A Note to VMK Adults and CLs

deba

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This afternoon I had an interesting experience on VMK, and I'll take a few minutes to share it (it will make my feel better :flower: ). It started yesterday when I played a game in VMK_Annie's room, and I won! I really stink at games, so it was quite a miracle, to say the least. Trades were not working in her room yesterday, so she was telling each winner that she would catch up with them later to award the prize. I went away quite pleased with myself, to say the least! I was not on much for the rest of the day, but for the few minutes that I was on, I noticed that trade did not seem to be working anywhere. I did not see VMK_Annie anymore yesterday.

Let me just say here that I have fun on VMK, especially meeting with my kids and now my sister in this unique and very cute way. Several people that I love very much live outside my state, and so that doubles the fun...getting to 'see' each other. I have also enjoyed making some new friends, especially several other moms from here on the DIS board. But, I don't take the game quite as seriously as some. I have been known to give my 'things' away quite freely and make trades that were not in my best interest, just because something seemed so important to someone else. After all, these things, though fun, are really virtual, aren't they?

Well, I never heard met up with VMK_Annie, but when I signed on this afternoon, I noticed that she was running her game room again, so I got in line and played. Today I lost quickly (see, I told you I am terrible at games!), and I thought to mention yesterday's game to Annie then, but she was very busy, so I just quickly exited and then watched for her game to close down, thinking that I might catch a moment with her when she was through.

When I saw that she was no longer running the game and it was down graded to two Mickey-heads, I went back to her room and stood at the door. I politely introduced myself and told her that I had won her game on the previous day when trade was not working. But before Annie could answer, a community leader who had been in the room earlier but was now standing in the outside 'lobby' area of the room, replied. She said that prizes are always awarded at the end of each game. Then she (the CL) said that I should leave and stop trying to pull a fast one (or get away with something...or words to that affect). I was dumbfounded! I responded by saying that I was not trying to pull anything over on anyone, and that was a mean thing to say. VMK_Annie then responded that I had received my prize last night. I asked, 'I received it without a trade?', but I did not get an answer...was just told to clear the area (kids were still trying to get in the play the game).

When I got to my own room, I checked my chair, and sure enough, I did have a second toucan pin. It would have been quite a long time before I would have discovered this on my own. I did not know that staff could put something into your inventory without you being present for a trade, or even signed on. I had not received a message in my box, so this was news to me!

I've said all that to say that I am so glad that this happened to me instead of some child! I was accused of trying to scam staff by a CL! I know that many of the children (and probably some of the adults) are self centered and obnoxious, and can be very annoying. But that is not every child, and I refuse to believe that it is even the norm! Many are sweet and kind and are just trying to have fun and make friends. I know many children who would be in tears after such an exchange. This CL is an adult and she is a frequent poster here on the DIS.

I'm sorry this has become so long. I just wanted to be the voice of reason and to remind the CLs and all of the adults on VMK to have a little more patience with others, and not to be short or accusatory towards someone without reason. We can have a very positive influence on the children that we interact with in VMK, and I'd hope that we'd all want to be kind and put others first and set the example. That responsibility falls the fullest on those with a title in front of your name, because my children, and I know others as well, are taught to respect those in authority. Harsh works can hurt a child more than you would ever think, especially being falsely accused.

I have been a teacher for nearly thirty years, have five children, and am a Pastor's wife. I don't mean to have gotten on a soapbox, but this is a sensitive subject for me. I've worked with and loved thousands of children in my day (and some have been very rotten, I must say!), and I just felt that I needed to speak for them. They often are lonely and feel unloved...find one on VMK and be nice to him or her!

No flames, please! And yes, I leave tomorrow! :Pinkbounc :bounce: :Pinkbounc
 
I'm sorry this happened to you. I think it should've been up to VMK_Annie to answer you, and to explain that she had given you the prize already.
 
Seems like if they are able to put items in your inventory without a trade, then a message could also be sent stating the transaction had taken place....I would have done the same thing and never checked my inventory first! Who would know to do that? Well at least you did get your prize...that's good news!
 
Chickysmom said:
Seems like if they are able to put items in your inventory without a trade, then a message could also be sent stating the transaction had taken place....I would have done the same thing and never checked my inventory first! Who would know to do that? Well at least you did get your prize...that's good news!

I agree. I have about 200 pins in my inventory, and would not notice if one was added unless it was a pin that I don't have. If I were in deba's shoes, I would have thought the VMK_staff was pulling a fast one on me! A message should be sent when something is added to your inventory.

and deba... one option you have, if you feel strongly that the CL was acting inappropriately is to give feedback on the main VMK site. One of the contact us options is "I want to feedback on a Community Leader". I would hope that if you explained yourself, the person might receive some guidance.
 

Thanks for the good story! I totally agree with what you said. I personally have encountered this same kind of treatment by community leaders, they dont even seem to consider the fact that you could even be older than them! haha! But, I am glad that things did work out and you got your pin! Good for you by the way!
 
Deba, I agree with you. This situation was very confusing and it could have been cleared up so easily with a short message from staff when they put the item into your inventory. I have seen many CL_'s act like they run VMK to the point of being over bearing. Since VMK_Annie was in the room the CL should not have even answered you. This should have been left to VMK_Annie, in my opinion.

There are so many people that play this game and take it very seriously and are also impatient. It really bugs me when I am in a guest room and I see a constant "move", "move up" and such. Usually the guest is trying to move, but sometimes the rooms are not set up in a way that is easy to manuever. It just strikes me as being very impolite to not let the person have a chance to move before telling them to "go". I'm sure these are mainly kids. I have a feeling that when they learn to drive they will be honking at the person in front of them the nanosecond the light turns green.
 
That was me.

and actually, I meant it more to the other kid who chimed in with "me too!" than toward you. :) It just seemed a little fishy, you have to admit, that person saying "me too" right after you stated your story.

I'm sorry if I came across as harsh, I really am. I'm pretty sure I put a smile or a LOL after the pull something line, implying I was making light of my own statement.

Annie had asked me to sit in her room and "field questions" while she was running the game, so I jumped the bandwagon a little bit. THAT is why I answered right away and she had not responded yet. I was doing what she asked me to do.

Also, I didn't realize trade wasn't working last night. :) I knew there was a problem with buying stuff but not about trade.

Again, I'm very sorry if I came across as rude. I sincerely apologize. I had to leave soon after I said what I said due to some home issues and wasn't able to properly reply to you.

Looks like people are pretty honked off at me from what happened with you and they weren't even there! I've never been one to think I'm on the "high horse" being a CL. In fact, I don't even particularly like having the title.

Let me say again, I was only doing as Annie had asked-to respond to questions while she was in the room and doing the whole game thing. I had left when she said the game was over, came back at her request and jumped right back into answering questions.

I too am a teacher and am married, though I have no children. I've taught kindergarten through 12th grade, and while I haven't been teaching as long as you, I'd like to think I AM kind to children.

Now. Can we kiss and make up? :D
 
Alyce said:
This is only a virtural game...when it stops we will not be able to take the things we have collected away from the game... :confused3
Some people HAVE taken this game alittle to the edge...if we as adults act the way that that CL did, then what kind of example are we setting to the kids ?
I give pins away to newbies and do not allow them to trade anything back to me....most of the time I get a THANKS ! and I reply..."yw just be nice to the next person you meet..have fun!" OK! is usually the answer I get after that....makes you smile outside and in.... :goodvibes
Hummmm I think I will go take a bath with some of this soap from the soap box I am standing on... :blush:
Be nice and play nice... :cheer2:
Alyce :crazy:


I'm double posting because this was posted while I was writing the previous post.

I do this all the time too. :) I've given away everything from magic pins to princess dresses to new people, and even friends who don't have enough credits.

Please everybody, stop bashing me. You weren't there and didn't see the situation, nor did you know the context in which I said what I said.
 
Hi GBShorts. No harm done and no hard feelings. :goodvibes

GBShorts said:
Also, I didn't realize trade wasn't working last night. :) I knew there was a problem with buying stuff but not about trade.

That's just it...sometimes we don't know, and if we make a judgment without all of the facts, it can get us into trouble! (Lord knows I've been guilty of speaking before gathering all of the facts many times!) Maybe we just all needed a reminder that on the other end of that cute little virtual person is a real person, maybe still little, with real feelings. And maybe, things are not as they seem at first glance.

:love: to you, GBShorts. (That's the closest that I could find to a kiss!) We are 'made-up'! :goodvibes
 
deba said:
Hi GBShorts. No harm done and no hard feelings. :goodvibes



That's just it...sometimes we don't know, and if we make a judgement without all of the facts, it can get us into trouble! (Lord knows I've been guilty of speaking before gathering all of the facts many times!) Maybe we just all needed a reminder that on the other end of that cute little virtual person is a real person, maybe still little, with real feelings. And maybe, things are not as they seem at first glance.

:love: to you, GBShorts. (That's the closest that I could find to a kiss!) We are 'made-up'! :goodvibes


How right you are. :) Slow down, shorts, slow down! LOL

BTW, have a GREAT time on your trip, we expect a full report upon your return!
 
And Now,another day saved thanks to vmk peace keepers.lol
 
GBShorts said:
That was me.

and actually, I meant it more to the other kid who chimed in with "me too!" than toward you. :) It just seemed a little fishy, you have to admit, that person saying "me too" right after you stated your story.

I'm sorry if I came across as harsh, I really am. I'm pretty sure I put a smile or a LOL after the pull something line, implying I was making light of my own statement.

Annie had asked me to sit in her room and "field questions" while she was running the game, so I jumped the bandwagon a little bit. THAT is why I answered right away and she had not responded yet. I was doing what she asked me to do.

Also, I didn't realize trade wasn't working last night. :) I knew there was a problem with buying stuff but not about trade.

I appreciate your explanation, Shorts, but if you look at the original post, no one called you by name, and I'm sure Deba took note of the CL_'s name. So, we are not bashing you in particular, just expressing concern about overzealous CL's.

I still think that in a situation like this instead of being caustic to a player, perhaps you could have erred on the side of caution and actually asked VMK_Annie about it.
 
Califgirl said:
I appreciate your explanation, Shorts, but if you look at the original post, no one called you by name, and I'm sure Deba took note of the CL_'s name. So, we are not bashing you in particular, just expressing concern about overzealous CL's.

I still think that in a situation like this instead of being caustic to a player, perhaps you could have erred on the side of caution and actually asked VMK_Annie about it.


I realize that she didn't mention me by name but many of those who posted to this are my friends and know I'm not really like that, therefore ...

oh. nevermind. it's not worth it. You weren't there, you didn't see what took place so it would take too long to explain. :earboy2:

And just FYI, Annie did take care of the situation.

Thanks for your input.
 
I am so glad this story has a happy ending!! :grouphug:

And Deba, I know you're on your way to WDW right now (!!!), but you are SO like me!! I tend to do VERY BAD trades or just give my stuff away, but I don't care. I love giving stuff to other people! Maybe you and I ought to trade with each other!! :) LOL!
 
If I would have seen you in someone's room, after the game you won,
I would have suggested "checking the chair", because I've had a staff
member surprise me with a pin gift without initiating a trade box.

But, at least now you have a PSA here for those who didn't know that
staff could do that. :)
 












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