75 Point Direct Purchase Minimum in 2 UYs

[Bruin_mouse]

Last month DVC announced that:

"Effective February 25, 2018, to obtain a Disney Vacation Club Membership Card, Members must accumulate a total of at least 75 Vacation Points purchased directly from DVD (My emphasis)."

I asked my guide whether the above referenced "Members" could include someone that accumulated 75 total direct points from DVD in contracts with two different use years.

In the only place I found on the DVC website that defines "Members" it says that:

A Purchaser or Additional Purchaser is a person who is named on the deed of the real estate interest. Purchasers are also referred to as Disney Vacation Club Members. (My emphasis)

(https://disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/faq/member-types/rights-privileges/)

My interpretation is that because I will be named on the deed, by definition I am the "purchaser" of both a June UY contract and a September UY contract (and therefore the owning "member"), my interpretation is that as a "Member" I should be able to buy ("accumulate") 75 direct points between the two contracts (e.g. 25 in September UY and 50 in June UY) to qualify for Member Extras.

My guide said he asked member services and was told no. All 75 points have to be under one membership number. Given DVC's own definition of "member" I do not think this is correct. I just sent an e-mail to Member Administration to ask the question but was curious whether any folks on here that are long time DVCers have any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

 

[disneynutz]

Doesn't matter what we think, Disney can do what they want and often even they don't know what their own policies are.



Bill

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I'd think it would need to be under one member number just for ease of database management. Disney IT is not good at exception cases.

 

[tjkraz]

Administratively, a single user ID must have 75 points in order to receive an ID card and qualify for the perks. I think you're fighting an uphill battle here. And even if you were to get someone to agree that this configuration would qualify, you face years of struggles against systems which are designed to track eligibility by member number.

 

[Bruin_mouse]

I suspect you all are right, but I figured no harm in asking. I wouldn't mind buying 75 addon points except that I need the add on for an Aulani subsidized contract. Because of the high MFs I'd like to keep my number of unsubsidized points to a minimum.

Incidentally I asked about the rumored VGC waitlist. Apparently it does exist for "extenuating circumstances," whatever that is. My guide looked into it and apparently I don't qualify. I thought about asking why, but to paraphrase Bill it doesn't really matter.

 

[Bruin_mouse]

Update: As predicted I got a call back from Member Services who said that Member Administration said the 75 points have to be under one contract. That seems more narrow than under one membership number but I didn't bother returning the call. Another reason to buy resale.

 

[ScubaCat]

Update: As predicted I got a call back from Member Services who said that Member Administration said the 75 points have to be under one contract. That seems more narrow than under one membership number but I didn't bother returning the call. Another reason to buy resale.

It's definitely under one member ID number. Having done plenty of coding and DBA work in my younger years, I can tell you that spreading it across multiple memberships would be extremely difficult to manage, and would be nearly impossible from the standpoint of backing it out in the future. For instance, suppose you own 25 direct under one member # and 50 direct on another. Which one gets the perks? And if you sell one, how do they then remember to remove the exception from the other? When you have 250K+ member numbers, there's almost no reasonable way to manage them individually.

 

[Dean]

Last month DVC announced that:

"Effective February 25, 2018, to obtain a Disney Vacation Club Membership Card, Members must accumulate a total of at least 75 Vacation Points purchased directly from DVD (My emphasis)."

I asked my guide whether the above referenced "Members" could include someone that accumulated 75 total direct points from DVD in contracts with two different use years.

In the only place I found on the DVC website that defines "Members" it says that:

A Purchaser or Additional Purchaser is a person who is named on the deed of the real estate interest. Purchasers are also referred to as Disney Vacation Club Members. (My emphasis)

(https://disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/faq/member-types/rights-privileges/)

My interpretation is that because I will be named on the deed, by definition I am the "purchaser" of both a June UY contract and a September UY contract (and therefore the owning "member"), my interpretation is that as a "Member" I should be able to buy ("accumulate") 75 direct points between the two contracts (e.g. 25 in September UY and 50 in June UY) to qualify for Member Extras.

My guide said he asked member services and was told no. All 75 points have to be under one membership number. Given DVC's own definition of "member" I do not think this is correct. I just sent an e-mail to Member Administration to ask the question but was curious whether any folks on here that are long time DVCers have any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

Since these are separate master contracts, they are treated as 2 different members.

 

[LAX]

I suspect you all are right, but I figured no harm in asking. I wouldn't mind buying 75 addon points except that I need the add on for an Aulani subsidized contract. Because of the high MFs I'd like to keep my number of unsubsidized points to a minimum.

Incidentally I asked about the rumored VGC waitlist. Apparently it does exist for "extenuating circumstances," whatever that is. My guide looked into it and apparently I don't qualify. I thought about asking why, but to paraphrase Bill it doesn't really matter.

As long as you keep the same UY, you don't even need to add on the 75 points at AUL. From what I have read, having contracts in different UYs is not fun anyway.

LAX

 

[crisi]

I didn't think Disney would sell you two different UY direct? If that's the case, about the only way to end up in this position is if you were added to a direct deed - say you fell in love with another DVC owner and you added each other to your contracts.

 

[Bruin_mouse]

That's a great thought @crisi! I wish I had thought of that idea before I had spent all this money buying resale contracts over the past few months. Maybe the board admins should look into starting DVCsingles.com as a new business.

I was trying to leave out the details to keep this post from getting needlessly even more complicated. I wanted to keep my UYs the same but then a subsidized Aulani contract with the perfect amount of points popped up in a different UY (but one I could live with). I'm (hopefully) closing on it soon.

For the probably two other people on here that care, I called Member Administration to confirm that all 75 points must be in the same contract. They said yes. I know my original scenario was arguable whether that would qualify for direct perks, but I think their decree that all 75 points must be in the same contract is just plain wrong. The use of the term "accumulate" in the original announcement by definition indicates that you do not need to buy all 75 points at once. But like Bill suggests, you can't fight city hall, or DVC.

 

[Dean]

I didn't think Disney would sell you two different UY direct? If that's the case, about the only way to end up in this position is if you were added to a direct deed - say you fell in love with another DVC owner and you added each other to your contracts.

They will sell them, just just won't count them as one master. It's like 2 separate members.

 

[Bing Showei]

They will sell them, just just won't count them as one master. It's like 2 separate members.

This, and the minimum buy-in for each would be whatever the prevailing minimum buy-in is for a new member at that resort (assuming you don’t already have a membership for that UY).