A warning about a bad ebay pin seller

[EnnEss]

Bartindem is the user name, selling many lots of the fake sidensa pins from spain . I read his feedback, its ashame so many people bought them and presumably believed them real.

 

[~Kathie]

Sedesma Pins are not fake pins. They are ©Disney pins. There are several posts in this board about them.

Here is one thread.

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1267432

 

[EpcotMatt2]

I randomly checked 10 or so of his completed auctions & they all stated that the pins he was selling were the Sedesma's. I'm not sure what the problem is. He/she was very up front & honest with what he was selling. I'm no fan of the Sedesmas, but it's not like they are illegal or bootleg pins. They're just not as desirable to all. Based on reading his listing's description stating the pins were Sedesma's, I wouldn't have bought any. But bottom line is that the seller was up front about the pins he/she was selling.

 

[FigNewton]

Yeap... Sedesma pins are perfectly real pins. They are legitimate, not fake, not bootleg.

They just suck.

 

[agnes!]

I would rather have bought Sedesmas than the unauthorized scrappers I got from the last Ebay seller I bought from!
At least Sedesmas are *authorized* and REAL (even though they're not my favorite pins either).

agnes!

 

[FigNewton]

I would rather have bought Sedesmas than the unauthorized scrappers I got from the last Ebay seller I bought from!
At least Sedesmas are *authorized* and REAL (even though they're not my favorite pins either).

agnes!

How do you know they were unauthorized scrappers? Most are exactly the same as the "legitimate" pins. Even legit pins have some variations in coloring throughout or between runs so it can be very difficult to tell. You'd have to be a real pin expert to be able to tell the difference.

I used to worry a lot about scrappers. But after several years I just gave up, because i was causing myself more grief than it was worth, in the end.

 

[agnes!]

How do you know they were unauthorized scrappers? Most are exactly the same as the "legitimate" pins. Even legit pins have some variations in coloring throughout or between runs so it can be very difficult to tell. You'd have to be a real pin expert to be able to tell the difference.

I used to worry a lot about scrappers. But after several years I just gave up, because i was causing myself more grief than it was worth, in the end.

I hear what you're saying, that you can drive yourself crazy trying to figure it out. Now, I can't *PROVE* these pins are scrappers, but IMO they are - and this is why...
*Because I've been collecting since 1999 and took a very close look at them when they arrived and they have all the earmarks of scrappers.
*strange colors - not just differences, completely wrong/odd tones
*areas filled in that *aren't* on the authentics - The authentics have cut-out or punched-out areas, on these scrappers these areas are filled in.
*Metal finishes(silver instead of golden, for instance) are wrong or 'off', edges aren't polished
*My neighbors ordered from the same seller & on first glance their pins looked fine, so I ordered from the same person, but before our pins arrived I started doing some research on PinPics. Many of my neighbor's pins were showing up *as* scrappers on PinPics.
*And when our 50-pin lot arrived, the pins were almost identical to the lot my neighbors got. What are the chances of that?
*There was a LE 250 pin in the lot from Disneyshopping/(maybe DisneyAuctions). The colors were ALL WRONG, there is no way that there could be such a color variation in such a small run.

agnes!