Ahhh I'm So Excited!

Nicole786

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Sorry to create a brand new thread, but I am just so excited! I just ordered my first DSLR, a Canon Rebel XSI! After stalking this board for a month, stalking reviews, looking at flickr, I finally saved enough to get it!! Does anyone know of any "teaching" websites that can explain in laments terms what aperture means, shutter speed etc?? Especially the advantages and disadvantages of the different lenses! I think i'm going to get the nifty fifty, but if it doesn't zoom, what makes it so great?? thanks for listening!! 2 more days until my camera gets here!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
 
Congrats! :thumbsup2 Looking forward to seeing some of the pictures you take and even though a few months ago I became a Nikonian with the purchase of my first dSLR I'm still a Canonian (is that even right?? ;) ) at heart.

I can't recommend a good site, I just kind of browsed around and relied on google alot for finding out definitions, examples, etc. but a good book that many DISers on the photography board recommend is "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson. I haven't purchased it yet but have requested it for Christmas...so hopefully sometime soon!

I'm going to take a stab at answering your question about the 50mm somewhat intelligently to see what I have learned in the past few months (if anything!). :goodvibes

The 50mm doesn't zoom, you are right about that. That is called a prime lens. One of the main things people like is the price. For only a little over $100 it's hard to beat. In daylight, it is an extremely sharp lens...I can definitely see the difference between my kit lens at 50mm and my 50mm 1.8. The thing that makes it "great" would I guess be that it is a much better lens to use in low-light than the standard lenses that usually come with a camera.

In laymen's terms (someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong)...the shutter speed and aperture work together to give you the proper exposure for your photo. If you have the aperture stopped down to f/4 in low-light, you will need to use a longer shutter speed to make up for that and allow enough light to be captured/enter the sensor/whatever...you know what I mean. Because you will use a longer shutter speed, you become less and less likely to be able to do this hand-held and instead, will need a tripod. Because the nifty fifty has an aperture of 1.8, that allows more light in when it's wide open, and in turn you will get a faster shutter speed...allowing you to hand-hold the camera for photos in low-light. Does that make sense?

When you get your dslr go into a dimly lit room and night with your kit lens and you will see what I mean. You will try to take a picture of an object (your couch, your dog, etc.) and because there is poor lighting, if you are in A mode or auto mode, the shutter speed will slow-down in order compensate for the smaller aperture, making the pictures blurry if you are hand-holding. If you are in S mode, you will be able to pick a fast shutter speed, but you will notice that with such a small aperture, the picture will likely be extremely underexposed or completely dark.

Good luck, have fun and hope the explanation helped even a little! :rotfl:
Ann
 
Sorry to create a brand new thread, but I am just so excited! I just ordered my first DSLR, a Canon Rebel XSI! After stalking this board for a month, stalking reviews, looking at flickr, I finally saved enough to get it!! Does anyone know of any "teaching" websites that can explain in laments terms what aperture means, shutter speed etc?? Especially the advantages and disadvantages of the different lenses! I think i'm going to get the nifty fifty, but if it doesn't zoom, what makes it so great?? thanks for listening!! 2 more days until my camera gets here!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

I certainly mean no offense, but this statement speaks volumes. If you do not know what it does, then why do you want it? Before spending money on anything else, you should take time to understand your camera. I second Understanding Exposure to help get you there. After you know more, you might not even want that lens.
 
I certainly mean no offense, but this statement speaks volumes. If you do not know what it does, then why do you want it? Before spending money on anything else, you should take time to understand your camera. I second Understanding Exposure to help get you there. After you know more, you might not even want that lens.

If something is as popular as the nifty fifty, there has to be a reason. I certainly don't take offense, but I won't be buying it until I know more about it. Its the reason I didn't bundle it with the camera
 

Thanks for all the tips guys! I just got notice my camera shipped from B&H and should be here Wed!! I went to the library and checked out understanding exposure so i'm really looking forward to reading that. I just can't stop smiling, i'm so excited!
 
If something is as popular as the nifty fifty, there has to be a reason. I certainly don't take offense, but I won't be buying it until I know more about it. Its the reason I didn't bundle it with the camera

Many buy a lens like that just for low light shooting, but it is also useful for controlling the depth of field (DOF). Pay extra attention to that concept while reading the book. IMO that is the biggest difference between a p&s and a DSLR.

One important thing to consider when deciding on a prime lens is the focal length. For some, the 50mm is just a little too much and they prefer something like a 30mm. The difference is that the 50mm for Canon, Nikon, and Pentax are less than $200 but the cheapest 30mm is about $400 for all the different mounts. The price is why so many people talk about it.
 
Make sure you read your manual from cover to cover.
Yep, then read it again.;) I also recommend buying Understanding Exposure rather then just checking it out. I've read it cover to cover twice and still reference it quite a bit. IMO it's worth every penny I paid for it. It's the one book that really made things click for me.
 
Great info. I just got my Sony A350 a few weeks ago, and have LOTS to learn. :)
 
Yay! How exciting! I can't wait for my first DSLR.

I think this link has been the most helpful:
http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/

Also, another forum had a great tutorial that started last year. this is the first half:
http://is.twopeasinabucket.com/photocourse/weeks1to6.pdf

Have fun learning!

Thanks! I saved the PDF to my computer I can't wait to read it!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :yay: :yay: Yay!! Now only one day to go!!!!:cool1: :cool1: :banana: :banana:

Yeah! Its going to be a very slow work day today, but I think i'll be hitting bed early tonight!! I hope UPS will accept my "please leave package at front door" note because I won't be home tomorrow! :scared1:
 
Ritz/Wolf camera have a DVD series for new camera owners. I got the XSi DVD for my birthday (I got the camera earlier in the year). It's about 80 minutes of fundamentals specific to your camera.
 
Sorry to create a brand new thread, but I am just so excited! I just ordered my first DSLR, a Canon Rebel XSI! After stalking this board for a month, stalking reviews, looking at flickr, I finally saved enough to get it!! Does anyone know of any "teaching" websites that can explain in laments terms what aperture means, shutter speed etc?? Especially the advantages and disadvantages of the different lenses! I think i'm going to get the nifty fifty, but if it doesn't zoom, what makes it so great?? thanks for listening!! 2 more days until my camera gets here!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

I agree with ukcatfan, but I'll try take it a step further. Ann hit on it a little bit too, so I'll add to what she said.

You'll notice on your "kit" lens that there is a series of number 3.5:5.6 (in addition to the focal length range such as 18-50mm). These numbers are the aperture range of the lens (aka f/stop) So in this example the lens would range from f/3.5 to f/5.6 depending on where your zoom to. At the widest point of the zoom the biggest f/stop available is f/3.5. At the tightest point of the zoom the biggest f/stop is f/5.6. So the more you zoom in the smaller your f/stop becomes.

With the 50mm f/1.8 (aka the nifty-fifty) the widest aperture if f/1.8.

On an 18-55mm kit lens the widest aperture will be f/5.6. That is 3 1/3 stops slower than the f/1.8 on the 50mm prime lens. To help understand it a little more that is the same stop difference between 1/640th shutter speed and 1/60th or between ISO 160 and ISO 800. This is a HUGE difference when it comes to low light and being able to get usable shutter speeds.

Keep in mind that f/stops are fractions. So just like 1/5th is smaller than 1/2, f/5.6 is smaller than f/1.8.

Here is a comparison chart to physically show the difference in the f/stop physical size:
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Additionally, more often than not, prime lenses are sharper than zoom lenses. Especially true in comparing prime lenses to "kit" lenses. The 50mm f/1.8 lens (both Canon's and Nikon's) are VERY sharp, especially between f/2.8 and f/8. Where as the "kit" lens (18-55) would be sharpest starting around f/8 to f/11 and even still, in general, isn't as sharp (when in proper focus) as the 50mm f/1.8 prime.

When it comes to low light this lens, because of its low cost and wide aperture, is highly recommended especially when you can't use a flash. You can combine a high ISO setting in camera and a wide aperture on the lens and in many cases get fast enough shutter speeds to prevent camera shake or motion blur. Keep in mind that this is a general statement and you wont get results in all situations, but at something like many of the indoor no flash rides at Disney you can get a lot more usable images. Night time parades, indoor concerts or theater type plays/shows (depending on where your particular seats are) are other places when this type of lens will get you better results than a "kit" lens. Again, it wont work it all situations, lighting is still the biggest factor, but his type of tool will help.

Depth of field is also MUCH greater at a wide aperture. With a wide aperture you can get a much shallower DOF. Take a picture of a cup on a table with a wide f/stop and everything behind it will be out of focus. (notice how many people squint to read or see something more clearly, they're making their eyes smaller, when their eyes are wider they find more things are out of focus). With this lens you have MUCH greater control over how much DOF your image can have.
 
Thanks to everyone who has helped me out!!! I am having so much fun with my new baby and can't wait to really test it out when all the xmas decorations go up around here and disney world in 3 weeks!!! Here are some test shots I did as I learned aperture, shutter speed and iso:

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and than of course a little post photoshop editing

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