Animal Kingdom morning and Epcot afternoon - which needs LLMP?

[mthds]

If we go to Animal Kingdom for Early Entry rope drop with plans to hop to Epcot, should we purchase LLMP for Epcot and LLSP of Guardians at Epcot and FOP at Animal Kingdom? Or, Should I purchase LLMP for Animal Kingdom and we use them try to get Epcot LL? I just worry about not getting a LL for either Frozen or Remy. Would like to avoid one of these lines

Plan to stay at Animal Kingdom through lunch time and hop to Epcot til they close at 9. 3 adults, so long day but it will be the only way to work in animal kingdom since that park closes at 6 every day we are there. Only want to do Dinosaur, Everest, Navi, and FOP.

I already have my park reservations for Epcot that day. Is changing my park reservations fairly simple? Crowd calendar has both parks at a 5 for that day, Friday before Thanksgiving so hopefully the big holiday crowds will not have arrived by this time.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Sounds like in your situation, AK at rope drop for walk-on, LLMP at Epcot later in the day, and LLSP for FOP would be your best bet. Changing the park reservation should not be a big deal at this time, if you adjust your plans.

 

[pixiedust2u]

I was going to do something similar to your post, then thought does it make more sense and will it be less stressful do the opposite?

Hear me out….Purchase LLMP for Epcot, try to get either frozen or Remy for earliest time available. Then rope drop whichever one you don’t get, then pick 2 other tier 2 Epcot attractions even if you don’t intend to ride or don’t mind riding as a throw away. So pick Nemo, and Spaceship earth. Ride Nemo first thing with the LL even if you don’t need it, which then allows you to unlock MP, and now you can modify all your attractions with choice of time for AK, and line up Everest, Navi and once you’ve ridden Frozen or Remy whichever you had a LL for book Safari. For FOP you can either buy a LLSP and just book an evening time, or hop in line before park close at AK. For Gaurdians try the 7am VQ or buy a LLSP for your choice of AM time.

So you get all main attractions done at Epcot, have something to eat from QS , maybe catch a performance and hope to AK around 1:30 with a LL for Navi, Everest, and Safari and a LLSP for FOP, or plan to ride at close.

If you really want to see Epcot fireworks you have plenty of time to head back after AK for some down time at Epcot before calling it a night.


I liked that with plan B, I didn’t have to get up as early to rope drop AK, and don’t have to stress so much about obsessively refreshing LLMP for frozen and Remy to come back.

 

[Anna131517]

Not much is open in AK when you rope drop. We did it and because we had purchased FOP, we ended up riding Dinosaur! The trails were closed, most of the rides were closed, it was even hard to find somewhere to eat! I think you’d be better off doing it the other way around.

 

[kwdw]

Given you only want four things at AK, I would RD FOP, head to Navi, then Dinosaur, then single rider Everest. Now, you really need to be in the front of the RD pack, so I am assuming you have Early Entry for this to work.

Oh… and buy and plan LL’s at EP.

 

[pixiedust2u]

Not much is open in AK when you rope drop. We did it and because we had purchased FOP, we ended up riding Dinosaur! The trails were closed, most of the rides were closed, it was even hard to find somewhere to eat! I think you’d be better off doing it the other way around.

Although I think OP would have more success rope dropping Epcot as I highlighted above, you can have a successful AK rope drop morning. Back in March we rope dropped AK, went straight to FOP, then did Navi, stopped for a quick bite to eat at Kulasafari, went on Safari, then Everest.

 

[Draco0801]

just did this we rope dropped AK with early entry did FOP then Navi when we got to safari it was 35 min and Everest was 20 min Dinosaur was 50min. we were in Epcot by 1:30pm but did Multipass for Epcot not AK worked ok since we picked remy we have done frozen tons and we thought we might do end of night but ended up buying LL for GOTG since we haven't done that. Everything worked in the end for us

 

[saraheliz]

If you're willing to purchase the LL for FoP, I'd definitely book at Epcot. Either way you go at AK, you should be able to get a ride or two done at Early Entry (either Navi River or Dinosaur and EE) and then be ready for the safari when it opens at 8. Then you may have to wait for whatever you didn't ride at Early Entry but really, that's it. Shows, especially earlier in the day, aren't too tough to get into. When you don't use your Early Entry for FoP it really frees it up!

 

[kwdw]

If you're willing to purchase the LL for FoP, I'd definitely book at Epcot. Either way you go at AK, you should be able to get a ride or two done at Early Entry (either Navi River or Dinosaur and EE) and then be ready for the safari when it opens at 8. Then you may have to wait for whatever you didn't ride at Early Entry but really, that's it. Shows, especially earlier in the day, aren't too tough to get into. When you don't use your Early Entry for FoP it really frees it up!

THIS! Did this on my last family’s trip and it worked great. Dinosaur to EE to Safari. LLSP for FOP. We managed to hit Navi with just a 35 minute wait and saw FOTLK and had lunch at Satuli’s. ( I don’t remember the exact order after the RD plan.) Now, we did this on a departure day so we were leaving mid afternoon. But that could have easily been a hop to EP like you are thinking about.

 

[pixiedust2u]

The only thing to keep in mind if you are going to rope drop AK and hop to Epcot with the new MP system.

If you purchase LLMP for Epcot you can only pre select ONE tier one, which means you can get ONE (frozen, Remy, Soarin, or test Track) and then the rest tier 2. And of course you can buy a LLSP for your preferred time for GotG. You will NOT be able to select any other tier 1 rides until you tap into your first tier 1 at Epcot. Assume you get to Epcot in the afternoon, it is likely Remy and Frozen will be gone, they may come back with diligence and refreshing, but this will require more time on your phone and isn’t guaranteed.

If you’re going to rope drop AK, you’re almost better off selecting 3 rides at AK, with early as possible times, and then tapping into your first ride within the first our of park open, which “unlocks” LLMP- your ability to book multiple (up to 3 at a time) tier 1s at any park. Once you tap into your first LL you can then modify your two remaining LLs to tier 1s at Epcot. May take some persistence and refreshing, but you’ll have better luck at both Remy and Frozen openings earlier in the day than later.

You really have to research and understand this new system to optimize it. What seems obvious might not make the most sense!

 

[J&J]

If we go to Animal Kingdom for Early Entry rope drop with plans to hop to Epcot, should we purchase LLMP for Epcot and LLSP of Guardians at Epcot and FOP at Animal Kingdom? Or, Should I purchase LLMP for Animal Kingdom and we use them try to get Epcot LL? I just worry about not getting a LL for either Frozen or Remy. Would like to avoid one of these lines

Plan to stay at Animal Kingdom through lunch time and hop to Epcot til they close at 9. 3 adults, so long day but it will be the only way to work in animal kingdom since that park closes at 6 every day we are there. Only want to do Dinosaur, Everest, Navi, and FOP.

I already have my park reservations for Epcot that day. Is changing my park reservations fairly simple? Crowd calendar has both parks at a 5 for that day, Friday before Thanksgiving so hopefully the big holiday crowds will not have arrived by this time.

Don’t change your rides can be very hard to get what you want. They fill fast and you may not get what you want.

 

[pixiedust2u]

Don’t change your rides can be very hard to get what you want. They fill fast and you may not get what you want.

I’m not sure what you mean by this?

 

[kylenne]

If we go to Animal Kingdom for Early Entry rope drop with plans to hop to Epcot, should we purchase LLMP for Epcot and LLSP of Guardians at Epcot and FOP at Animal Kingdom? Or, Should I purchase LLMP for Animal Kingdom and we use them try to get Epcot LL? I just worry about not getting a LL for either Frozen or Remy. Would like to avoid one of these lines

If you want to get more than 1 Tier 1 LL in a park you plan on hopping into then your only real option is prebooking all three rides for AK, with one for the earliest slot available. Period.

None of the other advice anyone is telling you makes any sense for what you actually want to accomplish. You need to be able to tap into a LL ASAP to fully unlock the system while there is still LL inventory at your second park. The later you prebook for, the more you are limiting yourself. If you try to prebook for Epcot you are virtually guaranteeing you will not be able to get Remy or Frozen. They are selling out within hours same day right now in Sept when crowds aren’t nearly as bad as Nov.

For reference I executed this parkhopping strategy very successfully yesterday doing an MK to HS hop, where we rope dropped EE and I had a throwaway LL at 8am for Mad Tea Party. The only pre booked LL I actually used at MK was Tiana, at 9:50. As soon as I tapped into Mad Tea Party I was booking and modifying for HS Tier 1s, and I eventually got all of them plus Tower and Mania.

Epcot is even worse than HS because there are only 2 Tier 1s everyone is gunning for so they will both sell out fast. In order to have a prayer of getting them both you need that system unlocked as early as possible that day, which means you need a throwaway at AK park open. Otherwise kiss one of Remy or Frozen goodbye.

 

[pixiedust2u]

If you want to get more than 1 Tier 1 LL in a park you plan on hopping into then your only real option is prebooking all three rides for AK, with one for the earliest slot available. Period.

None of the other advice anyone is telling you makes any sense for what you actually want to accomplish. You need to be able to tap into a LL ASAP to fully unlock the system while there is still LL inventory at your second park. The later you prebook for, the more you are limiting yourself. If you try to prebook for Epcot you are virtually guaranteeing you will not be able to get Remy or Frozen. They are selling out within hours same day right now in Sept when crowds aren’t nearly as bad as Nov.

For reference I executed this parkhopping strategy very successfully yesterday doing an MK to HS hop, where we rope dropped EE and I had a throwaway LL at 8am for Mad Tea Party. The only pre booked LL I actually used at MK was Tiana, at 9:50. As soon as I tapped into Mad Tea Party I was booking and modifying for HS Tier 1s, and I eventually got all of them plus Tower and Mania.

Epcot is even worse than HS because there are only 2 Tier 1s everyone is gunning for so they will both sell out fast. In order to have a prayer of getting them both you need that system unlocked as early as possible that day, which means you need a throwaway at AK park open. Otherwise kiss one of Remy or Frozen goodbye.

If you want to get more than 1 Tier 1 LL in a park you plan on hopping into then your only real option is prebooking all three rides for AK, with one for the earliest slot available. Period.

None of the other advice anyone is telling you makes any sense for what you actually want to accomplish. You need to be able to tap into a LL ASAP to fully unlock the system while there is still LL inventory at your second park. The later you prebook for, the more you are limiting yourself. If you try to prebook for Epcot you are virtually guaranteeing you will not be able to get Remy or Frozen. They are selling out within hours same day right now in Sept when crowds aren’t nearly as bad as Nov.

For reference I executed this parkhopping strategy very successfully yesterday doing an MK to HS hop, where we rope dropped EE and I had a throwaway LL at 8am for Mad Tea Party. The only pre booked LL I actually used at MK was Tiana, at 9:50. As soon as I tapped into Mad Tea Party I was booking and modifying for HS Tier 1s, and I eventually got all of them plus Tower and Mania.

Epcot is even worse than HS because there are only 2 Tier 1s everyone is gunning for so they will both sell out fast. In order to have a prayer of getting them both you need that system unlocked as early as possible that day, which means you need a throwaway at AK park open. Otherwise kiss one of Remy or Frozen goodbye.

Lol you must of not seen any of my replies. I gave OP the exact same information in 2 posts.

Alternatively, I suggested OP should either rope drop Epcot, then hop to AK, or if insistent on rope dropping AK, to do exactly as you posted with the exact same explanation regarding tier 1s.

 

[mthds]

If you want to get more than 1 Tier 1 LL in a park you plan on hopping into then your only real option is prebooking all three rides for AK, with one for the earliest slot available. Period.

None of the other advice anyone is telling you makes any sense for what you actually want to accomplish. You need to be able to tap into a LL ASAP to fully unlock the system while there is still LL inventory at your second park. The later you prebook for, the more you are limiting yourself. If you try to prebook for Epcot you are virtually guaranteeing you will not be able to get Remy or Frozen. They are selling out within hours same day right now in Sept when crowds aren’t nearly as bad as Nov.

For reference I executed this parkhopping strategy very successfully yesterday doing an MK to HS hop, where we rope dropped EE and I had a throwaway LL at 8am for Mad Tea Party. The only pre booked LL I actually used at MK was Tiana, at 9:50. As soon as I tapped into Mad Tea Party I was booking and modifying for HS Tier 1s, and I eventually got all of them plus Tower and Mania.

Epcot is even worse than HS because there are only 2 Tier 1s everyone is gunning for so they will both sell out fast. In order to have a prayer of getting them both you need that system unlocked as early as possible that day, which means you need a throwaway at AK park open. Otherwise kiss one of Remy or Frozen goodbye.

But would frozen or remy even be available day of ?

 

[pixiedust2u]

But would frozen or remy even be available day of ?

Likely not at park open, but you could def fiddle faddle (tm) or refresh throughout the day and at least one of them may pop up for grabs.

That’s why I was suggesting a Epcot LLMP, to rope drop frozen or Remy, hold a LL for the later. And then have two additional LLs that can modify into LLs for AK for the afternoon.

 

[scrappinginontario]

But would frozen or remy even be available day of ?

It would not still be available but may become available if someone else drops it but, it’s tricky and can be time consuming.

Last trip we had friends who were also at Disney at the same time as us. She showed me their Remy return time and it meant they would miss the fireworks. I spent a solid 45 mins refreshing attempting to get their family if 4 an earlier return time and in 45 mins (around 1PM) it never, ever appeared.

I missed 45 mins of time with my daughter (by my choice) trying to see if I could help them as I’d read so often here of people having success.

All this to say yes, some people have success refreshing and trying to get additional Tier 1’s but not everyone does and, it can be a lot of work and time consuming.

Just wanted to post another experience that not everyone discusses.

 

[jlstwinmommy]

Remy seems to drop LLs pretty consistently at 1:48pm. I haven't seen any extra drops for Frozen so you may have to get lucky there.

I do agree with the strategy of buying for AK and then using 1 and booking EP though.

We were there last weekend and honestly I didn't buy MPLL on our AK day at all. We were able to rope drop FoP, ride the safari and ride Everest single rider. We did sacrifice Navi, but for our group that was ok. If you wanted to buy FoP, you would likely be able to rope drop Navi and get everything else done pretty quickly depending on how many animal trails you wanted to meander through.