and I only paid $30 for an exam and medication.

There are other vets in my area that would try to run your bill up very high. You just have to know what treatments/meds that your pet needs, and you can pretty much protect yourself from being ripped off.
 

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